IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 13 September 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 23:23 | <DRoberts> Hello everyone:)
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| 23:24 | <razielle_tzu> hi
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| 23:25 | <DRoberts> For a small business, which distro would be the best for a ltsp headless rollout?
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| 23:26 | a community partnership is looking at ltsp, but it needs to be easy to update/run google chrome and handle youtube etc with donated computers for the thin clients.
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| 23:30 | <razielle_tzu> i use ubuntu as the base for a charity run computer club that is now using thin clients for terminals, although most people bring in their own computers
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| 23:32 | <DRoberts> I have always used ubuntu but since around 8ish when they changed from gnome 2 to unity everything seems to break during upgrades
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| 23:32 | have you had that issue?
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| 23:33 | <razielle_tzu> i haven't had anything break yet, i'll find out on friday if anything has broken
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| 23:33 | <DRoberts> the other issue i have had is the documentation seems all over the place
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| 23:33 | and i have had a hard time finding documentation about how to set up a ltsp server that is headless with 2 nics
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| 23:34 | <razielle_tzu> my server has 2, possibly 3 NICs but i'm only able to make use of one due to where it is
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| 23:34 | <DRoberts> and allowing normal pcs to connect to 2nd nic switch and have the server run as a filter for nsfw stuff for the network.
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| 23:35 | what i wanted to help them set up was isp > router > server nic 1 > server nic 2 filter/dhcp > switch > clients/allnetwork stuff
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| 23:35 | <razielle_tzu> i wish i knew which set up/bot commands would help you but i'm pretty new to the channel and ltsp in general
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| 23:36 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 23:36 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 23:36 | <razielle_tzu> this might be of use though
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| 23:36 | <DRoberts> I am just glad to get a nice conversation for a change:) i always tend to seem to get peeps in irc that just complain at me for some noobie mistake instead of trying to help. i just guess i am unlucky.
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| 23:37 | <razielle_tzu> :)
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| 23:37 | we all get unlucky sometimes
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| 23:37 | <DRoberts> I saw the pnp stuff, but i read as far as "uses one nic"
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| 23:37 | and basically looks like router acts as the dhcp server etc
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| 23:38 | which means issues setting up some kind of filter.
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| 23:38 | <razielle_tzu> yeah, for most users that is what is most beneficial it would seem
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| 23:38 | <DRoberts> other thing is, does it work headless?
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| 23:38 | <razielle_tzu> i ssh into my server rather than logging in with a monitor and keyboard directly so i would assume so
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| 23:38 | <DRoberts> the one other thing i found a issue with ubuntu was, they keep changing things and don't stick to the "if its not broken don't fix it" thing.
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| 23:39 | <razielle_tzu> i didn't use the guides from ubuntultsp though
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| 23:39 | <DRoberts> have you heard of webmin?
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| 23:39 | its rather handy, check it out if u have not:)
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| 23:39 | <razielle_tzu> sure, i used that during my last installation of ubuntu server
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| 23:39 | i prefer the command line though :)
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| 23:39 | <DRoberts> yea, i just find handy
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| 23:40 | easier sometimes to copy/paste
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| 23:40 | <razielle_tzu> it is for a variety of things
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| 23:40 | <DRoberts> and having a visual file manager is helpful
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| 23:40 | <razielle_tzu> you can attach an ssh session to most file managers on linx now
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| 23:40 | <DRoberts> this might be helpful to you also sometime: https://vestacp.com/
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| 23:40 | saved me a lot of time
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| 23:40 | <razielle_tzu> cool
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| 23:41 | <DRoberts> :p just trying to repay the helpfulness with something that may be of use:p
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| 23:42 | <razielle_tzu> thanks, i'll take a proper look at it in the morning :)
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| 23:42 | <DRoberts> oooh
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| 23:42 | they added something to that page since i last looked at it
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| 23:43 | "It's recommended that you setup your network first. A static IP is suggested but not required for single NIC setups. If you're using a dual NIC setup, configure the internal NIC to 192.168.67.1."
