IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 26 July 2012 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:00 | <alkisg> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/wouter/nbd.git;a=commit;h=6abdd46853f475aa917551d43197410a99fd09ce
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| 08:00 | When nbd-client in persist mode is trying to reconnect because of nbd-server restart, it is highly probable that nbd-server will not be ready to serve a reconnection request in time causing nbd-client to exit with "connection refused" diagnostics. This change makes nbd-client in persist mode retry its reconnection attempts until succeeded.
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| 08:00 | ...that sounds useful for a backport...
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| 08:51 | <Hyperbyte> Goooood morning everyone! :-)
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| 08:56 | <knipwim> hey Hyperbyte
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| 10:41 | <Hyperbyte> Hey Phoenix!
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| 12:57 | <andygraybeal> morning guys
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| 13:12 | <Hyperbyte> Hey. :)
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| 15:51 | <qwebirc6059> Hi everyone!
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| 15:52 | Why the ltsp5 not mount media (usbstick, cdrom, ...) automatic??? Any ideia how to fix it?
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| 15:56 | Why the ltsp5 not mount media (usbstick, cdrom, ...) automatic??? Any ideia how to fix it?
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| 16:08 | <bengoa> qwebirc6059: did you set localdev = true on your lts.conf?
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| 16:16 | <qwebirc6059> yes. localdev = true and my user is fuse group. i'm using ubuntu 12.04
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| 16:18 | <mikec> Hi. Setting up ltsp-cluster on ubuntu 12.04. For some reason, clients try to PXE boot, and I see the DISCOVER and OFFER log entries, but never an ACK entry, thus the thin-clients are not booting. Not sure if its something in my dhcp config files, but they sure look a lot like my working ltsp (non-cluster) environment. Any ideas appreciated!
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| 17:02 | <mikec> I think it may be related to DNS
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| 17:28 | <alkisg> mikec: DHCP doesn't involve DNS. Check if there's another authoritative DHCP server on your network, which rejects your LTSP server's DHCP OFFERs
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| 18:53 | <roasted> hello friends!
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| 18:53 | how's everybody?
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| 18:54 | <muppis> Listening some music and thinking could get some sleep before last workday.
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| 18:55 | <roasted> nice nice
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| 18:56 | have any of you done a direct Edubuntu 10.04 upgrade to 12.04?
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| 18:56 | I typicaly don't do OS upgrades but if LTS to LTS proves easy with an LTSP server I may just do it unless there's a compelling reason not to
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| 19:01 | <highvoltage> roasted: I've done upgrade testing for that before release, and it passed the upgrade tests
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| 19:03 | <roasted> highvoltage: so you'd say 10.04-12.04 is a safe bet?
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| 19:03 | I'd hate to rebuild everything if I don't *need* to, ya know. Sure, configs are backed up and whatnot but...
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| 19:03 | I would rather know what I'm getting into beforehand.
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| 19:16 | <highvoltage> roasted: I usually make a copy of the filesystem on the filesystem just before doing something like that, just to be safe
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| 19:16 | <roasted> highvoltage: copy of the FS? In terms of what... dd'ing everything?
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| 19:16 | <highvoltage> (so basically just make a directory called oldroot and copy everything in / in there except for /dev, /sys, /proc etc)
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| 19:17 | <vagrantc> highvoltage: just did my first test ltsp build after ldm/ldm-themes hit wheezy ... succeeded and pulled in the new default theme :)
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| 19:18 | <highvoltage> dd'ing would work but it's slow since it writes the whole disk sector by sector, having a copy of the filestructure means that in a worst case scenario, I can just move the copy the files back and do a grub-install and its back
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| 19:19 | <roasted> highvoltage: when you say copy everything you mean sudo cp -R / /home/administrator/Desktop/backupoffilesystem ??
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| 19:19 | * vagrantc uses partimage for full system backups | |
| 19:19 | <vagrantc> you'll want to use rsync or something that respects hardlinks
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| 19:19 | <roasted> ah k
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| 19:20 | <vagrantc> or some other utility designed for proper backups
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| 19:20 | <roasted> clonezilla, etc?
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| 19:20 | <highvoltage> roasted: yeah, basically. but yes as vagrantc says, use rsync instead, and exclude any kind of mounted filesystems
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| 19:20 | <vagrantc> rsync is one of the simplest, but easy to get slightly wrong
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| 19:20 | <roasted> highvoltage: I take it this is done via livecd?
