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| 08:41 | <jmilot> Hello
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| 08:41 | I search some informations on ltsp-cluster
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| 08:41 | how i can install it on debian
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| 08:56 | Which files i need to download ?
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| 10:56 | <Hyperbyte> jmilot, have you looked online for some howto's?
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| 10:57 | I haven't ever looked into LTSP-cluster myself (it's not developed by the LTSP developers), but I'm sure there are some instructions to be found, if you look.
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| 11:03 | <jmilot> Yes, i have search on their website but i have fund nothing
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| 11:04 | so i have installed ubuntu package on debian wheezy
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| 13:14 | <lifeboy> My Ubuntu 12.04 LTSP clients boot into Busybox since they cannot find NBDServer. NBDServer doesn't want to start after the upgrade (alkisg: This is the machine that had the dnsmasq blockked by the firewall). How can I "fix" NBD Server on this without rebuilding the whole thing?
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> lifeboy: client: cat /proc/cmdline
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| 13:15 | nbd server doesn't start?
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| 13:16 | egrep -rv '^#|^$' /etc/nbd-server
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| 13:16 | !pastebin
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| 13:16 | <ltsp> pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 13:18 | <lifeboy> alkisg: Yes, it complains about "Key file does not have key 'exportname'" ... I'm pastebinning the output and config now
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> Did you upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04?
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| 13:18 | <lifeboy> yes I did
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| 13:18 | <alkisg> The upgrade path there is pretty broken
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| 13:19 | <lifeboy> actuall first 10.10 a while ago and then to 11.04, 11.10 and 12.04
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| 13:19 | <alkisg> It would be better if you uninstalled everything ltsp/nbd related, deleted all configs from /etc, and then reinstalled everything ltsp/nbd related...
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| 13:19 | <alkisg> lifeboy: vnc or ssh? it'll take a lot of time via pastebin, the old config is pretty much useless with 12.04
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| 13:20 | <lifeboy> My clients have special configs which I didn't create... I'm not sure what was all changed
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| 13:21 | alkisg: I'm onsite. You wanna ssh?
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| 13:21 | <alkisg> Sure, but let's make that socat so that you can see what I'm doing
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| 13:22 | !socat
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| 13:22 | <ltsp> socat: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500, run: socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] socat tcp:server:5500 SYSTEM:"{ sleep 1; xterm -e screen -xRR ra$$; } & exec screen -S ra$$",pty,stderr
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> Hmm I need to change that to not use xterm
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| 13:23 | <lifeboy> Looks pretty complicated... VNC is ok I guess if it's fast enough for you
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> lifeboy: you have a 10.04 chroot
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| 13:30 | You need to build a 12.04 one
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| 13:30 | <lifeboy> yes,the client hardware needs that
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> Are you sure? Why?
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| 13:31 | is the problem (1) pae or (2) cmov?
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| 13:31 | <lifeboy> The chip doesn't support some code that was dropped from UBuntu after 10.04
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| 13:31 | ah, yes, cmov
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> Hmmm you'd better use a wheezy chroot then
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| 13:32 | The nbd-server in 12.04 uses name-based exports,
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| 13:32 | while the nbd-client in 10.04 uses port-based exports
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| 13:32 | <lifeboy> and 10.04 can't talk to that?
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| 13:32 | ok, I understand
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| 13:32 | <alkisg> Not unless you change nbd-server in 12.04 to use port-based exports,
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| 13:32 | ...which will be an extra overhead...
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| 13:33 | The wheezy chroot is very similar to a 12.04 chroot wrt application versions
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| 13:33 | <lifeboy> does Ubuntu LTSP support installing a debian client or must I do that manually?
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| 13:33 | <alkisg> I'd install debian in a vm, then run ltsp-build-client there, and trasfer the result back to ubunntu
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| 13:34 | <lifeboy> Ok, that can be done
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> Ubuntu supposedly supports building a debian chroot, but I think you'll hit a few bugs there...
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| 13:34 | <lifeboy> That I could also run a client in a VM and test by config remotely, not so?
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 13:35 | <lifeboy> Since I can't go out the site again over the weekend, but I can build the VM remotely
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| 13:35 | <alkisg> The nbd-server configuration that's now missing will be created when you run ltsp-update-image, unless you stick to using nfs
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| 13:36 | <lifeboy> So 12.04 doesn't by default use nfs?
