IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 February 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:57 | <alkisg> knipwim: good morning, where was that hackathon wiki page? I'd like to add "Drop .nbi support" there...
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| 06:58 | Also, could you change http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Meeting:Upcoming to use this instead? date -d '2013/02/25 18:30 UTC'
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| 07:01 | <knipwim> alkisg: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Dev:Development
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| 07:02 | is linked on the homepage
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| 07:02 | from there you can go to the Hackathon page
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| 08:15 | <alkisg> Ty, done
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| 08:17 | Hmm... up to 12.04.1, Ubuntu had a non-pae and a -pae kernel. From 12.04.2/12.10 onwards, there's only the -pae kernel, but it no longer ends in -pae.
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| 08:19 | That will confuse our pxelinux.cfg/default generation code... so for 12.04.2 it won't be possible anymore to have both a pae and a non-pae kernel, and let the client automatically decide which one to select
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| 13:18 | <engblom> How do I do to get printers exported to fatclients?
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| 15:26 | <alkisg> engblom: server printers?
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| 15:26 | Just select "publish to local network" from the printer dialog settings
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| 15:37 | <josepm> hola
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| 15:38 | alguien habla castellano?
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| 15:39 | <alkisg> Nope
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| 15:40 | <josepm> well, my english is very bad, sorry
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| 15:40 | I need to save space in a facility edubuntu, I have seen that there is a folder / opt / ltsp, which I guess is to mount a ltsp server, if you do not want to ride-it, I can delete? thanks
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| 15:41 | <alkisg> If you don't use it, you can delete it, yes
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| 15:41 | <Hyperbyte> josepm, /opt/ltsp is for the client. If you don't use LTSP, sure.
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| 15:42 | <josepm> no, i don't use, thanks
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| 15:43 | I've uninstalled the LTSP packages, but I left the folder is normal?
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| 15:43 | <alkisg> Yes it's normal
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| 15:43 | Delete it
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| 15:44 | <josepm> ok, thank you very much
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| 15:46 | <engblom> alkisg: After much googling, I found out that is a reported bug in debian wheezy that nobody have been caring to fix. It was reported in August.
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| 15:47 | <alkisg> engblom: which one?
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| 15:47 | <engblom> Wait, I need to search it up through their bug database...
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| 15:48 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=684008
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| 15:49 | <alkisg> So, downgrading cups solved the problem for you?
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| 15:50 | <engblom> That would probably have been solving too. Instead I edited the ltsp scripts to make /etc/cups permanent on the client and not a tmp-fs folder which is polling the server for printers. Then I copied over the printer configurations. So now all printers also locally installed.
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| 15:51 | I hate such hacks.
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| 15:51 | <alkisg> Are those network printers, or connected to the server via usb?
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| 15:52 | <engblom> Network printers...
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| 15:52 | So that is why my hack works.
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| 15:52 | <alkisg> Yeah
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| 15:52 | I don't think the bug you linked is relevant though
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| 15:54 | <engblom> At least in Debian Wheezy, it seems to be impossible to get printers shared through cups. The settings in the cups scripts should be right by default, according to the manual.
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| 15:55 | <alkisg> $ cupsctl | grep _share_printers
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| 15:55 | _share_printers=0
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| 15:55 | That needs to be 1 to share printers, it's 0 by default
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| 15:56 | <engblom> I changed it in my configuration:
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| 15:56 | cupsctl | grep _share_printers
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| 15:56 | _share_printers=1
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| 15:56 | I had been checking up that too...
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| 15:59 | <engblom> It is just so typical Debian where "stable" means "can not be changed". Instead of doing like most other (accepting minor updates) they just try with under power to patch themselves.
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| 17:30 | <knipwim> Enslaver: i asked about the =~ earlier because we aim to be posix compliant
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| 17:32 | <alkisg> knipwim: what's =~ ?
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| 17:32 | * alkisg found that posh is good for testing posix compliance | |
| 17:34 | <knipwim> apparently a bash and ksh regex evaluation
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| 17:34 | <alkisg> Ah
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| 17:34 | <knipwim> Enslaver: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/common/doc/CodingStyle
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| 17:34 | * alkisg tries not to use bashisms in scripts | |
| 17:35 | <knipwim> not for ltsp at least
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| 17:35 | <alkisg> There's `expr match` if you need it
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| 17:36 | <knipwim> is that faster then piping to grep?
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| 17:38 | <alkisg> It depends on what you want to do....
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| 17:43 | <Enslaver> so =~ is not posix?
