IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 May 2013 (all times are UTC)
| 00:41 | <ltspuser_35> Can anyone help me with a blank desktop on my thin clients?
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| 09:00 | <lifeboy> I used a Debian Wheezy server I created in a VM over the weekend to build a chroot i386 for my Ubuntu server. As Alkisg explained, I copied /opt/ltsp/i386 from the Wheezy VM to /opt/ltsp/i386 on Ubuntu Precise. Then ran "ltsp-update-image -a i386". Now my Thin Client boots Wheezy, but drop to a command prompt, not connecting to LTSP server OS. Clearly my lack of experience is thwarting me here. What am I doing wrong?
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| 11:52 | <James_Epp> So I have my ltsp to the point where I can take a client and boot over the network into it. However, if I add a user on the server, I cannot log into that user on the ltsp client. What am I missing? This was working perfectly yesterday....... (I have rebooted both the server and the client with no changes)
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| 12:00 | Even if I change the user to an administrator, I get no different result. As soon as I put in the credentials, it says "verifying password....." then goes back to main login screen with no error message.
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| 12:04 | Solution: When in the server, I switched users and logged in to make sure the user account worked. Now, the client can get into the user account just fine. I can only assume this means you have to log in locally before you can externally? Is there a work around for this?
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| 13:16 | <ltspuser_54> hello
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| 14:16 | <lifeboy> apart from "SCREEN_07=ldm" in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, what is needed to load LDM when a thin-client boots?
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| 14:34 | All I get is a debian logon prompt, but I can't find an error in the boot process.
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| 17:20 | <DJUnreal> hey hey
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| 17:20 | bloomin' 'eck, it's busy in here!
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| 17:23 | <DJUnreal> hey stefano-k
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| 17:23 | <stefano-k> DJUnreal: hi
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| 17:23 | <DJUnreal> how's you?
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| 17:24 | <stefano-k> ok :)
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| 17:25 | <DJUnreal> bit of a dumb question...
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| 17:26 | how easy is it to load-balance LTSP across two servers?
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| 17:27 | we've outgrown the existing server
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| 17:27 | and need to expand to a second server
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| 17:57 | <DJUnreal> but yeah... anyone done it?
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| 18:37 | <anivair> Quick question (for a problem I've had before, but have forgotten the solution for). I'm getting connected to the new server. I can get a display via a disklessworkstations 1700 series, but on an older series (the red boxes) my display is all distorted.
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| 18:37 | (the install is screwy somehow anyway, because I'm not getting a complete login on either, but the newer model looks better, at least)
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| 18:37 | I am thinking I might have installed incorrectly from the get go
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| 18:39 | <komunista> Hi all
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| 18:40 | <anivair> (hi)
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| 18:40 | <komunista> please, I am using the LTSP under Debian squeeze (oldstable now)
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| 18:40 | <anivair> install was something like apt-get install ltsp-server standalone
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| 18:40 | built with arch i386
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| 18:40 | <komunista> please, are there some noteable changes for updating to the new stable?
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| 18:41 | (I am in the creating upgrade plan phase :-) )
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| 18:46 | <unkmar> Hmm. user having problems logging in after screen saver runs. Hints?
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| 18:47 | Any ideas where to look for errors?
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| 18:50 | That's strange.
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| 18:56 | * DJUnreal would recommend checking out /var/log/messages as a good starting point :P | |
| 19:09 | <unkmar> DJUnreal: that is pretty well empty.
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| 19:09 | and doesn't exist under the arch.
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| 19:12 | /var/log/auth.log isn't helping any either. :(
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| 19:13 | and I can't view it from the client side. Won't auth for any users.
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| 19:13 | <unkmar> It appears to be stuck at the screen saver and only usable via a reboot. :(
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| 19:14 | <DJUnreal> well that's really odd
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| 19:14 | <elias_a> Really, indeed.
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| 19:14 | <DJUnreal> ahh
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| 19:14 | <unkmar> I managed to discover the client IP and it is still pingable.
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| 19:15 | <DJUnreal> the client side won't auth because there actually aren't any users on the clients
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| 19:15 | <elias_a> Uhh...
