IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 April 2018 (all times are UTC)
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| 07:45 | <Chrisu_> Good morning. Someone active at this time? Need some Help with Pinet
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| 07:54 | <alkisg> Good morning Chrisu_
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| 07:54 | !pinet
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| 07:54 | <ltsp> pinet: pinet doesn't use the upstream ltsp methods and is not supported in this channel. See !raspberrypi for supported methods.
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| 07:54 | <alkisg> !raspberrypi
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| 07:54 | <ltsp> raspberrypi: (#1) Ubuntu/LTSP on Pi 2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RaspberryPi, or (#2) Debian/LTSP (with raspbian chroot) on Pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#3) unofficial Ubuntu/LTSP (with raspbian chroot) on Pi: http://pinet.org.uk/
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| 07:54 | <alkisg> Check #1 there, it's the recommended way to run ltsp in raspberries
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| 07:58 | <Chrisu_> thx for your advise. i will check #1.
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| 07:58 | <alkisg> np
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| 10:41 | <bcg> alkisg: there are three different things: 1) fedora 2) epel 3) rhel.
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| 10:41 | fedora would be the easiest. it probably needs python2->3 conversion (ldminfod, others), some minor cleanup and testing.
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| 10:42 | epel is easier after fedora than directly, but doesn't need py3.
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| 10:42 | rhel would need some paying customer.
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| 10:44 | What I have is non-distro epel/rhel compatible packages.
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| 10:47 | for most rhel users epel is enough, so there is no need to get it to rhel.
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| 10:53 | <Hyperbyte> bcg, you're talking about an LTSP version for RedHat based distros?
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| 10:53 | <bcg> I'm still using nfs root. I would like to switch to nbd before requesting to fed/epel.
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| 10:53 | yes.
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| 10:54 | <Hyperbyte> bcg, you're saying Fedora would be easiest - the whole reason why Warren Togami stopped with maintaing LTSP for Fedora is because of the insane bleeding edge pace with which Fedora pumps out releases.
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| 10:54 | It'd require administrators to upgrade their server's distro every year and every year there's some new technology or something that breaks LTSP.
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| 10:54 | systemd, wayland, gnome3, compositing-only window managers, python, etc...
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| 10:55 | It was too much work for him. I believe a CentOS compatible version lived for a while, but that also broke because of .... can't remember.
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| 10:55 | <bcg> Well, I've been running Fedora on my laptop for years and rhel on my servers.
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| 10:56 | I've also ported ltsp to rhel6 and 7, running them on production systems with hundreds of terminal.
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| 10:56 | <Hyperbyte> Oh don't get me wrong - I'm not bashing Fedora. I use it on every machine I have that requires the latest technology.
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| 10:57 | I'm just saying, as a server maintainer for a few companies, I'm very happy with Ubuntu's pace of deploying a new version every 2 to 4 years (whatever customer prefers), as opposed to an urgent need to roll out a whole new distro every year.
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| 10:57 | <bcg> So what's missing from ltsp/epel is basically "the last mile".
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| 10:57 | Me too, that's why I'm running rhel on servers.
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| 10:58 | <Hyperbyte> Right, for RHEL and CentOS a working version of LTSP makes more sense. But I ran into the issue where the desktop and versions of LibreOffice, GIMP, etc were too outdated in some cases.
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| 10:59 | So I ended up virtualizing the LTSP servers, with a CentOS powered server, and Ubuntu VM serving LTSP thin clients.
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| 11:01 | <bcg> I have rhel(ish) all the way, from vm-server to virtual ltsp server to ltsp thin and fat clients.
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| 11:02 | I'm mostly running firefox only on clients, sometimes libreoffice too.
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| 13:14 | <alkisg> bcg, Hyperbyte, from the ltsp upstream point of view, if one maintains e.g. a redhat folder upstream, it doesn't matter if he's only publishing his work in fedora or epel or rhel
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| 13:14 | So bcg, if you published your packages to fedora, I'd be more than happy to propose that you get upstream commit access, along with welcoming your packaging tree
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| 13:15 | As another example, I'm maintaining Ubuntu support for LTSP, but I don't really care about non LTS Ubuntu releases; LTSP users will just have to accept that :D
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| 13:39 | <bcg> alkisg: rhel/fedora packaging is just one single .spec file, nothing more. It could be on repo root or in some subdir. Having another repo for that feels overkill.
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| 14:04 | <alkisg> bcg: subdir is fine
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