IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 8 January 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:03 | <dberkholz> jammcq: still around?
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| 03:53 | <Capricorn^800> any expert there ?
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| 03:54 | i have some issues to discuss regarding mouting of usb
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| 04:03 | <envite> Hello all from Spain
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| 04:03 | Hola a todos desde España
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| 05:44 | <budgee> hi
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| 05:44 | anyone home?
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| 05:47 | <cliebow_> budgee:catch you in a bit
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| 05:51 | <envite> budgee: ask, i'll try to answer
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| 05:51 | <budgee> hey
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| 05:51 | i need to get an AMD LX based terminal working
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| 05:52 | I need to build the AMD drivers into the kernel
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| 05:52 | Any ideas where I start?
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| 05:53 | envite: Can't seem to find many documentation out there.
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| 05:53 | envite: The AMD LX platform is a pretty stable common thing?
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| 05:54 | envite: The Video works fine with the VESA driver but what I really need is to get the sound working.
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| 05:55 | <budgee> envite: Any ideas?
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| 05:57 | <cliebow_> budgee:might get a pci id for the sound card..see what you got..
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| 06:04 | <budgee> cliebow_: I will get it now
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| 06:05 | cliebow_: Aduio is CS5536
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| 06:08 | <budgee> cliebow_: You there? The Audio device is a CS5536 from the AMD Geode LX platform
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| 06:13 | <cliebow_> budgee:just booking for work..bbiab
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| 06:26 | <budgee> Anyone there?
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| 06:58 | <budgee> Anyone able to help with getting AMD LX platform working?
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| 08:39 | <budgee> hello?
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| 08:41 | <jammcq> yo
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| 08:42 | <ogra> budgee,
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| 08:42 | ogra@edubuntu:~/packages/libflashsupport-1.0-2219$ modinfo cs5535|grep description
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| 08:42 | description: PCI driver module for AMD/NS CS5535 IDE
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| 08:42 | thats likely to work with the 5536 as well ... check if its loaded
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| 08:44 | hmm, no, it should be snd-cs5535audio
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| 08:45 | so check for that one
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| 08:46 | <jammcq> hey ogra
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| 08:46 | <ogra> yo jammcq
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| 08:46 | just playing with pulse integration ... :)
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| 08:46 | <jammcq> remember that idea about offering a tarball of Ubuntu ltsp ?
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| 08:47 | I figure it's time to do it
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| 08:48 | is there still a tarball I can grab?
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| 08:50 | <ogra_> meh
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| 08:50 | jammcq, whats the last line you got from me ?
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| 08:50 | <jammcq> about playing with pulse
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| 08:50 | <ogra_> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp-tarballs/ltsp-tarball-20060211.tgz is the most recent one
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| 08:50 | its the edgy version
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| 08:50 | <jammcq> cool
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| 08:50 | i'll grab it now
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| 08:51 | <ogra_> i'm behind on ppc, sorry
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| 08:51 | <jammcq> as I understand it, anybody could take that image and install it on any distro
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| 08:51 | <ogra_> and i'm nit sure how far i can go with it now that we drop ppc
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| 08:51 | <jammcq> and once they do that, they could 'chroot /opt/ltsp/i386'
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| 08:51 | <ogra_> right
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| 08:51 | <jammcq> and do 'apt-get update && apt-get instal blah-blah-blah' ?
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| 08:51 | <ogra_> but you also need ltsp-update-kernels and ltsp-update-sshkeys
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| 08:51 | on the server side
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| 08:52 | we need to package that as well
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| 08:52 | <jammcq> but.... will those actually work on any server?
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| 08:52 | they are built for Ubuntu, no?
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| 08:52 | <ogra_> its only scripts so it should ,,,, but it assumes some stuff like /var/lib/tftpboot ...
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| 08:53 | so for distros using /tftpboot it sont work ...
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| 08:53 | <jammcq> I'm thinking we'll just need the kernel tarballs too
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| 08:53 | <ogra_> *wont
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| 08:53 | no
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| 08:53 | you have the kernel in the tarball
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| 08:53 | <jammcq> in which tarball? the big one?
