IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 November 2006 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:14 | <T-1000> good morning :)
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| 08:02 | <Shane-S> morning all, is there a way (I am using k12ltsp) to set the server to allow a 32Mb ram system load the GUI. I have to increase the TC ram to 64 for it to load the Gnome GUI of Fedora
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| 08:19 | <McPolo> I finally got usb-sticks working (ltsp 4.2), but cdrom isn't working. =)
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| 08:19 | Manually I can mount it from shell (on thin clients), but it doesn't appear in /etc/fstab at all. floppy & usb is there.
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| 08:47 | <psycodad> hi, i just tried to find a good scanner supported by sane for my ltsp env: None of the ones i have (scanjet 3770 and 3800) are supported, looked with our supplier: none of the ones the sell is supported from sane... does anybody have any recommendation on a good from sane supported scanner that is still on sale somewhere ?
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| 08:52 | <McPolo> Ok, my problem solved. I had in lts.conf line MODULE_01=ide_generic, because previously id seemed that thin clients do not even load any ide-drivers. But i commented it out and now it works. :)
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| 09:07 | <jammcq> cliebow: ping
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| 09:10 | <Shane-S> anyone using a lstp server that then hands off to a windows enviroment?
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| 09:46 | <jammcq> laprag: hey
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| 09:48 | <laprag> hey there. All well at google?
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| 09:48 | <jammcq> yeah, well.... still at the hotel
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| 09:48 | <laprag> ah. when do you start the ubuntu conference?
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| 09:49 | <jammcq> yesterday
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| 09:49 | we'll be heading over to google hq in a few minutes
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| 09:49 | <laprag> i keep forgetting the time zones
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| 09:49 | its early for you
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| 09:49 | <jammcq> 7:48am
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| 09:49 | not too early
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| 09:50 | all showered and shaved, just gotta peel myself away from the keyboard so we can go
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| 09:50 | <laprag> well have fun :)
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| 09:50 | clean people have more fun ;)
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| 09:50 | talk to you later
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| 09:51 | <jammcq> ciao
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| 12:04 | <telenieko> Hi all, on the debian ltsp packages how can I support local apps? (or mainly, local session)
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| 12:48 | <g333k_work> Hello, I have read the wiki's manual, but I'm still cant execute firefox locally in my clients, can somebody help me to do that?
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| 12:48 | btw I'm using Ubuntu + LTSP 4.2
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| 12:56 | <g333k_work> no clues?
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| 13:03 | <McPolo> g333k_work: Perhaps not so trivial task :)
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| 13:04 | <g333k_work> McPolo, it hard to do that?
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| 13:05 | <McPolo> g333k_work: I have no clue. Just looked at the wiki-page.
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| 13:06 | Why need to run firefox locally?
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| 13:08 | we tried googlevideo and some random movie .avi in thin clients. Sound and video does not sync very good, and .avi does pause a little once in a while.
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| 13:08 | <McPolo> But ofcourse, that's not main priority when using ltsp system.
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| 13:09 | <prpplague> McPolo: googlevideo use adobe flash player?
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| 13:10 | <McPolo> prpplague: yep, something like that.
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| 13:10 | <prpplague> McPolo: there is a known bug with flash7 and linux that causes the audio to be out of sync with the video
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| 13:10 | <McPolo> Sound needs some tweaking but those things are documented nicely in wiki.
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| 13:10 | <prpplague> McPolo: there is a new flash9beta for linux
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| 13:10 | McPolo: that addresses the issue
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| 13:11 | <McPolo> We didn't have time to play with it, because this ltsp isn't coming for real production.
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| 13:11 | But perhaps it would be nice to see, so that we don't include totally wrong information into our report.
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| 13:11 | <prpplague> McPolo: well, it affects all liinux clients not just ltsp, just a note
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| 13:12 | <McPolo> I know. :)
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| 13:15 | <hrc> McPolo: I'm still having that blank desktop issue
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| 13:15 | <McPolo> hrc: =)
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| 13:15 | hrc: I thought your firewall was solution.
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| 13:16 | <hrc> McPolo: Yeah, me too. This is a real pain in the butt. It's driving me crazy.
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| 13:16 | <McPolo> hrc: Why you need full desktop into windows?
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| 13:16 | hrc: Isn't some apps enough?
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| 13:17 | <hrc> I want to be able to work with the box full GUI style just like I was at console, from any of my other computers, be they linux or WIndows
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| 13:17 | <McPolo> Ok.
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| 13:17 | Why not try cygwin?
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| 13:17 | <hrc> McPolo: Same results
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| 13:17 | <McPolo> HEh.
