IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 14 September 2013   (all times are UTC)

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07:11
<matthias_android>
My ubuntu fat clients do not power off theirselfs when i shut them down. How can i fix that?
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08:05
<matthias_android>
My ubuntu fat clients do not power off theirselfs when i shut them down. How can i fix that?
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08:26
<monkwitdafunk>
Power off all clients i guess
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08:40
<alkisg>
If you get root access in the fat clients, and run `poweroff -fp`, do they shut off?
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08:44
<monkwitdafunk>
I think power management is independent from software. Power makes the cpu run with the operating system such as a dhcp server
08:46
Now curruption of a file server is the stability test which points you to if basic functions are done such as defrag. Reboot. Network.
08:47
One way to reboot is hotkeys if your keyboard isnt flashing
08:47
You might.want to program.your own as well
08:48
Idk if.you want to...
08:49
Curruption of filesystem*******
08:51
Yeah so with filesystems, you want them to be organized for you to operate
08:51
Unorganized systems can be a sign of malware
08:55
<matthias_android>
alkisg: it depends on the computer. My laptop power off normaly but workstations remain on.
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09:17
<alkisg>
matthias_android: yes, it's probably a known ltsp bug, that's why I'm asking what happens when you issue that command
09:18
<matthias_android>
Im not at school sry. But is that a fix?
09:18
<alkisg>
No, it's a way to check that this is the bug that affects you. If it is, there are workarounds.
09:29
<matthias_android>
Let me ask. If poweroff -pf works the bug affects me? What would be the workaround?
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13:56
<markit>
!seen alkisg
13:56
<ltsp>
alkisg was last seen in #ltsp 4 hours, 37 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <alkisg> No, it's a way to check that this is the bug that affects you. If it is, there are workarounds.
13:57
<markit>
hi Phantomas
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18:18
<gp_>
Is there a screen script for a web browser? I want one of my terminals to boot into a web browser that shows a specific web page
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<alkisg>
!kiosk-lucid
18:26
<ltsp>
kiosk-lucid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/572974
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18:33
<gp_>
thank you alkisg looking at that now
18:33
<alkisg>
gp_: in other words, there's a kiosk plugin, which usually works, but you might bump into some issues..
18:33
<gp_>
oh
18:34
Can I not use a screen script? Like for some of my machines that use freerdp it just opens up to freerdp on Screen 6
18:34
I don't really want a kiosk
18:35
It is to show a status page on a monitor.
18:35
I was thinking I would target the machine by mac address and change the default screen
18:38
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RdesktopScreenScript says "This approach is obviously not limited to rdesktop" so I took that to mean I could do it with other programs
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18:49
<alkisg>
gp_: the kiosk mode is a screen script that shows a browser, i.e. what you're asking for
18:50
<gp_>
Oh. I misunderstood when you said it was a plugin that I needed to install
18:50
I actually see a kiosk screen script in my screen.d directory now that you mention it
18:51
Is there a documentation page for configuring it?
18:52
<alkisg>
Documentation is really poor for the kiosk more... try some googling or read the script, maybe it has a few comments
18:52
<gp_>
okay... will do. thanks for pointing me in the right direction
18:57
How does the xfreerdp script get around not requiring user permissions but the kiosk screen script requires me to create a user named "ltspkiosk"?
18:57
<alkisg>
xfreerdp runs as root, while the browser is considered more sensitive and the devs decided to create a user there
18:58
<gp_>
okay that makes sense
18:58
well it looks like firefox is installed an the kiosk script is there. going to give it a whirl
19:00
<alkisg>
I think it also needs a window manager... devilspie or something
19:00
Or that's for making firefox fullscreen? I don't remember :)
19:01
<gp_>
okay
19:12
client logs are stored on the server are they? just getting an error message on the monitor saying resolution out of range when I swap to the kiosk screen
19:13
<alkisg>
No, that would be in the client's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
19:14
Or just get local X access and run xrandr...
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20:51
<gp_>
I got disconnected earlier and it wiped my chat history. Can you link that bug again?
20:51
!kiosk
20:51
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'kiosk', but I do know about these similar topics: 'kiosk-lucid'
20:51
<gp_>
!kiosk-lucid
20:51
<ltsp>
kiosk-lucid: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/572974
20:52
<alkisg>
!irclogs
20:52
<ltsp>
irclogs: This channel is logged, archives are available at http://irclogs.ltsp.org
20:52
<gp_>
thanks
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21:00
<gp_>
So I am getting "fatal server error: Invalid argument for -config with elevated priviledges, the file specified with -config must be a relative path and must not contain any ".." elements. Using default xorg.conf search path.
21:00
xinit: unable to connect to X server: No such file or directory
21:01
a little confused. It doesn't seem to be the bug that you linked. And the ldm screen works
21:12
<alkisg>
Sorry the bug link wasn't something that you needed to fix, it's already fix-released,
21:13
I just pointed to it because there's no documentation for kiosk, as a starting point to see where the scripts etc are,
21:13
<gp_>
Ah gotcha
21:13
<alkisg>
the xorg bug is another one, it needs an absolute path, you might need to edit the sources to solve it, I haven't checked the kiosk plugin
21:13
'night all
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22:05
<matthias_android>
Has somebody got experiences about SMART Notebook 11 on Fat Clients???
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22:22
<monkwitdafunk>
Ask if the smart notebook can pxe boot or figure out a way to use it to serve dhcp
22:23
There are also other software designs controling hardware but im talking about booting over a network
22:25
Im not sure how ltsp controls hardware such as the dhcp server to be the memory of a thin client sound card
22:27
You dont need the internet to network boot
22:27
All you need is an ethernet cables NICs
22:28
Wouldnt that be sooo crazy for mass recording?
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