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| 08:53 | <ogra_> you just need to copy it and create the pxe config
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| 08:53 | yeah
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| 08:53 | <jammcq> oh
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| 08:53 | where does the initramfs get built?
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| 08:53 | <ogra_> in /boot as in every ubuntu system
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| 08:54 | in the chroot during build
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| 08:54 | <jammcq> ah, so the kernel + initramfs is already there?
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| 08:54 | <ogra_> with the special parameters for ltsp clients
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| 08:54 | yeah and properly configured
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| 08:54 | <jammcq> 'ltsp-update-kernels' just puts things in the right places ?
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| 08:54 | <ogra_> all you need server sided are PXE or nbi ... and the setup
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| 08:55 | <jammcq> "the setup" ?
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| 08:55 | <ogra_> it calls mknbi ... and creates the PXE config
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| 08:55 | the config ....
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| 08:55 | <jammcq> ok
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| 08:56 | <ogra_> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/ltsp/mainline/server/ltsp-update-kernels
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| 08:56 | its a trivial script
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| 08:56 | <jammcq> I see
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| 08:57 | not so bad at all
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| 08:57 | <ogra_> for an upstream i386 only variant it will be five lines or so ...
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| 08:57 | <jammcq> so.... Ubuntu has dropped PPC ?
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| 08:57 | <ogra_> well, officially
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| 08:57 | ppc will go on as community supported port
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| 08:57 | <jammcq> hmmm
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| 08:57 | <ogra_> but not officially anymore
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| 08:58 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview
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| 09:00 | as long as my ibook works i'll go on with ppc development in my spare time (if i find some :P ) but beyond that i'm not sure ...
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| 09:01 | i think thats the general attitude in the development team ...
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| 09:01 | <jammcq> it actually makes sense to me that they've dropped it
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| 09:01 | <ogra_> so it wont disappear as long as the HW of people works :)
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| 09:01 | <ogra_> but there is no official port anymore ...
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| 09:01 | and i know cliebow will cry ....
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| 09:02 | * ogra_ goes on to fiddle with http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:Additional_Interface_Support_for_Linux#Requirements | |
| 09:03 | <ogra_> why cant they just opensource their licenses and make my life easier :(
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| 09:05 | <g333k_work> hello, I can use the same configuration files of ltsp 4.2 for ltsp 5 right? I mean /etc/hosts, /etc/dhcp.conf, etc etc ?
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| 09:05 | <cliebow> why am i to cry???
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| 09:06 | <ogra> cliebow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCReview
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| 09:06 | <cliebow> g333k_work:dhcpd.conf will be in /etc/ltsp
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| 09:07 | ogra:to betruthful i hate the little bastuds..its just what i have to weork with
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| 09:08 | <ogra> well, we'll drop them officially with feisty ...
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| 09:08 | but kepp them as community driven port (as long as enough devs elp out)
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| 09:08 | <cliebow> ogra: stands to reaspn
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| 09:11 | <g333k_work> cliebow, what about the /etc/dhcp3dhcp.conf file?
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| 09:13 | <ogra> in ubuntu and debian its overridden by /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf if you use ltsp ...
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| 09:13 | so if you have an old backup you want to use, copy it there ...
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| 09:13 | and ignore /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf
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| 09:14 | <g333k_work> ogra, where do I configure what interface I'm gonna use for ltsp? I mean something like the old ltspadmin?
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| 09:14 | ogra, And to see if all the daemons are working ok?
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| 09:15 | <ogra> you use your distro tools for the services/daemons ... i.e. services-admin in ubuntu ...
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| 09:16 | (feisty or feisty+1 will have upstart integration so you will have an ltsp initscript then, that will mae such stuff way more comfortable)
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| 09:17 | for the interface, the one you configured in your dhcpd.conf and in /etc/network/inetrfaces will be used ...
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| 09:18 | i.e. dhcpd will autoselect the on where it finds a network config for in dhcpd.conf and ignore all others
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| 09:20 | <g333k_work> ok
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| 09:56 | <efra> Morning everybody
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| 10:18 | <g333k_work> Ohh god!, my ltsp server started swapping a lot again! the hard disk doesnt stop working, and it seems to be freezed
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| 10:34 | <g333k_work> Now I added 512M more of RAM, now that I have 2G of RAM, how much swap do I have to set?