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> No, debian uses nfs by default, ubuntu uses nbd by default, in all versions
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| 13:36 | <lifeboy> Ah, I see
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> (I closed vnc)
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| 13:38 | <lifeboy> So I build a chroot for wheezy in a Debian VM, copy it for UBuntu and do ltsp-update-image, which will configure it with nbd rather than nfs?
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| 13:38 | <alkisg> Right
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| 13:38 | <lifeboy> I think I'll get started a.s.a.p. and let's see if I get stuck
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| 13:39 | Never played with Debian, but I suppose it's pretty much like Ubuntu, right?
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| 13:40 | <alkisg> Right, and wheezy is pretty much the same as 12.04 lts, you could even use that for your server without seeing much of a difference
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| 13:40 | (nope, you don't need it, i was just saying...)
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| 13:42 | <lifeboy> Thanks for helping again!
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> np
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| 13:44 | <lifeboy> I see debian has some complete images I can download. Is wheeze the "stable" release?
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| 13:44 | wheezy
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| 13:45 | <jmilot> wheezy will be the next strable release in few days
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| 13:46 | <lifeboy> so which version should I installed? 6.0.7?
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> Wheezy
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| 13:47 | It's debian 7
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| 13:50 | <lifeboy> Ok, I'll search for it.
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| 14:47 | <ltspuser_06> Hi There, I am very new to this project, so apologies for, no doubt, asking a question that has been answered many times. Is there support for audio in this project.
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| 14:47 | ?
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| 14:58 | <ltspuser_39> Hello guys, okay?
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| 14:58 | I installed a scanner on a client ltsp. CM1015 MPF. After installing the scanner driver in chroot and adjust the settings of the sane, the client and the server the command scanimage-L finds the scanner.
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| 14:59 | But when running the simple-scan returns the following error:Unable to get open device: Error during device I/O.
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| 15:01 | In Xsane image returns: Failed to open device `net:192.168.153.21:hpaio:/usb/HP_Color_Laserjet_CM1015?serial=ooCNBY67V016': Error during device I/O.
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| 15:02 | Can you help me?
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| 15:05 | In syslog: simple-scan: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1
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| 19:37 | <cliebow> !seen sbalneav
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| 19:37 | <ltsp> sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 2 days, 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <sbalneav> I can taste the Scoma's now.
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| 19:39 | <sbalneav> cliebow: Chuuuuuuuuuck!
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| 19:39 | How's the house?
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| 19:39 | And how's the postmaster general?
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| 19:41 | <ltspuser_22> Hello, could someone help me with a question related to scanner?
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| 19:44 | <cliebow> Hey Scottie:: fcoming alongh..been finisahing the basement..studded up..sheetrocked...insulated..wireds..doing the floor soon!
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| 19:45 | My left leg went ZSouth this Spring so i havnt done much for a month
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| 19:45 | <sbalneav> Bummer
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| 19:46 | <cliebow> So plodding al;ong best i can..
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| 19:46 | doing nothing interesting at work..fixing one macbook after another
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| 19:47 | <cliebow> start boating for pay in a couple weeks..ive had the whaler in for a mo nth..riding around the Narrows
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| 19:48 | <ltspuser_22> Hello, could someone help me with a question related to scanner?
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| 19:51 | <cliebow> Scittie:heading home..Best to you..
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| 19:52 | <alkisg> ltspuser_22: don't ask to ask a question, ask and wait for possible answers
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| 19:52 | <jammcq> I think he's been asking question, but nobody is responding
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| 19:53 | ltspuser_22: Fabiano?
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| 19:55 | <ltspuser_22> Yes1
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| 19:56 | <jammcq> Have you used that scanner on a full Linux machine?
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| 19:56 | <ltspuser_22> Yes! I am.
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| 19:56 | <jammcq> and it works?
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| 19:57 | <ltspuser_22> Yes, it works!
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| 19:57 | <jammcq> well... the next thing I'd try is accessing it via the network, without LTSP
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| 19:57 | computer "A" with scanner
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| 19:57 | <ltspuser_22> It is a pleasure and a relief to see that you are here (lol).
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| 19:58 | <jammcq> and computer "B". both running full Linux
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| 19:58 | see if computer B can use the scanner on computer A
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| 19:59 | <ltspuser_22> Ok I'll try here, but in case the LTSP server is not complete?
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| 20:00 | <jammcq> well... see if it works in a networked configuration. if it does, then we should be able to make it work with LTSP
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| 20:00 | <ltspuser_22> See, before I could not use scanimage-L does not find the scanner. Now it finds the scanner, both the shell client and the terminal server.
