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Channel log from 18 March 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:19 | <oktioz_> Hi
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| 04:19 | I need help with LTSP, could someone help me?
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| 04:21 | anyone?
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| 04:23 | <elias_a> oktioz_: Shoot.
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| 04:24 | I will try to help.
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| 04:25 | <oktioz_> | |
| 04:25 | ok, so I warn you before, I am French, so sorry if my English is just bad
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| 04:25 | sorry ^^
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| 04:26 | <elias_a> Ok. I am a Finn.
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| 04:28 | <oktioz_> I installed LTSP Ubuntu 9.10 on my karmic koala, the DHCP server is launched, but when I launched my workstation, it got an IP, he loaded the files, and after black screen ... So there I am a little lost because it 2 days I try to run LTSP but I can not, then I reinstall ubuntu properly and I leave with a helper from 0
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| 04:31 | <elias_a> Have you tried several clients?
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| 04:31 | Different machines?
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| 04:32 | <oktioz_> no
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| 04:32 | I've just 1 client
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| 04:33 | by cons in another attempt the screen went to the login page but when I returned for a login and password, the server restarts, no way to connect
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| 04:34 | it told me something like: "server not responding"
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| 04:35 | | |
| 04:35 | and earlier I had a worry TFTP time out
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| 04:36 | <alkisg> oktioz_: let's take the problems one by one. What is the problem _now_?
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| 04:37 | <oktioz_> I am looking for someone to help me install my server step by step to learn
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| 04:38 | <oktioz_> I reinstall Ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala gnome desktop, properly
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| 04:39 | I already reinstalled
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| 04:46 | <elias_a> oktioz_: I would go totally the other way.
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| 04:46 | Use Ubuntu alternate cd to install the LTSP server.
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| 04:47 | Do not configure the system manually the first time you install a LTSP sever.
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| 04:47 | <oktioz_> I had thought too, only in the configuration (I think) chroot bin that has bugged, so I had to take the stage
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| 04:48 | <elias_a> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 04:48 | ^ That's the method I mean.
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| 04:49 | <oktioz_> Yes I ve make that
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| 04:50 | but nothing
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| 04:51 | <elias_a> oktioz_: What happens now when you try to boot up a client?
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| 04:52 | <oktioz_> nothing, since the facility was too much confusion, so I completely reinstalled ubuntu
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| 04:53 | <elias_a> Did you install the LTSP system during the installation, too?
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| 04:54 | <oktioz_> yes with F4, and I ve select "make a LTSP server"
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| 04:55 | excuse me, I misunderstood, not for this installation, I have not used the alternate cd
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| 04:56 | <elias_a> oktioz_: Ok. No wonder, then.
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| 04:56 | Would it be possible for you to install it again using the F4 method?
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| 04:57 | <oktioz_> yes it is normal that nothing happens, since nothing is installed, and justly, that's why I come to see is for you to help me do a clean install of LTSP , Will know that I do
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| 04:58 | ok no problem, I make that and I come back
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| 04:59 | When the CD is wonder that I want to use as ip 192.168.0.1 write right?
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| 05:02 | I think, elias_a I come back
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| 07:29 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 09:25 | <slava_dp> this will probably be a little off topic here, but maybe someone is able to answer.
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| 09:26 | which vnc variant would I use for a linux terminal server? I need it to launch a predefined X session on client connection, and to not have any authentication (free access for everyone in the LAN).
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| 09:50 | <CAN-o-SPAM> hi LTSP!
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| 12:12 | <jammcq> hey there
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| 12:42 | <highvoltage> hey jammcq
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| 12:52 | <laron> Should I be concerned or forwarned about anything when installing ltsp-server-standalone on a ubuntu 64 bit machine?
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| 12:58 | <laron> i assume not... but...
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| 12:59 | <abeehc> dhcp
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| 12:59 | ?
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| 12:59 | <laron> i wont be using it as a dhcp server
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| 12:59 | <abeehc> i don't think you want to install the standalone package then
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| 12:59 | <laron> ok, what in place?
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| 13:00 | <abeehc> just ltsp-server
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| 13:01 | <laron> and that is everyting ltsp-server-standalone without the dhcp server?
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| 13:01 | <abeehc> yeah
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| 13:01 | <laron> ok
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| 13:01 | <abeehc> it seems likely you'll need to build a 32bit chroot unless your clients are all 64 capable
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| 13:02 | i've never gone that route to this point
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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| 13:03 | <laron> yeah, they will be 32bit clients
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| 13:04 | will i need to do ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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| 13:04 | <abeehc> you'll wanna start with build-client as alkisg posted
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| 13:04 | i imagine
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| 13:05 | <laron> right but if i make a change
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| 13:05 | <abeehc> i think that's right yeah
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| 13:05 | <laron> will i need to update the image with the --arch parameters
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| 13:05 | ok
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| 14:14 | <abeehc> i kinda liked it when the local apps reflected their host in the titlebar.. not seeing the same behaviour in karmic backported 5.2
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| 14:18 | <stgraber> abeehc: that's because you run compiz
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| 14:18 | abeehc: compiz doesn't show the host in the titlebar
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| 14:21 | <abeehc> ahhh
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| 14:22 | ty
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| 14:22 | i think it's more accurate to say i've yet to get around to disabling compiz
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| 14:22 | <alkisg> !compiz
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| 14:22 | <ltspbot> alkisg: "compiz" :: if compiz is giving you problems, one way to disable it for all users is: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity
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| 14:22 | <abeehc> though i've also thought maybe my users would appreciate some shiny stuff
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| 14:22 | thank you
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| 14:39 | <puck1> Is anyone here using an ltsp cluster configuration? I only have about 100 ltsp clients across five servers but many of the clients are doing heavy graphic editing with GIMP or Blender and the load balancing idea sounds very good. Any problems I need to look out for?
