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Channel log from 15 June 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:30 | <warren> anyone here for k12linux meeting?
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| 09:35 | <nadavkav> hi :-)
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| 09:41 | <warren> ok... if nobody else shows up then I'm going back to sleep.
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| 09:44 | <nadavkav> hi warren
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| 09:44 | it U and me :-)
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| 09:44 | <warren> do you have any questions?
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| 09:45 | <nadavkav> i have several servers with k12ltsp 4.2 on fc6 that i would like to upgrade this summer
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| 09:45 | <warren> what language do you use?
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| 09:45 | <nadavkav> i have upgraded our development server to fc8
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| 09:45 | <warren> (and keyboard layout)?
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| 09:45 | <nadavkav> (hebrew)
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| 09:46 | (hebrew)
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| 09:46 | <warren> ok, I think the main thing I have to fix for you is the keyboard layout bug
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| 09:46 | <nadavkav> it more then that...
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| 09:46 | it's KDE 4
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| 09:46 | <warren> more details
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| 09:46 | <nadavkav> it does not have kiosk tool
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| 09:47 | we lockdown the desktop for the users
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| 09:47 | <warren> OK, you might not be able to use it for now then.
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| 09:47 | I can't do anything about KDE personally.
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| 09:47 | <nadavkav> i know :-)
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| 09:47 | <warren> Have you talked with Fedora's KDE team?
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| 09:47 | <nadavkav> so i consider keeping the fc8 for now
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| 09:48 | it works great
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| 09:48 | no
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| 09:48 | directly with upstream
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| 09:48 | it appears i am amongst the few that uses kiosktool
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| 09:48 | and the framework under it
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| 09:49 | the framework is not production ready (i do not need the gui - kiosktool although it would be nice :-)
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| 09:49 | other then that the kde4 does not seem to be ready
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| 09:50 | how come their is no kde3 ? (never mined)
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| 09:50 | <warren> I'm not in the KDE team, you would have to ask them.
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| 09:50 | <nadavkav> do you use gnome ?
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| 09:50 | <warren> Yes
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| 09:50 | GNOME does have lockdown capabilities but it is poorly documented.
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| 09:50 | <nadavkav> and... is it possible to lock down the UI ?
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| 09:51 | <warren> yes
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| 09:51 | gconf options
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| 09:51 | <nadavkav> haaa
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| 09:51 | <warren> the last time I did it personally was with Fedora 1
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| 09:51 | I hate gconf
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| 09:51 | I actually hate GNOME
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| 09:51 | and I hate computers...
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| 09:51 | but anyway
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| 09:52 | <nadavkav> i see we share common grounds ;-)
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| 09:52 | <warren> nadavkav: ltsp on Fedora 8 is unofficial but it should work roughly equivalent to Fedora 9.
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| 09:52 | <nadavkav> other then they hebrew keyboard layous (that i installed on my own)
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| 09:52 | <warren> nadavkav: what did you do to set the keyboard layout?
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| 09:52 | <nadavkav> is their any thing else i should be aware of ?
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| 09:53 | <warren> nadavkav: btw, does the ldm login screen do right to left text?
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| 09:53 | <nadavkav> it was missing/missmatched so i got a correct one from debian
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| 09:53 | <warren> (I don't think we ever tested right to left in ldm.)
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| 09:53 | <nadavkav> but on fc9 and 8 it is ok
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| 09:54 | <warren> huh
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| 09:54 | <nadavkav> we use kdm
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| 09:54 | it's great !!!
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| 09:54 | <warren> oh, the keyboard layout problem might be only ldm...
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| 09:54 | <nadavkav> i disabled all the other ldms and "choose session"
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| 09:54 | btw
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| 09:54 | <warren> I don't use a non-US layout so I really don't know how that part works. I need to research it.
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| 09:55 | <nadavkav> i use PulseAudio client plugin for alsa to connect to Esd on the terminals
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| 09:55 | <warren> esd?
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| 09:55 | <nadavkav> i try to send this post to the k12osn list but i was rejected (for some unknown reason)
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| 09:55 | <warren> we don't even ship esd anymore
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| 09:55 | I don't control k12osn
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| 09:56 | <nadavkav> i thought u did , sorry
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| 09:56 | <warren> K12Linux uses pulseaudio on both the client and server
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| 09:56 | <nadavkav> i use old fc6 + esd on the terminals
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| 09:56 | <warren> pulseaudio sound works automatically for me
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| 09:56 | doesn't work for you?
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| 09:57 | <nadavkav> ltsp 4 does not have PA server on the terminals (as far as i can see)
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| 09:57 | <warren> oh
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| 09:57 | nadavkav: I haven't used LTSP 4 for years
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| 09:57 | nadavkav: maybe 4 or 5 years.
