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Channel log from 5 August 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:45 | <bennabiy> alkisg: is there a convenient way to simply add to each thin client xhost +server
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| 03:38 | I tried RCFILE but it did not seem to run it (xhost gave no display error)
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| 06:19 | <alkisg> bennabiy: how will that help, if xlib chokes while reading .Xauthority?
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| 06:20 | You would need to do it after each time xorg launches, not while the system boots in rcfile
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| 06:20 | grep -r xauth /usr/share/ltsp ==> find the place there
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| 06:20 | But I don't think it will help, unless you remove all ip-based cookies as well
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| 08:16 | <julienfayad> Hi there, anyone with a lead on how to fix the pulseaudio issue
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> julienfayad: do you have SOUND=false in lts.conf?
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| 08:17 | <julienfayad> alkisg nop I don’t it’s the default configuration
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> Then for fat clients it's the default for pulse as well
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| 08:17 | I.e. it's started the same way as in live CDs
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| 08:18 | <julienfayad> well my guess is that pulse isn’t able to create the .config/pulse folder inside the user’s home folder
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| 08:18 | that’s why it’s not able to start
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> Are you using the default sshfs configuration?
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| 08:18 | <julienfayad> so it might be an issue of the user pulse is starting as
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> It's starting as the current user, the one that logged in
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| 08:18 | <julienfayad> well I haven’t edited these neither
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| 08:18 | so it should be
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> Try with a newly created user, with an empty home dir
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| 08:19 | See if .pulse was created after login, or not
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| 08:19 | I meant .config/pulse
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| 08:20 | Does this happen to all clients, or just to a few of them?
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| 08:20 | <julienfayad> let me test
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| 08:29 | ok on all clients it’s the same issue (pulse isn’t started)
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| 08:29 | event with a new user
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| 08:29 | now I'
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| 08:29 | I’m wondering if actually the problem might come from a wrong user ID mapping
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| 08:30 | how can I know which user (with its ID) is pulse trying to start as ?
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| 08:30 | <alkisg> pulse is started as a normal program on login
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| 08:30 | It's not started as a system daemon
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| 08:30 | So it runs as the user that logs in
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| 08:31 | <julienfayad> hmmm well there is something wrong then, because as the regular user I can create the .config/pulse folder inside it’s home directory
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| 08:31 | (a simple mkdir in the terminal works)
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| 08:31 | <alkisg> And how do you know that pulse can't create it?
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| 08:31 | Or e.g. that the problem isn't elsewhere, like, not able to find the sound card at all?
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| 08:31 | <julienfayad> because that’s the error message it’s returning when I try to run pulseaudio -vvv
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| 08:32 | well not finding the soundcard is highly unprobable because if I configure an app (say VLC) to use a specific sound output device, I get the sound out. My problem is with configuring a sound device globally
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| 08:36 | <alkisg> julienfayad: do you have root access to the client, e.g. with epoptes?
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| 08:36 | <julienfayad> yes I do
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| 08:37 | <alkisg> !vnc-dide
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| 08:37 | <ltsp> vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
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| 08:38 | <julienfayad> you want me to run this on one client ?
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| 08:38 | <alkisg> On the server, so that I can then use epoptes to gain root on one client
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| 08:38 | <julienfayad> well can’t I just put the host in the remote-assistance seciont (method Graphics VNC) ?
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| 08:39 | <julienfayad> I guess it worked
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| 08:39 | <alkisg> Yes, but not everyone has epoptes
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| 08:39 | That's why I tell them the cmdline version
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| 08:39 | <julienfayad> I see
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| 08:40 | <alkisg> Which client/user can I test with?
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| 08:40 | <julienfayad> epoptes rocks, everybody should have it
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| 08:40 | go ahead with Intel NUC i5 #1 (Roger Honein)
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| 08:44 | haven’t though of this hack with the HOME alkisg, nice
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| 08:44 | <alkisg> julienfayad: what are you using, ldap?
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| 08:44 | <julienfayad> for user authentication ? it’s freeipa and I think yes ldap under the hood
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| 08:45 | <alkisg> It seems like pulse is having issues with sshfs and long user ids
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| 08:45 | ...or something related
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| 08:47 | <julienfayad> you think the problem is with long user ids or with the discrepency with the first and second id (on the fat client first id was long second was short when you ran the getent passwd command) ?
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| 08:47 | wait you made a typo mistake
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| 08:47 | <alkisg> where?
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| 08:47 | <julienfayad> you named the file pulseaudi.real but in the bash script you called pulsaudio.real (with an o)
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| 08:48 | <alkisg> ok, can you tell the user to logout/login again, and see if sound works?
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| 08:48 | <julienfayad> sure
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| 08:49 | done
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| 08:49 | <alkisg> Is it working?
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| 08:49 | <julienfayad> testing
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| 08:51 | it does work yes
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| 08:52 | issue with the gid ?
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> Possibly
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| 08:54 | <julienfayad> what did you actually do to make it work ? instructed pulse to use tmp/home instead of the regular home directory ?
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| 08:59 | <alkisg> yes
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| 08:59 | julienfayad: tell me another user name that belongs in ldap
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| 08:59 | <julienfayad> j.sayegh
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| 09:01 | <alkisg> julienfayad: I think the problem is that the client inherits the server settings for freeipa, possibly due to ltsp-pnp, and then X01-localapps or some other tool like useradd chokes somewhere and ends up with a new group id instead of the correct one
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| 09:01 | Unfortunately X01-localapps wasn't tested extensively with ldap
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| 09:01 | So file a bug report about it in ltsp, and maybe someone will have time to troubleshoot it...
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| 09:02 | Unfortunately I'm no longer funded to work on ltsp, so I only do high priority fixes or paid tasks
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| 09:03 | <julienfayad> I see, and in the meantime do you think I can replicate your workaround of having pulseaudio use a tmp folder like through an rc script ?
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| 09:03 | <alkisg> I don't know the side effects of this workaround, and of where else that gid problem may choke
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| 09:04 | If you're going to put a workaround, put one to fix the gid, not pulse
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| 09:04 | <julienfayad> I see, the thing is I would like people to use sound asap and in the meantime work on a proper solution.
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| 09:04 | what would you suggest as a workaround to fix the gid ?
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| 09:05 | (and are we sure this is the ultimate issue with pulse ?)
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| 15:03 | <alkisg> !ltsp-bug | echo julienfayad:
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| 15:03 | <ltsp> julienfayad: ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> Mention that X01-localapps has issues when using ldap on the client, e.g. with freeipa and ltsp-pnp
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| 15:04 | <julienfayad> sure!
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| 15:36 | alkisg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1610304 let me know if that’s good to go
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> julienfayad: it's fine, I replied with the patch that you already have, so when you see that it works for you, e.g. in a week, reply there and I'll commit it upstream
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| 16:09 | <julienfayad> deal alkisg
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| 16:09 | thanks
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| 16:09 | alkisg++
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| 19:37 | <bennabiy> alkisg: thank you... I am trying to find a solution until a fix can be made.
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| 19:38 | alkisg: if there is a way to have a login script which runs at each log in, it would fix it temporarily
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