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Channel log from 1 February 2016 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:59 | <alkisg> !syslog
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| 06:59 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'syslog', but I do know about these similar topics: 'rsyslog'
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| 06:59 | <alkisg> !rsyslog
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| 06:59 | <ltsp> rsyslog: To enable remote client logging in Ubuntu (it possibly also works on Debian), see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/697387/comments/9
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| 11:23 | <Vervelak> ltsp socat
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> !socat
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| 11:24 | <ltsp> socat: One way to share a console with a remote person is: [local pc] forward port 5500; apt-get install socat; socat tcp-listen:5500,keepalive=1 stdio,raw,echo=0 [remote pc] apt-get install socat screen; socat SYSTEM:"sleep 1; exec screen -xRR ra",pty,stderr tcp:REMOTE-IP:5500 & screen -l -S ra
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| 11:24 | <alkisg> :)
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| 12:30 | <Vervelak> @alkisg Thanks :)
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| 15:51 | <rkwesk> fresh install of Debian Stretch amd64 on the server with lxde and then added ltsp-server-standalone and dnsmasq
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| 15:51 | then edited /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf and replaced all instances of amd64 with i386.
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| 15:52 | updated and then edited /etc/ltsp/ltsp-server.conf to have ARCH=”i386” and DIST=”wheezy”
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| 15:53 | then edited /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf to have ARCH=”i386” and DIST=”wheezy”
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| 15:53 | ltsp-build-client (without parameters)
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| 15:56 | So at last my question resulted in a chroot with a minimal wheezy i386 without xorg and without lxde. Should I not have created /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-client.conf?
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| 15:58 | I know I can add whatever to a chroot afterwards. Just curious why no xorg
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| 16:00 | <Hyperbyte> rkwesk, I think you can just do ltsp-build-client --arch=i386
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| 16:00 | Not entirely sure about that.
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| 16:00 | <rkwesk> so no conf file?
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| 16:02 | <Hyperbyte> rkwesk, I have no idea. I've never used Debian, but I've also never edited any config prior to building an ltsp chroot
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| 16:02 | <rkwesk> ltsp-build-client did create i386 Wheezy as desired. It just did not include xorg nor lxde
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| 17:53 | <alkisg> rkwesk: don't put DISK in ltsp-build-client.conf, pass it in the command line like --dist
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| 17:54 | Sorry, DIST, not DISK
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| 17:54 | The code there gets confused with DIST in the .conf file
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| 18:34 | <rkwesk> this alone accounts for ltsp-build-client not including xorg when in fact Wheezy was indeed installed?
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| 18:43 | As the only two parameters I put into ltsp-build-client.conf were DIST and ARCH it seems alkisg is telling me not to create this conf file at all. vagrantc, what say you?
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| 18:46 | I am hoping to update the wiki to include Stretch once I have understood this process better.
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| 18:47 | <vagrantc> i wouldn't create ltsp-build-client.conf unless you have to
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| 18:47 | * vagrantc would have thought wheezy would include xorg by default | |
| 18:48 | <vagrantc> it's been a long time since ltsp-build-client did anything much other than installing ltsp-client and a kernel
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| 18:48 | rkwesk: please file a bug
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| 18:48 | <rkwesk> so thought I yet to my surprise...
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| 18:50 | I always shy away from bug filing lest my own mistake is really at fault. However, here you two are confirming the bug.
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| 18:50 | <alkisg> rkwesk: if you can reproduce it with --dist XXX instead of putting to a .conf file, then file a bug about that xorg thing
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| 18:50 | otherwise I don't think it's worth it to file a bug about DIST not working correctly inside a .conf file, i don't think that it's a documented feature that's supposed to work...
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| 18:50 | <rkwesk> I will try a few variations and see
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| 18:51 | <alkisg> vagrantc: heya, the days for 16.04 feature freeze come closer, I think we/you should tag a new release soonish... :)
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| 18:52 | I couldn't reproduce the systemd shutdown issue in 16.04
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| 18:53 | <rkwesk> the purpose of ltsp-build-client.conf with accompanying documented features is what, exactly?
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| 18:53 | <alkisg> To have a smaller command line in ltsp-build-client :)
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| 18:54 | <vagrantc> alkisg: yeah, let's do it!
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| 18:54 | <rkwesk> it seems a small role indeed
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| 18:54 | <alkisg> E.g. you can have a list of packages to install there, or some custom ppas + keys...
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| 18:54 | <vagrantc> rkwesk: well, i think it's worth filing a bug, that shouldn't happen.
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| 18:54 | <alkisg> ltsp-build-client parameters can be specified in a .conf file, or in the environment, or in the command line
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| 18:55 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i'll update my setup and see if i still get the hang issue
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| 18:56 | <alkisg> vagrantc: cool, ping me if you still have it, I'll try to update my stretch vm and try it there then
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| 18:56 | <rkwesk> aha, so a workaround meanwhile might be to include xorg and desktop choice as a list of packages?
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| 18:56 | <alkisg> No, I wouldn't say that
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| 18:57 | If you can reproduce it without a .conf file, tell me to debug it
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| 18:57 | No need to search for weird workarounds
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| 18:57 | <rkwesk> alkisg, agreed
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| 18:57 | <alkisg> Including a desktop is always an option for fat clients though
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| 18:57 | <vagrantc> rkwesk: i would 1000 times prefer a bug report to a workaround
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| 18:58 | * vagrantc wishes people wouldn't be so afraid of filing bugs | |
| 18:58 | <vagrantc> i'd rather 3 bogus bugs than 1 unreported bug
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| 18:58 | <rkwesk> oh yes, vagrantc, I agree. I was just exploring the thinking to do here
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| 18:58 | * alkisg waves, later! | |
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| 19:01 | <rkwesk> I am cautious and unverified bug reporting seems counter productive. However, in this case I will press on.
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| 19:02 | <vagrantc> it is harder to verify a bug if it is not reported
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| 19:03 | <rkwesk> I recall that when I used 64bit Jessie to create Wheezy i386 ther was no such behavior. I'll double check these variations before filing. :))
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| 19:05 | Stretch is still a moving target so I hope to help you get it right. :))
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| 19:06 | <vagrantc> try, try again
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| 19:07 | it's not uncommon for me to make uploads during the freeze to fix a bug or two ... which isn't until november.
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| 19:07 | but i do try to keep it working most of the release cycle
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| 19:08 | <rkwesk> Alkis has said that the Ubuntu standard ltsp is buggy and he has a newer edition in his ppa. Does this correspond to what you have in Stretch?
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| 19:09 | <rkwesk> ltsp 5.5.5?
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| 19:11 | <vagrantc> it's much older than what's in stretch, though strtch has some bugs... i will be uploading a newer version soon
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| 19:11 | and then alkisg_away will likely sync it from debian
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| 19:14 | <rkwesk> ok I will get cracking then to verify this bug. Yhank you for the tireless work. :))
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