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| 09:58 | <nadavkav> can i use a new terminal's envirument from ltsp5 or debian iamges ? with ltsp 4 ?
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| 09:59 | <warren> you mean the /opt/ltsp/i386 chroot?
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| 09:59 | <nadavkav> yes
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| 09:59 | <warren> I have no idea.
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| 09:59 | <nadavkav> forgot the name for it
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| 09:59 | <warren> perhaps you should actually try it before asking questions?
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| 09:59 | <nadavkav> can i use ltsp5 without the security checks (SSL)
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| 09:59 | <warren> yes
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| 10:00 | * warren finds the option... | |
| 10:00 | <nadavkav> i will (next week)
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| 10:00 | thank you for you time :-)
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| 10:00 | <warren> in lts.conf you need LDM_DIRECTX=yes
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| 10:01 | login and password is still encrypted by ssh
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| 10:01 | but X isn't encrypted
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| 10:01 | <nadavkav> double thanks !
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| 10:02 | <nadavkav> after i install your latest ltsp5 this week... i will report to you :-)
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| 10:02 | especially on the hebrew layouts and rtl in general
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| 17:43 | <jkinney> hello
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| 17:43 | <jkinney> I'm looking for some guidance - on whether I actually need kiwi-ltsp or not.
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| 17:44 | my goal is to pxe boot a client into a ram-only filesystem, and then run only rdesktop.
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| 17:44 | Should I be looking to use kiwi-ltsp, or just pxe boot a live cd image.
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| 17:44 | ?
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| 18:35 | <learnlinux> hallo
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| 21:36 | <juanpaul> Hello, i'm setting ltsp 5 on gentoo, but i can't connect on ldminfod (port 9571), someone can help me about this?
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| 21:40 | <johnny> juanpaul, is it in your /etc/xinetd.d ?
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| 21:40 | and set to be allowed?
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| 21:40 | <juanpaul> johnny, yes, disabled = no
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| 21:41 | <johnny> and you restarted xinetd after that (i'm not truly sure if necessary.. but)
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| 21:42 | i hope you realize you are truly a beta tester in this regard.. you're the first person who isn't me to use it :)
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| 21:42 | really.. alpha tester..
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| 21:42 | <juanpaul> johnny, yes, it necessary reboot xinetd
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| 21:42 | johnny, i'm geting this from telnet to 9571: Connected to server.
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| 21:42 | Escape character is '^]'.
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| 21:42 | Connection closed by foreign host.
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| 21:42 | * johnny tries to remember the command | |
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| 21:48 | <johnny> i think that is normal
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| 21:48 | you probably have to send it a command right away on initialization
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| 21:48 | ldm does it via netcat
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| 21:49 | if i run ldminfod manually, all the correct info is returned
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| 21:50 | <juanpaul> johnny, locally i can connect via loopback interface but not with ethernet interface IP
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| 21:50 | <johnny> i get that message via loopback atm..
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| 21:51 | <juanpaul> maybe firewall?
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| 21:51 | <rjune> ogra: you about?
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| 21:51 | <juanpaul> #ldminfod returns ok
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| 21:51 | #telnet 127.0.0.1 9571 returns ok
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| 21:51 | <johnny> got anything in /etc/xinetd.conf
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| 21:51 | for only_from
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| 21:52 | <juanpaul> #telnet 192.168.0.253 9571 open and close connection
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| 21:52 | <johnny> yep.. that is prolly it
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| 21:52 | mine was default to my local network that i'm not even now..
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| 21:53 | that's not something we can do anything about.. needs to go in the docs .. when i get around to writing them
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| 21:54 | going to do a from scratch install again, and document the issues and put it in guidexml format , like all gentoo docs
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| 21:54 | juanpaul, ? does that do it for ya?
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| 21:54 | <juanpaul> johnny, here's the error: only_from = localhost
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| 21:54 | <johnny> yes
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| 21:54 | that's the default config
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| 21:54 | and we cannot modify it from ltsp-server scripts
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| 21:55 | so, change that to whatever you like.. either your network.. or just comment it out
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| 21:55 | up to you
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| 21:56 | i'll try to write some docs this week.. but if nothing else, i'll have some worthy docs by the 30th of next month :)
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| 21:56 | when i meet the other gentoo developer in person
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| 21:56 | vagrantc, you here?
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| 21:57 | my ubuntuish thin clients are multiplying visible floppy drives.. what can i do?
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| 21:57 | i tried deleting the stuff from /tmp.. but that won't let me, even as root
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| 21:57 | i see a bunch of question marks
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| 21:57 | you ever seen that on debian?
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| 22:02 | <juanpaul> johnny, i know that can't change system-wide configs
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| 22:03 | its mine lack of attention
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| 22:03 | <johnny> i gotta go for a bit
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| 22:03 | bbl
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| 22:03 | iif not, come back tomorrow
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