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| 10:55 | <pbrown> Hey all - been a while since I booted any ltsp clients on my Ubuntu 12.04 ltsp-pnp install, and now I seem to have some odd problems -- I get a blinking cursor, some timeout errors, an nbd0 error, etc... Tips??
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| 11:00 | <FrozenZia> I seem to get exactly the same errors that John Hupp reports here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2013-November/273262.html
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| 11:02 | BTW it's been a while also since I've tried to rebuild my ltsp image.
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| 19:56 | <gbaman> hey vagrantc, a weird one, got an LTSP server that is reporting "no response from server, restarting" in LDM, yet can ssh the server from the shell on the client..
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| 20:00 | ignore that, updated ssh keys :)
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| 21:00 | <gbaman> vagrantc: I want to mount a samba share on boot, normally would just put it in fstab, but assuming LTSP ignores /etc/fstab?
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| 21:07 | <vagrantc> gbaman: man lts.conf
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| 21:07 | gbaman: look for FSTAB
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| 21:12 | <gbaman> vagrantc: "No manual entry for lts.conf" :D Grabbing ltsp-docs
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| 21:12 | ahh
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| 21:12 | <vagrantc> gbaman: good!
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| 21:15 | <gbaman> vagrantc: is there a way to get the server IP?
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| 21:15 | at that stage?
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| 21:16 | <vagrantc> is it the same as your LTSP server?
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| 21:16 | <gbaman> yes
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| 21:16 | <vagrantc> then, for better or worse, you can use "server"
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| 21:16 | <gbaman> sorry, that is what I meant, get the LTSP server IP
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| 21:17 | assuming then would be FSTAB_0="//$server/School-Share ?
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| 21:17 | <vagrantc> no variable name, just "server"
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| 21:17 | presuming your FSTAB_0="//server/School-Share"
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| 21:17 | but that doesn't look like a valid fstab entry
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| 21:17 | <gbaman> well, had more to it
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| 21:18 | FSTAB_0="//server/School-Share /media/school-share cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
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| 21:18 | whoops
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| 21:18 | <vagrantc> in theory ... it hard-codes the ip address for your ltsp server in /etc/hosts as "server".
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| 21:18 | <gbaman> it apparently didn't like that and kernel panicked
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| 21:18 | found issue
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| 21:22 | worked, awesome
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| 21:27 | vagrantc: where would be a proper place to put a public folder like that? Is guest read only. Assuming not in /home/admin/public
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| 21:32 | <vagrantc> could drop it in /srv
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| 21:33 | <gbaman> hmm
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| 21:34 | I am trying to figure out the best way to do this
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| 21:34 | a teacher shared folder
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| 21:34 | teachers can add, students cant
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| 21:34 | both can read
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| 21:34 | with as little user input as possible
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| 21:35 | <vagrantc> there's maybe 40 years of best practices on the subject, so surely you'll find something :)
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| 21:36 | <SpComb> iirc a cifs mount like that won't actually implement any unix access permissions over to the server
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| 21:36 | you'd need a separate cifs mount per login account
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| 21:37 | <gbaman> am using the guest account for the students SpComb
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| 21:37 | * vagrantc vaugely recalls a "guest" account that was read-only and a separate account for all writeable users | |
| 21:38 | <gbaman> haven't looked into the teacher write access bit yet :)
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| 21:38 | kind of assumed it wouldn't be too difficult
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| 21:41 | that normally comes back and bites me though
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| 21:43 | <SpComb> depends on how fancy you want to make it
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| 21:44 | mut afaict mount.cifs will connect to the server as the user given at mount time
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| 21:44 | <gbaman> it has to be very simple for the end user
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| 21:44 | <SpComb> the local user accessing the cifs mount plays no role from the view of the cifs server
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| 21:45 | <gbaman> which is fine for the students, not so fine for the teachers
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| 21:46 | <SpComb> you could have two separate mounts or somesuch hackery
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| 21:46 | or use the file manager gui mounts
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| 21:46 | what cifs server?
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| 21:46 | <gbaman> whatever apt-get install samba installs :)
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| 21:49 | <SpComb> samba on the ltsp server?