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| 20:02 | <jammcq> when you run 'scanimage -L', what is the output?
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| 20:03 | <ltspuser_22> device `net:192.168.153.21:hpaio:/usb/HP_Color_LaserJet_CM1015?serial=00CNBY67V016' is a Hewlett-Packard HP_Color_LaserJet_CM1015 all-in-one
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| 20:05 | <jammcq> ok, try this:
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| 20:05 | scanimage -d net:192.168.153.21:hpaio:/usb/HP_Color_LaserJet_CM1015?serial=00CNBY67V016
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| 20:05 | <ltspuser_22> I did this work was to install in the chroot libsane.hpaio
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| 20:06 | <jammcq> scanimage -d net:192.168.153.21:hpaio:/usb/HP_Color_LaserJet_CM1015?serial=00CNBY67V016 >image.pnm
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| 20:06 | that should scan the document and place the image in image.pnm
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| 20:07 | <ltspuser_22> scanimage: open of device net:192.168.153.21:hpaio:/usb/HP_Color_LaserJet_CM1015?serial=00CNBY67V016 failed: Error during device I/O
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| 20:07 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 20:07 | can you try it on the client?
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| 20:08 | alkisg: what's a good way to see if the user is logged into the server or a client?
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| 20:08 | <ltspuser_22> is the same, except that it changes the url_device of 'net' to 'usb'.
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| 20:08 | <jammcq> same error?
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| 20:08 | <alkisg> jammcq: hostname ?
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| 20:08 | <jammcq> hmm, yeah
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| 20:09 | ltspuser_22: try: scanimage >image.pnm
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| 20:10 | <ltspuser_22> the client, the error goes to hpaio :/ usb ... rather than hpaio: net ...
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| 20:10 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 20:10 | scanimage --test
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| 20:10 | <ltspuser_22> scanimage: open of device net:192.168.153.21:hpaio:/usb/HP_Color_LaserJet_CM1015?serial=00CNBY67V016 failed: Error during device I/O
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| 20:11 | <jammcq> maybe an incompatiblity with libsane.hpaio
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| 20:11 | where did you get libsane.hpaio ?
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| 20:12 | <ltspuser_82> hi
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| 20:12 | need help
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| 20:12 | <ltspuser_22> apt-get install
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| 20:12 | <jammcq> hmm, that should work
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| 20:13 | ltspuser_82: if you need help, you need to tell us what the problem is
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| 20:13 | we can't guess
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| 20:13 | <ltspuser_82> i have school project
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| 20:13 | ubuntu server
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| 20:13 | windowser server 2008
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| 20:13 | windows 7
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| 20:14 | on vm ware machine
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| 20:14 | i configure everything but from ubuntu server my dhcp is not working
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| 20:15 | i cant give dhcp to win7 through ubuntu server
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> why? are you getting an error?
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| 20:15 | <ltspuser_82> no error
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| 20:15 | <jammcq> on the Ubuntu server, do this: netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:15 | <ltspuser_82> but when i change nic setting of win 7 to dhcp
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| 20:15 | it is not working
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| 20:16 | i cant get dhcp throug ubuntu server on my win7
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| 20:17 | i m new to ubuntu server
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| 20:17 | i almost a week busy
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| 20:17 | with this project
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| 20:17 | <ltspuser_82> netstat -anp | grep ":67 " wat does it do
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| 20:18 | <jammcq> it should tell me if dhcpd is running and listening on port 67
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| 20:18 | <ltspuser_22> I searched on google about this error. Seen in various forums, the bug's problems (not clear if it was a bug in hplip or sane), but they are old posts. Do not believe the problem persists.
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| 20:18 | <ltspuser_82> oke
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| 20:18 | <alkisg> !ltspuser
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| 20:18 | <ltsp> ltspuser: If you're planning to join this IRC channel via web multiple times, it might be a good idea to set some username by typing e.g. "/nick john123", so that channel members can identify you and remember your use case / previous questions etc
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| 20:19 | <jammcq> alkisg: good idea
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| 20:19 | <alkisg> (we should remove the "ltspuserxx" from our webchat form... and let them type their own names)
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| 20:20 | <ltspuser_22> e.g /fabianofaria
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| 20:20 | e.g "/fabianofaria"
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| 20:20 | ?