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| 17:43 | Its in bash, csh, tsch, ksh, dash and ash
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| 17:44 | and perl
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| 17:47 | <lmartins> Hi
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| 17:47 | I asked yesterday but without success
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| 17:48 | I need to put the chroot in a live usb pen
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| 17:48 | and I have a boot script that gets the lts.conf...
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| 17:48 | but my live pen isn't working...
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| 17:48 | anyone knows how to do it?
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| 17:48 | I need a chroot of ubuntu 12.04
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| 17:49 | <alkisg> Enslaver: dash supports it? I don't see it in its man page...
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| 17:49 | <Enslaver> I call dash for my initramfs scripts and use it, it didn't error that i saw
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| 17:49 | lemme check
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| 17:50 | <alkisg> lmartins: so you're planning to use an LTSP chroot from a USB stick that connects to a Windows Server? Why would you use LTSP for that, instead of just a custom ubuntu image?
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| 17:51 | <lmartins> Yes...
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| 17:51 | <alkisg> Why?
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| 17:51 | <lmartins> but I want a light image...
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| 17:51 | <alkisg> Why LTSP?
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| 17:52 | <lmartins> I need to have the same behaviour of ltsp but using a live usb
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| 17:52 | <alkisg> Tinycorelinux is 10 mb, isn't that lighter?
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| 17:52 | <lmartins> I only use lts.conf
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| 17:52 | yes...
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| 17:52 | <knipwim> Enslaver: well, it doesn't work on posh
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| 17:53 | <lmartins> but I want to have a rdesktop and a ldm session
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| 17:53 | <alkisg> An LDM session to what? An LTSP server?
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| 17:53 | Why would you use a USB stick then?
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| 17:53 | Why not netboot it?
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| 17:53 | <lmartins> because it's many terminals
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| 17:54 | and if they boot at the same time I have a bandwith problem
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| 17:54 | if you have any suggestion
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| 17:54 | I need something with the same behaviour...
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| 17:54 | <alkisg> And they won't use LDM at the same time?
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| 17:54 | <lmartins> yes
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| 17:55 | <alkisg> You need more bandwidth for a thin client session after login, than for booting it
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| 17:55 | OK anyway, to do what you want you need to modify the ltsp initramfs scripts in /usr/share/initramfs-tools
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| 17:55 | So that they mount the squashfs image from a stick instead of the network
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| 17:57 | <lmartins> after that I only need to change the filesystem of the usb?
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> Yes
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| 18:00 | <Enslaver> awesome, I'm about to get fired.
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| 18:00 | This should be fun
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| 18:00 | <alkisg> Hehe, for using =~ ???!
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| 18:00 | * alkisg shouldn't joke with such matters though | |
| 18:00 | <Enslaver> alkisg: lol, for something just as bad
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| 18:01 | i was late for work yesterday, bad me
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| 18:01 | <knipwim> you get fired for that???
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| 18:02 | shouldn't be a problem, as long as you finish a days work i guess
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| 18:02 | <Enslaver> yes, in corporate america it doesn't matter how hard you work, it matters that you are there on time
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| 18:02 | <knipwim> keeping your seat warm :)
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| 18:02 | <Enslaver> he's keeping me here until i finish this server, i'm delaying
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| 18:03 | He's already contacted red hat to have their team do my job
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| 18:04 | <lmartins> I am the guy with the balancing server
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| 18:04 | alkisg do you suggest any other solution?
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| 18:04 | I need to boot form live usb
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| 18:05 | and then I need to show something on the screen
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| 18:05 | <alkisg> No I don't have any suggestions, I don't know all the details there
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| 18:05 | You can do what you want with an initramfs-tools patch
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| 18:05 | <lmartins> and when I plug my smartcard it will run a script to know which server to connect
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| 18:06 | <alkisg> Yup we got that
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| 18:07 | <lmartins> the best way is to change the /usr/share/initramfs-tools?
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| 18:07 | <alkisg> It's one way. Another is to use tinycorelinux. And there are lots of other options. Your call.
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| 18:07 | <lmartins> thank you very much
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| 18:08 | ok
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| 18:08 | I will see both of them
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| 18:10 | do you know which scripts that I have to change?
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| 22:39 | <Enslaver> Anyone have trouble running a vmware pxeboot client? Mine seems to work but the mouse doesn't react right, only moves the cursor down
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| 22:39 | * vagrantc uses libvirt with qemu-kvm/qemu | |
| 22:45 | <Enslaver> i have elbows
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