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| 17:23 | <alkisg> Heya foxhoundv, all ok?
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| 17:27 | <foxhoundv> alkisg Sorry for the delay yes, things are good except that I am so new to LTSP, I don't know how I can run sudo update /upgrade and the image retain it for a reboot
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| 17:35 | <foxhoundv> So whenever I reboot after installing packages like libreoffice, it doesn't keep them. It keeps what I place on the desktop but no installs
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| 17:39 | <alkisg> Are you doing this from the booted client?
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| 17:41 | To install programs in the raspbian chroot, you need the NFS_RW client
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| 17:41 | Or the chroot command
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| 17:48 | foxhoundv: in ltsp mode, / is temporary, while /home is always permanent
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| 17:51 | You can put ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf to select a client that will boot in nfs_rw mode
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| 17:54 | <foxhoundv> Yes I was doing it from the client and I did some digging and found out I couldn't really do that. So when I put ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/etc/ltsp/ltsp.conf, does it give me an option once booting up to choose?
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| 17:56 | So if I want to add users to the Raspbian Image, it would be the same way in nfs_rw mode
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| 18:00 | <alkisg> No you add users on the server
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| 18:01 | and then run `ltsp initrd`
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| 18:01 | There's no menu in raspberries while they boot
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| 18:13 | For example, if you had 20 clients you could have one in administrative mode all the time,
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| 18:14 | if you have 3 clients, you can put one in administrative mode once in a while, then comment it out again in ltsp.conf
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| 18:56 | <foxhoundv> Ok, so to make sure I have this correct, if I add ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac then the next client that boots up will become administrative? and then I remove the ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=mac and then boot the rest and they will be regular clients?
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| 18:58 | <mwalters> I'm thinking he meeds mac address of the client's network interface
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| 18:59 | means*
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| 18:59 | <alkisg> Wait let me check the exact syntax
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| 18:59 | [b8:27:eb:c4:a5:4a]
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| 18:59 | ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=1
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| 18:59 | This sets it for a single client
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| 19:00 | [clients]
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| 19:00 | ADMINISTRATIVE_CLIENT=1
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| 19:00 | This sets it for all clients, which should be "the next one to boot", as you don't want all of them booted in nfs-rw mode
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| 20:02 | <foxhoundv> alkisg in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/etc/ltsp/ there is no ltsp.conf file am I creating it?
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| 20:03 | there is one in /srv/ltsp/raspbian/usr/share/ltsp/common/ltsp
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| 20:11 | <alkisg> foxhoundv: yes, this ltsp.conf is just for the administrative client
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| 20:12 | <JuJUBee> alkisg, if I make changes to the server (install software or users) I need to run ltsp image / as root again?
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| 20:12 | <alkisg> users => ltsp initrd
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| 20:13 | software => ltsp image
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| 20:13 | But note that if you're using xfreerdp etc, then you don't need ltsp image
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| 20:13 | As it's remote desktop, not remote disk
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| 20:13 | Ah sorry didn't see that it was you, JuJUBee, I thought it was foxhoundv asking
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| 20:13 | So yeah ltsp image /
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| 20:14 | <JuJUBee> alkisg, lol, no worries
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| 20:14 | I decided to build a new LTSP server so I can use snap afterall.
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| 20:15 | <alkisg> I dont remember, was there something wrong with the old one wrt snap?
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| 20:16 | <JuJUBee> I don't recall what it was, but I was unable to install via snap for some reason... about 3 months ago we spoke. I am running a 2yr old ltsp install
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| 20:17 | <alkisg> Ah you had ltsp 5, ok
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| 20:17 | <JuJUBee> I have virtualized everything, so building a new server is fairly painless.
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| 20:17 | <alkisg> I thought you meant old ltsp 19 installation
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| 20:17 | Building a new server is always painless, even when it's not virtualized
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| 20:18 | I need about half an hour per school server :)
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| 20:18 | <JuJUBee> Yea, but isn't this what you do? I teach math, and manage a server or 2 as a side gig
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| 20:19 | I teach a few computer science classes in a room where I run ltsp.
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| 20:40 | alkisg, I use xubuntu, can I replace the login theme with the old one from ltsp? I like it better.
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| 20:41 | <alkisg> yeah that's what i do currently
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| 20:41 | The LDM themes no longer apply
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| 20:41 | You can use any lightdm theme
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| 20:41 | Now themes are more standarized, they're no longer ltsp-specific
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| 23:09 | <foxhoundv> alkisg so, quick question do you know if the x2go will force a student to login to kubuntu?
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| 23:12 | <map7> vagrantc: Is ltsp 20.01-1 in debian ltsp6?
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| 23:14 | <vagrantc> map7: ltsp 6 never happened, we switched to date based version numbers
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| 23:14 | <map7> cool, makes sense
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| 23:15 | <vagrantc> starting with ltsp 19.08, if i recall the first "new" version
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| 23:26 | <map7> vagrantc: Are there plans to backport that to debian "buster"?
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| 23:27 | <vagrantc> map7: i think it's a trivial backport
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| 23:27 | map7: so eventually i might get around to it
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| 23:27 | in fact, my first tests were just on buster :)
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| 23:28 | <map7> and did it work on buster well?
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| 23:28 | <vagrantc> for my limited testing, it worked quite nicely ... but i don't have any real-world deployments so ... :)
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| 23:29 | it's so absurdly easier to work with, in my opinion
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| 23:32 | <map7> I'm still on LTSP 5, but I'm moving from thin-client to fat-client.
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| 23:32 | I have one question, how do I locally mount a USB drive on fat-clients
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| 23:32 | I think I'm just missing some permissions or something
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| 23:34 | <vagrantc> it should be the same as with disk'ed machines
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| 23:34 | <map7> ok must just be a permissions thing then
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| 23:34 | <vagrantc> but there were some options to mount it using ltspfs ... been so many years since i used them
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| 23:44 | map7: you might want to search the manpage for lts.conf for LTSPFS related options
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| 23:45 | <map7> ok cheers
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| 23:46 | <vagrantc> or just switch to the new ltsp :)
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| 23:50 | <map7> yeah but I don't want to run debian "testing" on my production machine
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| 23:54 | <vagrantc> you can just install the ltsp package from testing and everything else from buster ... i'd estimate a 0.000013 % chance of issues
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| 23:54 | if you're changing to fat clients now, there is no reason to stick with ltsp5
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