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| 20:20 | <alkisg> No, type this: /nick fabianofaria
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| 20:20 | Not "e.g.", but "/nick" in front
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| 20:21 | ltspuser_22 is now known as fabianofaria | |
| 20:21 | <alkisg> Better :)
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| 20:21 | <jammcq> welcome fabianofaria
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| 20:21 | <fabianofaria> ohhhh!! (lol)
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| 20:21 | <alkisg> fabianofaria: what's the output of this, on the client? grep saned /var/log/syslog
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| 20:21 | <fabianofaria> tank's!
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| 20:21 | <ltspuser_82> how to simple configure ubunt with windows server 2008 and then via ubuntu give dhcp to clinet win7
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| 20:21 | <alkisg> ltspuser_82: do you have ltsp installed?
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| 20:21 | <ltspuser_82> ubuntu server
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| 20:22 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: what happened when you ran the command I told you to?
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| 20:22 | netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:22 | <ltspuser_82> i have start vm machine
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| 20:22 | i trying
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| 20:22 | wait
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| 20:22 | <jammcq> hmm, first rule of asking for help... be prepared
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| 20:22 | <ltspuser_82> thx
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| 20:23 | man
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| 20:25 | <fabianofaria> saned[4479]: io/hpmud/pp.c 627: unable to read device-id ret=-1
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| 20:25 | <alkisg> Only that? No connection message anywhere?
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| 20:26 | <ltspuser_82> i run
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| 20:26 | sudo netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:26 | give me unable to resolve host ubunt
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| 20:27 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: sudo -i
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| 20:27 | <alkisg> fabianofaria: ok, another try: what happens if you run `scanimage > /tmp/image.pnm` locally on the client?
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| 20:27 | <fabianofaria> saned[4479]: scan/sane/soap.c 96: unable to load restricted library /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/bb_soap.so: /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/bb_soap.si: cannot open object file: No such file or directory
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| 20:28 | <jammcq> hmmmm
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| 20:28 | <ltspuser_82> is little slow
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| 20:29 | same masg
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| 20:29 | unable to resolve host ubunt
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| 20:31 | <jammcq> ok, you have a /etc/resolv.conf issue
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| 20:31 | or a DNS issue
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| 20:31 | <fabianofaria> One moment, please.
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| 20:31 | <ltspuser_82> i dont know man
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| 20:33 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: these are basic networking issues. not LTSP issues
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| 20:33 | <ltspuser_82> i open now
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| 20:33 | sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
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| 20:33 | i see
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| 20:33 | search domain.cc
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| 20:34 | coz my windows serve 2008 domian naam is domain.cc
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| 20:34 | i see only this
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| 20:34 | search domain.cc
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| 20:35 | in resolv.conf
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| 20:36 | <fabianofaria> Something strange happened now. I removed the USB cable from the client to change port, a message appeared when I stuck the cable again: usb 1-6: device descriptor read/64, error -71 usb 1-6: device not accepting address 24, error -71 usb 1-6: device not accepting address 25, error -71 hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6
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| 20:36 | <ltspuser_82> my nic card of VM ware machin is setup on Custom VMnet 6 same like ubuntu nic
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| 20:37 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: can you do: sudo -i
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| 20:37 | and get a '#' prompt
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| 20:38 | <ltspuser_82> should i type # prompt
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| 20:38 | like this
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| 20:38 | <jammcq> no
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| 20:38 | type: sudo -i
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| 20:38 | <ltspuser_82> by sudo -i
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| 20:38 | same answer
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| 20:38 | <jammcq> what answer?
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| 20:38 | <ltspuser_82> unable to reolve host ub
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| 20:39 | <jammcq> try: ping google.com
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| 20:39 | <ogra_> thats just a warning
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| 20:39 | shouldnt have any effect
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| 20:39 | (and it means that /etc/hosts disagrees with /etc/hostname)
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| 20:39 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: now type: netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:39 | <ltspuser_82> uknow host google.com
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| 20:40 | coz i dont put my NIC as Bridge
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| 20:40 | if i put NIC as birgde then may be it works
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| 20:40 | <jammcq> how did you install LTSP ?
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| 20:41 | ltspuser_82: now type: netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:41 | <ltspuser_82> sudo install LTSP
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| 20:41 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: now type: netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:41 | 2nd rule of asking for help... do what the helper says
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| 20:42 | <ltspuser_82> did it
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| 20:42 | <jammcq> 3rd rule... tell the helper what the result was
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| 20:42 | <ltspuser_82> nothing happen
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| 20:42 | <fabianofaria> the test you asked: scanimage> / tmp / `image.pnm, repeats the previous error.