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| 19:15 | Oh - that explains. :D
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| 19:15 | <DJUnreal> but your client should be connecting back to the ltsp server and the ltsp server should log issues opening xsessions to it
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| 19:15 | you might find an xorg.log or something similar in /var/log on your server
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| 19:15 | which will give you a fighting chance at working out why your clients aren't doing too well
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| 19:16 | it's almost as if your screensaver is locking up X
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| 19:16 | <unkmar> still shows connected via sshd from 'ps aux'
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| 19:16 | <DJUnreal> yes, so you're opening the raw connection
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| 19:16 | presumably it doesn't fail to authenticate?
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| 19:16 | ie your client boots up, you log in at the LTSP screen, and /then/ it stops working?
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| 19:17 | <unkmar> I'm looking from the server point of view. :/
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| 19:17 | Other clients are still working.
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| 19:17 | <DJUnreal> wait... your SERVER is locking up when the screensaver kicks in?
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| 19:18 | <unkmar> The server appears to be working fine. The client can no longer log back in.
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| 19:18 | <DJUnreal> right
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| 19:18 | so run me through it from the start
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| 19:18 | <unkmar> Other clients are logging in fine. I've reset the client password and still no go.
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| 19:18 | <DJUnreal> your server is up and running
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| 19:18 | you boot up a client
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| 19:18 | you're able to log in and use it
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| 19:18 | and after the client runs its screensaver it locks up?
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| 19:18 | <unkmar> yep, pretty much.
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| 19:18 | <DJUnreal> Okay
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| 19:19 | <unkmar> The client isn't frozen. I get a login screen. it just isn't authing.
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| 19:19 | <DJUnreal> ahhhhhhhh
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| 19:19 | that's different
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| 19:19 | i was about to blame drivers and gfx cards
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| 19:19 | Laughs Out Loud
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| 19:19 | <unkmar> everything is functional. Just won't auth.
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| 19:20 | <DJUnreal> that's unhelpful
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| 19:20 | but other clients can first-time-auth /after/ this issue starts happening?
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| 19:21 | <unkmar> and.. well. I didn't put ssh on the clients so... I can't see form the client perspective at all. :(
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| 19:21 | <DJUnreal> even with ssh on the clients
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| 19:21 | you can't see what's going on with them unless you have a local login which you won't have
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| 19:21 | <unkmar> Have not logged other clients out. So I don't know if they auth or not.
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| 19:21 | <DJUnreal> because the clients have no local users as i understand it
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| 19:22 | <unkmar> I'm running fat clients and they have persistance but... yeah. looks like a lot of things are unavailable. :(
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| 19:22 | <DJUnreal> sounds like perhaps lockfiles are getting in the way or something
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| 19:22 | <unkmar> I'm booting a virtual client now to test login. :(
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| 19:23 | * DJUnreal puts the Jerez MotoGP on his other screen to aid his thinking | |
| 19:25 | <unkmar> okay. got locked into the freaking virtual host for bit there.
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| 19:25 | but I was able to login to another user.
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| 19:25 | <DJUnreal> Okay
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| 19:25 | so is it user-locked
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| 19:25 | or host-locked?
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| 19:26 | ahh awesome
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| 19:26 | i've managed to get NIS working :)
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| 19:27 | <unkmar> It isn't the user.
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| 19:27 | I just logged in as that user from the virtual client.
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| 19:28 | <DJUnreal> hrmm
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| 19:28 | host-locked then
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| 19:49 | <DJUnreal> ah sweet... got my NFS mounts auto-loading too
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| 19:50 | <mcfloppy2> hello
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| 19:51 | is there a way to supply aditional backends in ldm like freenx or so?
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| 19:54 | <DJUnreal> mcfloppy2: not sure
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| 20:04 | <mcfloppy2> okay...
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| 20:05 | is there a way to speed up the big desktop environments like kde4 or gnome? the desktop activitys are dissabled
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| 20:14 | <unkmar> for the moment. I simply had the user reboot. Not really a solution since they lose their previous working environment. IE, any unsaved changes.
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| 20:18 | * DJUnreal nods | |
| 20:19 | <DJUnreal> so what i'm trying to understand here
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| 20:19 | is what i need to do for the second LTSP server
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