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Channel log from 1 January 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:32 | <daniQ> cliebow?
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| 08:16 | <laprag> neuralis: ping
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| 08:17 | <neuralis> hey there! long time no see, happy new year. what's up?
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| 08:17 | <laprag> hey
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| 08:18 | <laprag> neuralis: i was wondering how far the OLPC project is from production
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| 08:18 | <laprag> i seem to remember that you were working for that project too
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| 08:20 | <neuralis> yup. the first beta machines rolled off the production line already (http://dev.laptop.org/~krstic/xo) a bit back, second beta build will be at the end of january, two more beta builds over the next few months, production machine q3/q4 this year.
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| 08:21 | <laprag> ok. one was reviewed here too, by Haakon Wium Lie in Opera, looked good
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| 08:29 | <neuralis> yeah, hakon was walter's student at the media lab.
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| 08:34 | <laprag> ah
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| 08:39 | <cliebow> daniQ:Heyu
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| 08:42 | <laprag> neuralis: thanks.
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| 08:50 | <daniQ> cliebow- happy new year!
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| 08:51 | cliebow- what should i do now? should i mark all upgrades on the synaptic manager and apply?
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| 08:59 | cliebow - do i need to be root to do this?
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| 09:26 | <cliebow> sure..cant hurt..you may find you cant login as root anymore..we can fix that..use sudo
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| 09:41 | <daniQ> wow 999 things to download...
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| 09:41 | <jammcq> laprag: howdie
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| 09:42 | happy new year !!!!!
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| 09:42 | to EVERYBODY
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| 09:43 | <daniQ> happy new year!
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| 09:52 | <daniQ> cleibow - do i keep the old /etc/gdm/gdm.conf or replace it with a new version
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| 09:56 | if i replace it will i loose anything important?
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| 10:01 | does anyone have any advice?
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| 10:01 | <jammcq> daniQ: make a copy of it
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| 10:02 | are you in the process of upgrading or something?
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| 10:03 | <daniQ> yes
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| 10:06 | <cliebow> daniQ:keep the old one..
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| 10:06 | <daniQ> thank you
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| 10:07 | <cliebow> or use the new one....as Martin Yan once said.."no one really cares" 8~)
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| 10:07 | it is all good
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| 10:09 | my wife thinks "feisty fawn" is a porn star
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| 10:09 | <daniQ> ha!
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| 10:10 | tell her that we should take the dogs on a hike because it's so nice out....maybe Cadillac?
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| 10:10 | <cliebow> ill tell her...but she has a wet noodle in hand..and knows how to use it
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| 10:12 | <daniQ> i'm not scared....Turlough will protect me
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| 10:15 | i'm gonna reboot.....
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| 10:15 | thanks for all the help!!!
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| 10:23 | <rjune> jammcq: you there?
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| 10:23 | <jammcq> yessir
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| 10:23 | what's going on?
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| 10:23 | <rjune> Not too much
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| 10:23 | crying about the Elementary, but that's about it
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| 10:24 | <jammcq> crying? how come?
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| 10:24 | <rjune> They've had drunken monkeys doing a lot of work
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| 10:24 | <jammcq> heh
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| 10:24 | <rjune> both there and at the high school
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| 10:24 | 600' ethernet runs
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| 10:24 | pigtails just sticking out of walls.
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| 10:24 | rather then a proper jack.
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| 10:25 | ~20 computers tied to a single 30 amp breaker
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| 10:25 | four 110 hots tied to a single 110 neutral
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| 10:25 | over five machines that have NEVER had any windows updates applied
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| 10:25 | <jammcq> sounds pretty typical of a school
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| 10:27 | <rjune> the 600' ethernet run was the high school, everything else was the elementary
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| 10:32 | <laprag> hey. the americans are alive :)
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| 10:35 | <rjune> greetings and salutations
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| 10:36 | jammcq: enough grousing though, do you happen to have bill_c's cell phone #? I seem to not have it written down and I don't remember it.
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| 10:36 | <jammcq> umm
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| 10:36 | lemme check
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| 10:37 | <laprag> Happy new year all
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| 10:37 | <cliebow> laprag:same to you!!!
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| 10:37 | <jammcq> laprag: how you doing?
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| 10:38 | <cliebow> jammcq..rjune too!!
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| 10:38 | <laprag> i'm fine, how about yourself?