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| 19:20 | <highvoltage> roasted: I usually just use it on-system with no one logged in or otherwise using the system
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| 19:21 | <roasted> no one logged in, in terms of clients?
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| 19:21 | not sure how you can initiate commands without being logged in somehow...
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| 19:21 | <highvoltage> thin clients, using any web service, or anything that could change any data you care about
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| 19:21 | but you could be logged in, that's fine
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| 19:21 | <roasted> k
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| 19:22 | I suppose I can just fire up the upgrade service via update manager? Or would I be better off apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade'ing it?
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| 19:22 | <highvoltage> apt-get dist-upgrade will definitely break it
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| 19:22 | <roasted> oh my
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| 19:22 | why is that
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| 19:22 | <highvoltage> it's the #1 way to break any lts upgrade
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| 19:22 | it's not supported on Ubuntu
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| 19:22 | <roasted> oh
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| 19:22 | well shit?
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| 19:23 | I wasn't aware
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| 19:23 | <highvoltage> update manager knows about problems between package upgrades and transitions that happened since 10.04
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| 19:23 | if you don't use it you're basically gauranteed to be screwed.
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| 19:23 | <roasted> so you recommend DO use update manager?
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| 19:23 | <highvoltage> yep, lots of people do it. that's why there's usually warnings about it in the release notes and upgrade instructions.
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| 19:24 | <roasted> well imagine that
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| 19:24 | I figured the terminal way would be the one to rely on
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| 19:24 | <highvoltage> roasted: yes, it's the tool you should use to upgrade ubuntu
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| 19:24 | <roasted> k, I'm really glad I asked
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| 19:24 | appreciate it
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| 19:24 | <highvoltage> roasted: you can use it from the terminal too
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| 19:24 | <alkisg> dist-upgrade just means "update the packages" for 10.04, it's not about series upgrades
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| 19:24 | I think `do-release-upgrade` is the console equivalent
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| 19:24 | <roasted> alkisg: hey there! been a while.
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| 19:24 | <alkisg> Hi roasted, hi vagrantc :)
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| 19:24 | <highvoltage> alkisg: well, he probably meant after updating source.list
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| 19:24 | <roasted> (I still owe ya a case of beer) :P
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> I heard paypal now accepts payment in beers :P :D
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| 19:25 | * vagrantc waves to alkisg | |
| 19:25 | <dead_inside> lol
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| 19:25 | <roasted> bahahaha. I'll have to be sure to utilize that feature!
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| 19:25 | <dead_inside> glad to have you back alkisg
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| 19:25 | <roasted> highvoltage: moral of the story, use update manager... got it. :D
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> Hi dead_inside
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| 19:26 | <roasted> alkisg: the console equivalent of updating to the new LTS via update manager, you mean?
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> Yes, but I never use upgrades so don't take my word for it :)
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| 19:26 | <highvoltage> vagrantc: oh awesome (regarding theme, sorry for lag, I'm interrupted constantly by in-real-life people :p)
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| 19:26 | <roasted> alkisg: I don't either, but since this is already an LTS and fully set up, upgrading it (if its reliable) would be super nice.
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> Sure, I understand the motives for upgrades
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| 19:27 | <roasted> It's kind of funny. I set up LTSP at my last job... and then my buddy applied for it and got my old job...
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> But since I've a simple script to install all my apps, and I have all my settings under /home, I don't bother... not many modifications in /etc to re-apply after format
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| 19:28 | <roasted> so now my old boss (good working relationship with him) wants to re-hire me as a sub to train my buddy on LTSP, and upgrade to 12.04 in the process.
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| 19:28 | Hence, tomorrow's agenda.
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| 19:28 | It's been months since I touched that server, so I'm trying to jolt my brain back into that mode.
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| 19:29 | alkisg: I hear you. In this instance I know I did a lot of modifications to get the profiles to show up a specific way, etc. I just hate to redo all that when it's not 100% fresh.
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| 19:29 | if I can retain all of the mods I did, but upgrade it, we'd be golden.
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| 19:30 | I know I have a google doc I left behind containing every-single-last-step-i-ever-did, but to read that and effectively re-learn would take a decent chunk of time I don't have to spare right now
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| 20:29 | <marcelo> hey guys
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| 20:32 | <mhterres> What's the name of the script in LTSP 5 that create a desktop icon in user desktop when a USB is plugged in thin client?
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| 20:33 | or do I need to create one ?
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