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| 23:43 | the dual nic bit was not there when i looked last time. (was a while ago)
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| 23:43 | <razielle_tzu> it's been updated in the last few weeks
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| 23:43 | <DRoberts> what would the internal nic be, the one going to the clients?
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| 23:43 | <razielle_tzu> possibly
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| 23:45 | <DRoberts> o btw i suggest when u install webmin u change the default port
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| 23:45 | and u go to securty and set the max login attempt stuff to stricter
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| 23:45 | few months ago someone released a scriptkiddy friendly script to attack webmin sites
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| 23:46 | even better, block all ports externally aside from the web and ssh
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| 23:46 | and use the -D flag on ssh to connect in as if your on the network
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| 23:46 | fire the browser to connect via localhost proxy
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| 23:46 | <razielle_tzu> the internet connection at the computer club will only just allow remote webmin connections, anything else and it just times out
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| 23:47 | <DRoberts> accepts ssh right?
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| 23:47 | or only webmin?
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| 23:47 | <razielle_tzu> only webmin
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| 23:47 | <DRoberts> why no ssh?
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| 23:48 | <razielle_tzu> so i could use it as a webserver from outside the network but no ssh or vnc
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| 23:48 | i never got to the bottom of why
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| 23:48 | <DRoberts> ssh with security cert auth would be more secure than webmin open to the wild
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| 23:48 | <razielle_tzu> i know
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| 23:48 | there's neither webmin or ssh open to the wild atm though
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| 23:49 | <DRoberts> do you use port knocking at all?
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| 23:49 | <razielle_tzu> i've pentested the network from outside a couple of times
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| 23:49 | <DRoberts> i have my own server running ssh behind a port knock, and a honeypot ssh running on default ssh port
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| 23:49 | <razielle_tzu> cool
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| 23:50 | <DRoberts> my brain unfortunately got a bit damaged, so its weird i can do some interesting things but can derp over some simple ones.
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| 23:50 | <razielle_tzu> i keep debating setting a honeypot up somewhere but there's no data stored anywhere that puts people at risk on the network i manage so i haven't done so
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| 23:51 | <DRoberts> it can lead to some funny things:)
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| 23:51 | by chance i was signed into my honeypot doing a test
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| 23:51 | when a script kiddie fell into it
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| 23:51 | <razielle_tzu> i'm bipolar, that leads to some fun things too
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| 23:51 | <DRoberts> i kinda trolled him a bit into thinking he hacked into a agi test system
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| 23:52 | <razielle_tzu> lol
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| 23:52 | <DRoberts> had him thinking he was talking to a agi computer.
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| 23:53 | some peeps are just to gullable.
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| 23:53 | <razielle_tzu> yeah
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| 23:53 | <DRoberts> when i got bored of him i said something along the lines of
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| 23:54 | "if you wish to access the control options, remember the command to exit my auto reply is /exit"
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| 23:54 | so the idiot closed his own ssh connection.
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| 23:54 | <razielle_tzu> lol
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| 23:54 | <DRoberts> then he came back and said
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| 23:54 | "that did not work over ssh it shut my connection off"
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| 23:54 | there was much facedesk.
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| 23:55 | <razielle_tzu> heh
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| 23:55 | <DRoberts> have you installed sl ?
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| 23:55 | turns any ls typos into a ascii art train animation
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| 23:56 | cmatrix -s is kinda intresting also
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| 23:56 | <razielle_tzu> i haven't installed sl but i do use the fortune program quite a bit
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| 23:56 | <DRoberts> do u pipe the fortune into cowsay
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| 23:56 | and put it in the ssh login header?
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| 23:56 | random quotes each time you ssh in:)
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| 23:57 | just remember to use the censor flag if its in a work/classroom environment
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| 23:57 | unlike my buddy who tried to copy me and ended up having a cow swearing at his boss:p
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| 23:59 | <razielle_tzu> i do
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