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| 10:38 | <jammcq> doing great
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| 10:38 | <laprag> s/f/ves"
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| 10:38 | <jammcq> looking forward to a great 2007
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| 10:38 | cd
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| 10:38 | oops :)
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| 10:42 | rjune: I'm not finding a ph number. I'm grepping my home dir tho, might find something
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| 10:42 | <rjune> howdy cliebow
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| 10:43 | jammcq: last I saw it you had it in some document for ltsp-bts back in 2005
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| 10:43 | or was it 2004
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| 10:43 | <jammcq> I found the 2005-bts doc, and it doesn't have phone numbers
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| 10:43 | i'm looking for the 2004 now
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| 10:44 | 05 was in montreal, you weren't there, so it must have been the 04 doc
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| 10:44 | <rjune> and good news, for the first time in a long time, all the monthly bills got paid on time
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| 10:44 | <jammcq> WooooHooooooo!
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| 10:44 | good feeling, eh?
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| 10:44 | <rjune> oh yeah
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| 10:44 | it's nice to have more money coming in then going out
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| 10:44 | now if I could only get this back mortgage paid off. oy
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| 10:45 | double payment to catch up.
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| 10:45 | <jammcq> keep it up, it's worth it
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| 10:45 | <rjune> I know
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| 10:45 | March will be a very good month for me
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| 10:46 | three paychecks from two jobs, and 5 from the third
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| 10:48 | <jammcq> as an employer, i'm glad i'm doing the 2 paychecks/month thing
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| 10:49 | <rjune> 1st and 15th ?
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| 10:49 | <jammcq> 1st and 16th
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| 10:49 | <rjune> it has it's ups and downs
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| 11:01 | <laprag> Anyone have any experience with Promise straight IDE controllers (not RAID)?
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| 13:23 | <W^^harddd> hi 1
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| 13:23 | i have to discuss some issues regarding USB mounting
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| 13:30 | <cliebow> M:best wait til tomorrow when Scotto should be here
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| 13:33 | <jwalanta> i got problem gettin ltsp up in suse..
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| 13:34 | <cliebow> jwlanta:let's hear
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| 13:36 | <jwalanta> cliebow: terminal stops at - 'loading pxelinux.cfg/default'
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| 15:03 | <rjune> jammcq: you never found it?
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| 15:23 | <cliebow> rjune:you gonna be around?
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| 15:23 | <rjune> yup
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| 15:24 | <cliebow> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17.10-386..pass that to DaniQ if you see her?
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| 15:25 | <rjune> sure
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| 15:26 | <cliebow> thank you sir!!!
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| 15:27 | <rjune> no worries mate
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| 17:58 | <wth_> am getting "xserver failed" on my k12ltsp 6 install.
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| 17:58 | but it fails only on a thinclient with the 82915G/GV/910GL video.
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| 17:58 | but it works on a thinclient with an i810 video.
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| 17:58 | it says i should chk /tmp/mnt/xorg.log but somehow, i can't find this file.
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| 18:07 | <vagrantc> wth_: /tmp/mnt/xorg.log is on the thin-client ... you logged in there?
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| 18:13 | <wth_> thanks vagrantc, found that.
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| 18:14 | it appears that the newer video 82915G/GV/910GL is also an i810.
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| 18:14 | so setting XSERVER=i810 should also work.
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| 18:15 | let me try that.
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| 19:05 | <cliebow> bill_c:rjune was tryting to catch you
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| 19:25 | <rjune> cliebow: no daniq
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| 19:38 | <cliebow> rjune:thanks..she got no x after update..and didnt know how
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| 19:39 | but yhnak a you just the same
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| 19:40 | <rjune> no problem
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| 20:01 | <daniQ> cliebow - it crashes on other sites not just msm.com
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| 20:03 | firefox is making me crazy with the edgy update going on.....
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| 22:47 | <mistik1> Seems like people are all recovering from last night ;)
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| 22:52 | <robbie> heh
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| 22:52 | yesterday was nyd for me
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| 22:56 | <mistik1> How goes it robbie
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| 22:56 | <robbie> very good thanks
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| 22:56 | well, i never thought i'dd see a video of sadam getting hung
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| 22:57 | <mistik1> yea, picture that
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| 22:57 | <robbie> no pun intended
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| 22:57 | <mistik1> heh
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| 23:01 | <PMantis> Hey mistik1
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| 23:02 | <mistik1> hey Steve
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| 23:02 | Happy new Year man
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| 23:03 | <PMantis> HAPPY NUDE YEAR!!