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| 14:48 | <Lns> puck1: you might want to go for localapps instead of loadbalancing for that
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| 14:49 | clustering will do little for heavy graphic usage (which = heavy network usage), but localapps, if your clients can handle it, will run gimp locally instead of from the server
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| 14:51 | <puck1> Thanks
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| 14:51 | <Lns> np
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| 14:51 | <puck1> What about GlusterFS instead of NFS any possible benefits?
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| 14:52 | I mean for Home drive storage not comunication between thin client and server
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| 14:52 | <Lns> I wouldn't be the one to ask for that, my max client network is 35 clients =) I just have them use the same server
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| 14:53 | <puck1> I can run that many for regular apps. OO Firefox but not GIMP just too slow.
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| 14:56 | We are a school with about 250 users that need to be able to sign on to any box. All are TC. I need the best (fastest access) solution for access to central home drives. I have an NFS server directly (GIG crossover cable) connected to all my app servers. Is there a better way???
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| 15:30 | <puck1> We are a school with about 250 users that need to be able to sign on to any box. All are TC. I need the best (fastest access) solution for access to central home drives. I have an NFS server directly (GIG crossover cable) connected to all my app servers. Is there a better way???
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| 15:35 | <vagrantc> puck1: please be patient. people will respond when they can.
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| 15:42 | <jhutchins_lt> puck1: Usually it's polite to wait until your query has at least scrolled off-screen.
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| 16:03 | <Lns> puck1: I don't see much you can do besides maybe a RAID5 or something like that to speed up disk access...are you really writing THAT fast to users' homes?
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| 16:10 | <kusznir> puck1: You should be fine with just an NFS server...might want to google a bit on NFS tuning and such. Also, as Lns said, might want to go with RAID5 (preferably hardware raid, such as the 3ware cards), espicially if this is user data that you don't want to loose (RAID5 will allow you to tolerate one disk failure without data loss while also improving disk I/O performance)
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| 16:12 | <Lns> ...and if it really comes down to it you could do some sort of redundant/dual/cluster nfs server thingie, which i've never done or even thought of before
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| 16:12 | <kusznir> puck1: just read higher up the screen..If your issue is with graphic loads, then the user homedirectory won't effect things much..your bottlenecks are network, and (at least with some graphical apps), the way they do their X stuff.
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| 16:13 | We have an issue where when users run Inkscape, it takes minutes to load the main window. Its not disk I/O bound anywhere, nor is it CPU bound. And, as best as we can tell, its not net bound (at least, we've given it a free and clear Gig-E connection, and it doesn't make a difference). That would be something to run local if possible, or consider using NX.
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| 17:02 | <kusznir> Who was it that I should ask about NX integration?
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| 17:55 | <Lns> puck1: oh, also, if you really need extra bandwidth on your nfs server, check out network bonding
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| 17:56 | <Lns> puck1: I've done that on my servers and it seems to help =) I made a wiki page a long time ago that's probably still relevant - http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php?id=networkbondingubuntu804
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| 18:01 | <vagrantc> n
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| 21:16 | <epaphus> Hello all. I just found out that Intel Dual Atom Motherbaord wit built in CPU.. the famous internet centric cheap solution from intle with RealTek 8111C doesnt come with PXE support.. is there any product similar i can buy that does?
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| 21:16 | this is the erfect motherbaord + cpu.. its so sad it doesnt have PXE (no i dont want to do gpxe)
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| 21:18 | (that was a 1gbit NIC)
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| 21:19 | Mobo is D945GCLF2
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| 22:05 | <johnny> you would have to use a floppy/cd/usb key
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| 22:05 | or buy a rom for it..
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| 22:05 | <epaphus> johnny, where do i buy a rom for it?
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| 22:05 | <johnny> i have no idea
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| 22:05 | <epaphus> how easy is that?
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| 22:05 | <johnny> maybe they don't cell phone
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| 22:06 | err sell one
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| 22:06 | no idea
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| 22:06 | better to just use a usb/floppy/cd
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| 22:06 | or buy a new network card
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| 22:06 | definitely cheaper
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| 22:06 | <epaphus> i can buy a new network card. Where?
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| 22:06 | which one
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| 22:06 | :)
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| 22:06 | <johnny> i don't know
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| 22:06 | pick one
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| 22:06 | that comes with pxe
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| 22:06 | <epaphus> in newegg.com only 3 have PXE
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| 22:06 | thats hilarious
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| 22:07 | <johnny> just use a usb key..
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| 22:07 | much cheaper
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| 22:08 | <epaphus> i could use a sd card.. thats more feasable
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| 22:08 | a 2GB one
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| 22:08 | <johnny> if your mobo has sd card booting support..
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| 22:08 | probably doesn't..
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| 22:08 | <epaphus> damn
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| 22:08 | i thought it saw it as a regular USB
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| 22:08 | <johnny> you won't know until you try
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| 22:08 | who knows
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| 22:08 | i have no experience
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