IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 6 May 2013   (all times are UTC)

00:41
<ltspuser_35>
Can anyone help me with a blank desktop on my thin clients?
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09:00
<lifeboy>
I used a Debian Wheezy server I created in a VM over the weekend to build a chroot i386 for my Ubuntu server. As Alkisg explained, I copied /opt/ltsp/i386 from the Wheezy VM to /opt/ltsp/i386 on Ubuntu Precise. Then ran "ltsp-update-image -a i386". Now my Thin Client boots Wheezy, but drop to a command prompt, not connecting to LTSP server OS. Clearly my lack of experience is thwarting me here. What am I doing wrong?
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11:52
<James_Epp>
So I have my ltsp to the point where I can take a client and boot over the network into it. However, if I add a user on the server, I cannot log into that user on the ltsp client. What am I missing? This was working perfectly yesterday....... (I have rebooted both the server and the client with no changes)
12:00
Even if I change the user to an administrator, I get no different result. As soon as I put in the credentials, it says "verifying password....." then goes back to main login screen with no error message.
12:04
Solution: When in the server, I switched users and logged in to make sure the user account worked. Now, the client can get into the user account just fine. I can only assume this means you have to log in locally before you can externally? Is there a work around for this?
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13:16
<ltspuser_54>
hello
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14:16
<lifeboy>
apart from "SCREEN_07=ldm" in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, what is needed to load LDM when a thin-client boots?
14:34
All I get is a debian logon prompt, but I can't find an error in the boot process.
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17:20
<DJUnreal>
hey hey
17:20
bloomin' 'eck, it's busy in here!
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17:23
<DJUnreal>
hey stefano-k
17:23
<stefano-k>
DJUnreal: hi
17:23
<DJUnreal>
how's you?
17:24
<stefano-k>
ok :)
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17:25
<DJUnreal>
bit of a dumb question...
17:26
how easy is it to load-balance LTSP across two servers?
17:27
we've outgrown the existing server
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and need to expand to a second server
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17:57
<DJUnreal>
but yeah... anyone done it?
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18:37
<anivair>
Quick question (for a problem I've had before, but have forgotten the solution for). I'm getting connected to the new server. I can get a display via a disklessworkstations 1700 series, but on an older series (the red boxes) my display is all distorted.
18:37
(the install is screwy somehow anyway, because I'm not getting a complete login on either, but the newer model looks better, at least)
18:37
I am thinking I might have installed incorrectly from the get go
18:39
<komunista>
Hi all
18:40
<anivair>
(hi)
18:40
<komunista>
please, I am using the LTSP under Debian squeeze (oldstable now)
18:40
<anivair>
install was something like apt-get install ltsp-server standalone
18:40
built with arch i386
18:40
<komunista>
please, are there some noteable changes for updating to the new stable?
18:41
(I am in the creating upgrade plan phase :-) )
18:46
<unkmar>
Hmm. user having problems logging in after screen saver runs. Hints?
18:47
Any ideas where to look for errors?
18:50
That's strange.
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18:56* DJUnreal would recommend checking out /var/log/messages as a good starting point :P
19:09
<unkmar>
DJUnreal: that is pretty well empty.
19:09
and doesn't exist under the arch.
19:12
/var/log/auth.log isn't helping any either. :(
19:13
and I can't view it from the client side. Won't auth for any users.
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19:13
<unkmar>
It appears to be stuck at the screen saver and only usable via a reboot. :(
19:14
<DJUnreal>
well that's really odd
19:14
<elias_a>
Really, indeed.
19:14
<DJUnreal>
ahh
19:14
<unkmar>
I managed to discover the client IP and it is still pingable.
19:15
<DJUnreal>
the client side won't auth because there actually aren't any users on the clients
19:15
<elias_a>
Uhh...
19:15
Oh - that explains. :D
19:15
<DJUnreal>
but your client should be connecting back to the ltsp server and the ltsp server should log issues opening xsessions to it
19:15
you might find an xorg.log or something similar in /var/log on your server
19:15
which will give you a fighting chance at working out why your clients aren't doing too well
19:16
it's almost as if your screensaver is locking up X
19:16
<unkmar>
still shows connected via sshd from 'ps aux'
19:16
<DJUnreal>
yes, so you're opening the raw connection
19:16
presumably it doesn't fail to authenticate?
19:16
ie your client boots up, you log in at the LTSP screen, and /then/ it stops working?
19:17
<unkmar>
I'm looking from the server point of view. :/
19:17
Other clients are still working.
19:17
<DJUnreal>
wait... your SERVER is locking up when the screensaver kicks in?
19:18
<unkmar>
The server appears to be working fine. The client can no longer log back in.
19:18
<DJUnreal>
right
19:18
so run me through it from the start
19:18
<unkmar>
Other clients are logging in fine. I've reset the client password and still no go.
19:18
<DJUnreal>
your server is up and running
19:18
you boot up a client
19:18
you're able to log in and use it
19:18
and after the client runs its screensaver it locks up?
19:18
<unkmar>
yep, pretty much.
19:18
<DJUnreal>
Okay
19:19
<unkmar>
The client isn't frozen. I get a login screen. it just isn't authing.
19:19
<DJUnreal>
ahhhhhhhh
19:19
that's different
19:19
i was about to blame drivers and gfx cards
19:19
Laughs Out Loud
19:19
<unkmar>
everything is functional. Just won't auth.
19:20
<DJUnreal>
that's unhelpful
19:20
but other clients can first-time-auth /after/ this issue starts happening?
19:21
<unkmar>
and.. well. I didn't put ssh on the clients so... I can't see form the client perspective at all. :(
19:21
<DJUnreal>
even with ssh on the clients
19:21
you can't see what's going on with them unless you have a local login which you won't have
19:21
<unkmar>
Have not logged other clients out. So I don't know if they auth or not.
19:21
<DJUnreal>
because the clients have no local users as i understand it
19:22
<unkmar>
I'm running fat clients and they have persistance but... yeah. looks like a lot of things are unavailable. :(
19:22
<DJUnreal>
sounds like perhaps lockfiles are getting in the way or something
19:22
<unkmar>
I'm booting a virtual client now to test login. :(
19:23* DJUnreal puts the Jerez MotoGP on his other screen to aid his thinking
19:25
<unkmar>
okay. got locked into the freaking virtual host for bit there.
19:25
but I was able to login to another user.
19:25
<DJUnreal>
Okay
19:25
so is it user-locked
19:25
or host-locked?
19:26
ahh awesome
19:26
i've managed to get NIS working :)
19:27
<unkmar>
It isn't the user.
19:27
I just logged in as that user from the virtual client.
19:28
<DJUnreal>
hrmm
19:28
host-locked then
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19:49
<DJUnreal>
ah sweet... got my NFS mounts auto-loading too
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19:50
<mcfloppy2>
hello
19:51
is there a way to supply aditional backends in ldm like freenx or so?
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<DJUnreal>
mcfloppy2: not sure
20:04
<mcfloppy2>
okay...
20:05
is there a way to speed up the big desktop environments like kde4 or gnome? the desktop activitys are dissabled
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20:14
<unkmar>
for the moment. I simply had the user reboot. Not really a solution since they lose their previous working environment. IE, any unsaved changes.
20:18* DJUnreal nods
20:19
<DJUnreal>
so what i'm trying to understand here
20:19
is what i need to do for the second LTSP server
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