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| 23:03 | Oh, err, NEW
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| 23:03 | :)
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| 23:03 | <mistik1> haha
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| 23:06 | <PMantis> mistik1, Dude, ya gotta move to Rochester - if I'm busy like this for much longer, I'll consider hiring.
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| 23:06 | <mistik1> wow
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| 23:07 | <PMantis> Dunno if I can expect it to continue, but I'd like to hope so.
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| 23:07 | Right near the end of installing an aserisk phone system for a call center. 30 seats.
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| 23:07 | <mistik1> Its great to hear that you're keeping busy man
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| 23:08 | <PMantis> Thanks... well, How about YOU?!
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| 23:08 | You busy?
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| 23:08 | <jammcq> busy is good, but are you making any money ? That's the important thing
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| 23:08 | <mistik1> Not as busy as i'd like but I have a lot of other things on my plate just now
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| 23:08 | <PMantis> Heh, yeah, that's important.... it *IS* why we do thins, right?
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| 23:09 | The good part of this project is selling them 3 switches, 30 phones, cards, and my time.
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| 23:10 | <jammcq> PMantis: do you ever run into issues with asterisk, when it comes to dialing conf-call access codes, or other dtmf things ?
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| 23:11 | <PMantis> Yeah, dtmfmode is the option: rfc2083?, inband, info
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| 23:11 | <jammcq> i've had a problem with things that start with '9'. For some reason, the phone thinks i'm trying to transfer the call
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| 23:11 | <PMantis> You have to send DTMF in the same format that the other end is looking for it in.
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| 23:11 | <jammcq> kinda makes it tough sometimes
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| 23:12 | <PMantis> oh, what phone?
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| 23:12 | <jammcq> Linksys 921
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| 23:12 | mfdutra says it's a problem in the phone, not in asterisk
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| 23:12 | <PMantis> I have no experience with that. Perhaps the 9 is a hotkey for transfering...
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| 23:12 | <jammcq> but I haven't found a work-around yet. although I haven't really looked much either
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| 23:13 | <PMantis> Consider grabbing a Polycom (shameless plug-I sell them). :)
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| 23:14 | <jammcq> i've got 3 of the linksys phones in my office. I'm not gonna throw them away
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| 23:14 | <PMantis> I configured my customers' system so that any new phone on the network can autoconfigure itself, if you tell the server the mac address.
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| 23:14 | Ahh, true.
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| 23:15 | If I had one of the phones, it'd be easier to help. But given what I know so far, it's likely a phone config issue.
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| 23:16 | jammcq, have you registered your DIDs with e164.org ?
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| 23:16 | <jammcq> huh ?
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| 23:17 | <mistik1> lol
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| 23:17 | This is kinda funny seeing PMantis ramble along as the asterisk expert
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| 23:17 | I love it man
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| 23:17 | <PMantis> e164.org is a domain for ENUM lookups.
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| 23:17 | heh
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| 23:17 | <jammcq> what is DID ?
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| 23:18 | * vagrantc thinks it's the past tense of "do" | |
| 23:18 | <PMantis> DID = Direct Inward Dialing...
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| 23:18 | <jammcq> same as 'done'
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| 23:18 | PMantis: and that is..... ?
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| 23:18 | <PMantis> today it refers to the actual phone number, with country code.
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| 23:19 | <jammcq> separate phone numbers for each phone ?
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| 23:19 | <PMantis> No, just a number that enters the * system
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| 23:19 | <jammcq> I still don't understand
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| 23:19 | I have a phone number for my office
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| 23:19 | why would I need to register that anywhere, other than telling my customers about it
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| 23:20 | <PMantis> Yes, that's considered to be a DID.
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| 23:20 | <robbie> busy? when it stops being busy, that is good too. Thats when the cheques start coming in.
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| 23:20 | <jammcq> PMantis: ok, why would I want to register that?
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| 23:21 | <PMantis> Ok, that's the point. My system does an ENUM lookup on evern phone number that I dial...
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| 23:21 | For example... if you dial me.:
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| 23:21 | 15852989420
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| 23:21 | Your system can do this: host -t any 0.2.4.9.8.9.2.5.8.5.1.e164.org
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| 23:21 | <jammcq> and why would I want to do that?
