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Channel log from 28 April 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 18:53 | <Enslaver> Anyone had a chance to play with VirtualGL?
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| 18:56 | <alkisg> I couldn't make it not crash within 15 minutes of playing with it, so I stopped trying :)
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| 18:56 | Did you manage to make it work?
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| 18:56 | <Enslaver> I got it working using the alternate LD_PRELOAD approach
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| 18:56 | using rrfaker
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| 18:57 | <alkisg> Is it fast enough to run a 3d DE on it?
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| 18:57 | <Enslaver> But what i'd really like is a better implementation for it
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| 18:57 | well, thats the thing, since it uses libjpeg-turbo it sorta emulates 3d
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| 18:57 | so yeah, I get really high frame rates, but they are just turbo'd jpegs
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| 18:58 | <alkisg> I haven't read about libjpeg-tourbo, so, virtualgl doesn't use any 3d capabilities of the harware, neither on the server nor on the client?
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| 18:58 | <Enslaver> I don't see it as a viable approach for high end graphic streaming but it will work for the renderer's of the new GLX desktops
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| 18:59 | it uses the server GPU hardware
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| 18:59 | <alkisg> I imagine that won't scale very well..
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| 18:59 | Btw, isn't it possible to just run the window manager locally on the thin client and get a 3d desktop in this case?
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| 18:59 | <Enslaver> yeah, hardware dependent on the thin client though
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| 19:01 | i.e. a GPU that supports GLX, with VirtualGL the thin client doesn't need that
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| 19:01 | <alkisg> There's llvmpipe for that...
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| 19:02 | <Enslaver> yeah and depending on the application that is a viable approach
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| 19:02 | the good thing i like about virtualGL is that you can use it on a per application basis
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| 19:02 | vglrun appname
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| 19:03 | * alkisg hopes razor-qt and lxde will merge, and that a very nice/light/2d desktop will come out of that... :) | |
| 19:03 | * Enslaver has been using mate and likes it. | |
| 19:05 | <Enslaver> reminds me of good 'ole gnome2, but more green =)
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| 19:12 | ideally i'd like to modify ldm to do both the ssh and the VDL connection using virtualgl, but think i'll wait for ltsp6
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| 19:13 | it would be neat if we could say LTSP6 now with 3D support =)
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| 19:19 | <alkisg> Let's see how ltsp6 fares... there were many ideas, but not much code committed yet...
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| 19:19 | I'd also like to see if we could use samba4 for authentication, so that windows clients can be used too, either real ones or VMs over ltsp
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| 19:20 | <Enslaver> isn't AD just a fancy LDAP?
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| 19:21 | <alkisg> Yup, but I don't think windows clients can connect to any ldap...
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| 19:21 | samba4 includes kerberus so we can have passwordless ssh (==the socket for localapps etc) over that
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| 19:23 | <Enslaver> well i was thinking some sort of pam/sssd/ntlm approach
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| 19:23 | <alkisg> I think the client part of samba 4 uses pam_ldap...
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| 19:23 | <Enslaver> ntlm / kerb
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| 19:24 | <alkisg> Does sssd work with windows clients?
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| 19:25 | <Enslaver> never tried it, i've only used samba/winbind
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| 19:25 | <alkisg> Basically I want to have the schools here drop windows server and replace them with linux servers, which we can automatically configure with scripts
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| 19:26 | <Enslaver> probably need to have some kind of user map to map the windows SID to UID's
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| 19:26 | <alkisg> ...even if they don't use ltsp, or if they use windows VMs over ltsp...
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| 19:26 | I think samba handles the sid to uid part
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| 19:27 | <Enslaver> hmmm it does now?
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| 19:27 | <alkisg> So if samba4 works... I don't think people using that, will need LDM or libpam_sshauth etc, any DM will do
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| 19:27 | <Enslaver> i've always used NIS to do my mappings, if samba4 does it now that's awesome
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| 19:29 | <alkisg> I think samba4 doesn't even need local unix accounts for domain users on the server anymore, it can function as an AD DC without them
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| 19:30 | <Enslaver> they need to change the name of samba =) to like cifa
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| 19:30 | sofa
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