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| 21:49 | <gbaman> yes
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| 21:49 | <SpComb> use the sshfs magic
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| 21:49 | if you have fat clients
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| 21:49 | <gbaman> was thinking that
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| 21:49 | but would be nice to have access from other machines on the network
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| 21:50 | seeing as windows and mac machines quite happily pick it up
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| 21:50 | <SpComb> well, they need to login separately with the ltsp server login account into samba then
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| 21:51 | <gbaman> can't you sync Linux and samba accounts + passwords?
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> it can be done. some have been driven mad trying.
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| 21:52 | some just get lucky. others know what they're doing.
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| 21:52 | <gbaman> have already been driving mad quite a few times writing this software :D
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| 21:54 | <vagrantc> so you should be a quick study, then :)
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| 21:54 | <gbaman> haha
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| 21:56 | am going to sleep on it, was up at stupid o'clock this morning out doing sunrise photography. Will take another stab at it tomorrow
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| 21:56 | thanks vagrantc and SpComb for the help
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| 21:56 | oh and vagrantc, got yourself a B+ yet?
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| 21:57 | <vagrantc> no, mainly focusing on armv7 hardware
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| 21:57 | <gbaman> is nice with its switching power supply and 4 usb ports
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> yeah, the PSU seems like the nicest feature, and 4 usb ain't bad either
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| 21:58 | <gbaman> finally had to update all my stuff to the 3.12 kernel from 3.10
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> the only one i've tested with so far is the older model B with 256MB of ram.
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| 21:59 | <gbaman> seeing as the old 3.10 kernels didn't have support for its new USB chip
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| 21:59 | a lot has changed since then vagrantc :)
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| 21:59 | <vagrantc> it's still armv6
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| 21:59 | <gbaman> should go pick yourself a new b+ up, only $35!
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| 21:59 | uck shs :)
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| 21:59 | * vagrantc accepts donations | |
| 22:00 | <gbaman> will be staying that way apparently till 2017
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| 22:00 | by sticking with the armv6, can maintain the same software stack
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| 22:00 | unlike everyone else there who happily just hops to the next version all the time, breaking old software
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| 22:00 | * vagrantc boos and hisses | |
| 22:01 | <gbaman> is true though
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| 22:01 | <vagrantc> armv7 has been mainstream long before the rpi existed
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| 22:01 | <gbaman> perhaps
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| 22:01 | <vagrantc> so it's hardly jumping to the new versions all the time
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| 22:01 | armv8 on the other hand...
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| 22:02 | <gbaman> the pi processor I will admit was old before the pi was even released :)
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| 22:02 | <vagrantc> and armv7 is backwards compatible ... they could keep using the same software stack.
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| 22:02 | <gbaman> does leave the platform split though
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| 22:02 | <vagrantc> but anyways... there are plenty of other nice boards i'd rather focus on
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| 22:03 | <gbaman> :)
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| 22:03 | * vagrantc ought to write a post about all the recent tinkerings | |
| 22:03 | * gbaman agrees he should | |
| 22:05 | <gbaman> I also have way too many blog posts I really should have written..
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| 22:06 | <vagrantc> gbaman: watch out for that sunrise, it'll sneak up on you!
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| 22:07 | <gbaman> but Raspi-LTSP does now have a website :) http://gbaman.github.io/RaspberryPi-LTSP/
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| 22:07 | already done my sunrise photos, was cloudy sadly
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| 22:07 | didn't come out too bad though https://plus.google.com/photos/114170134574629840394/albums/6036598837772492273/6036728381671221250?pid=6036728381671221250&oid=114170134574629840394
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| 22:08 | it was taken with a Raspberry Pi camera module
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| 22:08 | on a robot
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| 22:08 | for a competition
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| 22:08 | <vagrantc> so you could've slept in after all!
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| 22:09 | <gbaman> well no, can't tomorrow morning, got an IT suite booked down at a local enterprise centre for testing Raspi-LTSP :)
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| 22:09 | got it for the day, a room of DVI-D monitors and they have DVI-HDMI cables :)
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| 22:09 | so getting a pile of pis together and stress testing it
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| 22:10 | but yeah, did the photos this morning, not tomorrow morning
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| 22:10 | is 112 photographs! normally is only about 60 but this is 2 sets overlaid to fill in some weird blanks
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| 22:11 | so given I was up at 3:30am to head out and do that, should really hit the sack
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| 22:12 | (is impossible to get it without stacks of tourists any other time of the day)
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| 22:12 | thanks for the help, I will be back am sure!
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