IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 17 November 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:56 | <woernie> How do I manage printers in Fatclients? (ltsp5 chrootless)
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| 11:56 | I setup my printers on the server on thinclients I find these prinetrs and I can use them on thinclients but not on my fatclients.
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| 11:58 | On the fatclients the Networkprinters will be found and installed automaticly. By one Printer(Lexmark) the wrong or a broken driver is installed, so I cann not managed this printer
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| 11:59 | I would like to use the installed printers from the server like on thinclients
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> !print
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| 16:04 | <ltspbot> I do not know about 'print', but I do know about these similar topics: 'fatclient-printers', 'printer'
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| 16:04 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'print', but I do know about these similar topics: 'fatclient-printers', 'printer'
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> !fatclient-printers
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| 16:04 | <ltspbot> fatclient-printers: You can publish printers on your network so that fat clients see them, by launching "system-config-printer" and selecting Server → Settings → Publish shared printers connected to this system
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| 16:04 | <ltsp`> fatclient-printers: You can publish printers on your network so that fat clients see them, by launching "system-config-printer" and selecting Server → Settings → Publish shared printers connected to this system
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| 16:04 | <alkisg> woernie: ^
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> Bye, ltsp` :)
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| 18:21 | <eddyTV> Any experience in not using a display manager? For my use case, I want autologin, and each client has its own dedicated user. Simply adding JUST lightdm requires an *additional* 274 packages be installed!
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| 18:24 | <alkisg> eddyTV: sure, install nodm
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| 18:24 | Or, apt install --no-install-recommends lightdm
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| 18:24 | nodm is unmaintained upstream though
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| 18:25 | <eddyTV> Wondering if it would be possible to do something like what's described in https://askubuntu.com/a/387831 and just start X with a lightweight window manager like xfwm4.
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| 18:26 | <alkisg> Sure, but then you'd ignore everything that does things properly; so you shouldn't complain if usb sticks don't work etc
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| 18:26 | As the user wouldn't even be registered by systemd as an active seat user
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| 18:26 | <eddyTV> Hmm. USB sticks aren't an issue for my use case, but I wonder what other implications there are
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| 18:26 | <alkisg> That's also the reason nodm is unmaintained, (and even ltsp's ldm), because noone wants to bother to do all the complicated things display managers need to do nowadays
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| 18:27 | It *should* be as easy as running an xsession, but it's far, far from that
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| 18:27 | Even forgetting to set an environment variable may make panels not load at all
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| 18:28 | eddyTV: are you sure you tried apt install --no-install-recommends lightdm?
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| 18:28 | It should be very light on dependencies
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| 18:29 | And with lightdm-autologin-greeter, it should be easy to autologin too (that's from the nodm programmer)
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| 18:32 | For me those 2 just add 5 MB to the image
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| 18:35 | <eddyTV> I'm looking at the distrobuilder source to see what it does for `apt`...
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| 18:36 | It looks like that *used* to be the default, but not anymore: https://github.com/lxc/distrobuilder/commit/a1ba76774
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| 18:38 | Let me add "--no-install-recommends" to the package `flags:` in my distrobuilder yaml file and see what changes
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| 19:12 | <eddyTV> (this is taking a little longer than expected since it appears I have to defined a "custom" package manager to be able to set flags)
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| 20:08 | <woernie> !printer
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| 20:08 | <ltspbot> printer: Quick how-to: RCFILE_01="/usr/sbin/jetpipe /dev/usb/lp0 9100 &" in lts.conf, reboot client, then go to server's add printer dialog, and specify network printer → jetdirect → ltsp123.local
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| 20:09 | <uumas> Yeah, that's outdated
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| 20:27 | <eddyTV> alkisg: that definitely made a big difference! I rebuilt my chroot with --no-install-recommends as the default, and it went from 995 packages to 464 packages (both with lightdm). I wonder which of those 531 packages I actually want, though. :)
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| 21:19 | (darn... some "required" packages are missing, because lightdm didn't even start when I tested this image)
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| 21:21 | like... *xinit*... d'oh.
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| 21:22 | This will be fun figuring out what packages to add to the install manifest...
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| 21:33 | <eddyTV> Adding "xinit" did allow me to manually run "startx" after logging in via the tty, but still no lightdm.
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