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| 13:18 | <hrc> McPolo: My goal is to take 2 Ubuntu boxes and make them app servers, so I can connect to them from any old desktop and use a full, rich GUI. Then I will cluster them for high availability.
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| 13:18 | <McPolo> hrc: Then I don't know anything else but run network scanner like ethereal and see what's going on.
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| 13:19 | <McPolo> hrc: If your gdm is configured right (there isn't much to do in xdcmp-section though, so probably it is ok in any case)
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| 13:20 | <hrc> McPolo: Here's the kicker, once in a great while, the full desktop displays
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| 13:23 | <hrc> Ethereal doesn't seem to wanna work so that's out
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| 13:28 | <McPolo> hrc: You need to run ethereal with sudo.
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| 13:29 | <hrc> McPolo: Ethereal on WIn
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| 14:06 | <cliebow> Scottie!!!!!!!!!!
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| 14:29 | <sbalneav> Hello cliebow
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| 14:35 | <g333k_work> Hello I followed this manual to run opera locally: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/LocalAppOpera, I have success in all the steps, now my client has booted, but how do I start Opera?
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| 14:38 | <g333k_work> any clue?
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| 14:44 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: That wasn't written by anyone at ltsp, but rather a Udo Puetz
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| 14:44 | <cliebow> jammcq:!!!
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| 14:44 | <sbalneav> You might try contacting him by email.
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| 14:45 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, Have you ever done something like that? running a web browser locally?
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| 14:46 | <sbalneav> No, I never want to run them locally.
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| 14:46 | I'd much rather run them on the server.
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| 14:46 | That way I can kill them if they hang up.
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| 14:47 | <McPolo> Ofcourse if clients are powerful, there's some reason to run them locally.
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| 14:48 | <sbalneav> IMHO, no, but that's just me. :)
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| 14:48 | <g333k_work> sbalneav, Is there much difference running firefox on the server or locally, I mean about the memory that takes from the server and the speed that reduces to the server
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| 14:49 | <sbalneav> g333k_work: I have servers that have 40 people running firefox at the same time. So long as you're not running flash, they'll be fine.
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| 14:50 | We will be working on local apps this week.
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| 14:50 | So it should be better in ltsp5
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| 14:50 | <cliebow> i also have 30 40
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| 14:50 | <cliebow> you guys at lunch? they let you do that?
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| 14:51 | <sbalneav> It isn't time for lunch yet.
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| 14:51 | <McPolo> It's soon midnight here.
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| 14:51 | <cliebow> getting rumbly in your tumbly 8~)
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| 14:52 | <McPolo> How does it handle firefox bookmarks etc. if they run locally?
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| 14:52 | <sbalneav> You'd have to have your home mounted somehow.
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| 14:52 | <McPolo> Oh, that was the way, right.
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| 14:53 | <sbalneav> Plus, the workstation needs to have some idea of "who" you are.
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| 14:53 | <McPolo> Now i understand why home directories were shared via nfs.
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| 14:53 | <sbalneav> In the past, it's been by NIS
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| 14:53 | <sbalneav> In the future it would be via LDAP.
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| 14:53 | <McPolo> Well isn't all user accounts in LDAP in large system in any case?
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| 14:54 | <sbalneav> Sometimes.
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| 14:54 | Lunch
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| 14:58 | <g333k_work> Where can I find info about the use of resources of running firefox locally or on the server?
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| 15:07 | <rstory> i'm running ltsp 4.2, and am having a screensaver issue.. i set the kde screensaver to start after 1 min, and it does, but about a minute later, something else kicks in and the screen goes blank.. how can I let the kde screensave continue to run?
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| 15:08 | <McPolo> rstory: power savings go on?
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| 15:08 | turn on
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| 15:13 | <rstory> no, the monitor light stays green... it goes yellow for power savings mode..
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| 15:15 | <rstory> also, i tried adding 'X_DPMS_STANDBYTIME = 5' in lts.conf (before there were no DPMS entries), but the behavior is the same either way...
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| 15:29 | <Gadi> rstory: what happens if you open a terminal window in that session and run: xset s off
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| 15:30 | or better yet, before you do that do: xset q
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| 15:30 | and see how screensaver is set
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| 15:37 | <rstory> ding ding ding!! we have a winner!
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| 15:38 | Gadi: it was set to 70 seconds..and is now off.. thanks!
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| 15:38 | <Gadi> my pleasure
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| 16:35 | <sawback> Hi folks, I'm having "trouble with sound". I've got a basic K12LTSP 5.0 setup, a PIII machine with an Ensoniq AudioPCI card, and I've been dealing with some folks on the k12ltsp list who finally referred me here.
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| 17:59 | <efra> The lost ones are back
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| 17:59 | ChanServ: I missed you a lot
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| 18:12 | <jammcq> hey homies
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