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| 23:21 | <PMantis> (My number, backwards, in domain format)
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| 23:22 | Type that in a shell, and look.. it gives you a direct IAX2 dialstring for toll-bypass.
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| 23:22 | <jammcq> I still don't get the point. why would I want that?
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| 23:22 | <PMantis> "toll bypass"
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| 23:23 | <jammcq> try speaking in English, maybe I'll get it
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| 23:23 | <robbie> i think he means cheap phone calls
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| 23:23 | <jammcq> cheap for me?
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| 23:23 | <PMantis> Bypassing the phone company, so not paying toll for long distance.
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| 23:23 | <mistik1> would it be fair to say its just a fancy phone book?
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| 23:23 | <jammcq> who's not paying toll ?
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| 23:23 | how does it make it so I don't have to pay long distance ?
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| 23:24 | <mistik1> hmm
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| 23:24 | <PMantis> Anyone who dials you with an ENUM-enabled PBX connects direct... and if your system does lookups, you can save tolls for those people you call that have their numbers gregistered.
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| 23:24 | <jammcq> it sounds like something I could do so OTHER people don't have to pay toll to call me
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| 23:25 | <PMantis> jammcq, True, and each person does their part of listing numbers.
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| 23:25 | <jammcq> so what goes there, Phone number and IP address ?
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| 23:26 | <PMantis> Basically, yes
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| 23:26 | <jammcq> and then, do I open up a port on my system to allow IAX2 connections?
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| 23:26 | <PMantis> Yes
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| 23:26 | <jammcq> sounds like a vulnerability to me
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| 23:27 | letting unknown people make iax2 connections to my asterisk box. hmmm
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| 23:27 | <PMantis> Only for the numbers you give public access to.
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| 23:27 | <mistik1> how much more vulnerable would it be than a listed phone number?
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| 23:27 | <jammcq> listed phone number goes through my voip provider
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| 23:27 | they don't connect directly to me
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| 23:28 | <PMantis> Right now, if people dial your number, they get the asterisk box. Not much difference.
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| 23:28 | <mistik1> yea but unless asterisk is inherently vulnerable I dont see a problem
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| 23:28 | <PMantis> mistik1, You probably still have a route in your extensions.conf to call me. :)
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| 23:29 | <jammcq> I'll talk to my buddy john about it. see what he says
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| 23:29 | <mistik1> PMantis: had
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| 23:29 | <robbie> http://rotapile.ods.org/gallery/0701/Adrian%20%26%20Belindas%20New%20House%20001.jpg
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| 23:29 | <mistik1> PMantis: I have none of my old setup
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| 23:29 | <robbie> junior is growing
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| 23:30 | <PMantis> It's funny, I was looking up numbers last night... called a randon number in the directory (separte from the DNS lookup), and dialed it.
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| 23:30 | <robbie> hey Faithful
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| 23:30 | <PMantis> Was talking voip to a guy in Australia by dialing his regular phone number.
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| 23:30 | <robbie> merry everything
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| 23:31 | <Faithful> Hey
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| 23:31 | <PMantis> mistik1, Well, you have it now... just type that "host" command above, and it'll tell you how to connect.
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| 23:31 | heh, actually, you want a different number.
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| 23:32 | <mistik1> well guys, I'm gonna cal it a night
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| 23:32 | <PMantis> mistik1, Here it is: host -t any 3.5.8.3.2.7.6.5.8.5.1.e164.org
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| 23:33 | mistik1, oh, couldn't get that one registered yet... nevermind
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| 23:33 | good night.
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| 23:33 | <mistik1> good night man
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| 23:34 | I'll link with you again soon
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| 23:34 | g`night all
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| 23:34 | * PMantis thinks it's bed time for him too. | |
| 23:34 | <PMantis> Cya guys
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| 23:44 | <Faithful> I have input like "Cr Limit/Terms= 500/130" or "Cr Limit/Terms= 10000/130" etc and I want to turn them into |500|130 |10000|130 etc. I am turning them into a csv file with | as the delimiter So far I have sed -e '/Cr Limit\/Terms=/ { s/\([0-9]\)\/\([0-9]\)/\1|\2/g}' but it changes every occurrence of number/number in the input not just that following "Cr Limit/Terms="
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| 23:57 | <robbie> echo "Cr Limit/Terms= 500/130" | cut -f2 -d =
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| 23:57 | gives
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| 23:57 | 500/130
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| 23:57 | then sub the / for a |
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