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| 20:42 | I'll try another scanner, only to take a doubt. The company is closing for the day and I can not stay here alone. If it works, the problem may be with this equipment.
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| 20:42 | <jammcq> ltspuser_82: well... YOU HAVE TO TELL ME THAT !!!
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| 20:42 | how can I help you if you don't help me?
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| 20:43 | <ltspuser_82> i have install LSTP
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| 20:43 | agin
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| 20:43 | with internet connection
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| 20:43 | <jammcq> dhcpd is not configured
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| 20:43 | <ltspuser_82> its doen
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| 20:44 | netstat -anp | grep ":67 "
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| 20:44 | i type this code
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| 20:44 | but it shows nothing
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| 20:44 | <alkisg> fabianofaria: if the scanner doesn't work locally, it won't work over the network :) But maybe you're missing some libraries in the chroot... make it run locally on the client first
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| 20:44 | ltspuser_82: are you using ltsp, or are you just asking about dhcp configuration?
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| 20:45 | <ltspuser_82> dhcp configuration
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| 20:45 | <alkisg> Why don't you ask in your distribution channel then?
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| 20:45 | I think #ubuntu-server would be more appropriate...
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| 20:45 | ltsp is for booting linux clients without disks over the network
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| 20:46 | <ltspuser_82> hahaha funny
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| 20:46 | coz i thought i have install
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| 20:46 | for dhcp
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| 20:46 | i have no idea
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| 20:46 | <alkisg> No, you don't need to install ltsp to use dhcp
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| 20:46 | <ltspuser_82> i start on monday with this ubutu
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| 20:46 | that much that i learn
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| 20:47 | was from youtube
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| 20:47 | i almost configuer
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| 20:47 | but dhcp not working on window 7
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| 20:47 | <alkisg> There is online documentation in ubuntu wiki about configuring dhcp, google for that, or ask in #ubuntu-server
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| 20:47 | The ltsp instructions for configuring dhcp are different
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| 20:47 | <ltspuser_82> same crap
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| 20:47 | <alkisg> You don't want the ltsp instructions...
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| 20:48 | <ltspuser_82> i remove it
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| 20:48 | lstp
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| 20:48 | <fabianofaria> Yes, I agree. I will replace the scanner to eliminate the possibility of a problem with the equipment. Today we are ending the record here, return tomorrow with the results. Again thank you for your attention and promptness. Thank you!
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| 20:48 | <jammcq> fabianofaria: tchau
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| 20:49 | <fabianofaria> hehe, tchau!
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| 20:49 | <ltspuser_82> thnx guys
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| 20:49 | <jammcq> one of the 12 br-pt words I know :)
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| 20:50 | <fabianofaria> (laughs) You know more than I Portuguese English.
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| 20:50 | <jammcq> heh
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| 20:51 | <fabianofaria> I think the translation of the previous sentence was not cool.
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| 20:51 | <jammcq> I understood
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| 20:52 | <fabianofaria> ok bye!
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| 20:52 | <ogra_> geez ... what a day in #ltsp
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| 20:52 | * ogra_ doesnt think he ever saw jammcq shout here | |
| 20:53 | <jammcq> heh
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| 20:53 | well... it gets frustrating sometimes
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| 20:53 | <ogra_> yeah, definitely
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| 20:53 | <jammcq> how many times did I ask him to run the netstat cmd ?
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| 20:53 | <ogra_> often enough for sure
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| 20:54 | <jammcq> I understand that many times there's a language barrier
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| 20:54 | <ogra_> yeah
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| 20:54 | but this was a quite high one
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| 20:54 | <jammcq> but it seems so obvious that if someone asks you to run a command, you should tell them what the result was
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| 20:54 | <ogra_> more like the berlin wall, not like your neighbors fence
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| 21:00 | <alkisg> !socat
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| 21:00 | <ltsp> socat: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500; apt-get install socat; socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] apt-get install socat screen; socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1; exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:REMOTE-IP:5500 & screen -l -S ra
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| 21:02 | <ogra_> !sodog
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| 21:02 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'sodog', but I do know about these similar topics: 'sound', 'socat'
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| 21:02 | <ogra_> bah, only cat lovers here :P
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> !nodogs
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| 21:04 | <ltsp> nodogs: No dogs allowed in #ltsp
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| 21:04 | <alkisg> :D
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| 21:56 | <ogra_> haha
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