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| 11:19 | <mrlinux> is there any reason that you guys can think of why going through a switch wont work but a lan/hub will
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| 12:37 | <yhan> hi how hard is it to have the sound functionning properly with ltsp and ubuntu breezy ?
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| 13:00 | <cliebow> PMantis: dont suppose you know if anyone has a package.def for pulsesudio?
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| 13:30 | <mrlinux> need help with restarting my dhcp for LTSP
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| 13:31 | <mistik1> what's the problem
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| 13:32 | <mrlinux> when i try to boot my clients they recieve no pxe or bootp offers
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| 13:32 | i tosted one of my nics somehow so i installed a new one
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| 13:33 | <mistik1> what does the server logs say
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| 13:33 | <mrlinux> and i redited the dhcp file and gave it a static ip and restarted it
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| 13:33 | how do i get them
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| 13:33 | <mistik1> /var/log/messages is one
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| 13:33 | tail /var/log/messages
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| 13:36 | <mrlinux> root@Thinserver:/home/mrlinux# /var/log/messages
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| 13:36 | bash: /var/log/messages: Permission denied
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| 13:36 | <mistik1> its a file
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| 13:36 | <mrlinux> ah
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| 13:36 | <mistik1> tail -f /var/log/messages
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| 13:36 | while trying to connect
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| 13:37 | <mrlinux> ok one sec
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| 13:39 | <mrlinux> can i paste it in here
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| 13:40 | root@Thinserver:/home/mrlinux# tail -f /var/log/messages
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| 13:40 | Jan 8 12:17:14 Thinserver gconfd (mrlinux-4394): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4
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| 13:40 | paste bot wouldn't load
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| 13:41 | <mistik1> how many lines
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| 13:41 | no more than 3 lines here please
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| 13:42 | <mrlinux> paste bot wouldn't load
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| 13:46 | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/861/
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| 13:54 | <mrlinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/861/
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| 13:55 | <deep-blue> hi
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| 13:56 | after editing lts.conf I should propably restart something... process or computer... so what should I do to get the changes i have made activated
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| 13:57 | so, should i restart clients or do something to the server
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| 13:58 | <mrlinux> deep-blue where is the lts.conf
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| 14:00 | <deep-blue> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
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| 14:00 | so maybe i should restart clients
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| 18:22 | <yhan_> hi
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| 18:22 | I'm trying to setup sound in my ltsp ubuntu, but sound is playing on the server
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| 18:22 | I have set sound_daemon = esd, and sound = true in lts.conf
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| 18:22 | what could be wrong ?
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| 18:23 | I'm running breezy
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| 18:23 | <jammcq> sound isn't supported in breezy
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| 18:23 | although ogra may be able to tell you what you need to do, to make it work
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| 18:24 | <ogra> hmm, i think sound is rupported in breezy ... let me look
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| 18:24 | <jammcq> breezy ltsp ?
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| 18:24 | <yhan_> yes
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| 18:24 | <jammcq> I thought you only got it working in dapper
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| 18:25 | <ogra> i'm not sure, i need to pull the bzr branch to check ... takes a minute
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| 18:26 | <yhan_> np
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| 18:26 | <jammcq> yhan_: ogra is the guy who knows this stuff better than anyone
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| 18:26 | <yhan_> cool
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| 18:26 | btw ltsp is awesome
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| 18:27 | <ogra> in any case the variables should be capitalized in lts.conf ....
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| 18:27 | <yhan_> I could not believe what I saw, setup a diskless and term server in a few commands
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| 18:27 | <jammcq> :)
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| 18:27 | <ogra> and SOUND_DAEMON was in all implementations esd, so no need to set that ...
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| 18:27 | SOUND=True sould suffice
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| 18:27 | <yhan_> even the values ?
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| 18:28 | [Default]
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| 18:28 | SOUND = True
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| 18:28 | SOUND_DAEMON = esd
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| 18:28 | NETWORK_COMPRESSION = True
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| 18:28 | that's the exact content of my lts.conf
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| 18:28 | <ogra> that looks fine ... even though breezy surely didnt have NETWORK_COMPRESSION
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| 18:29 | grmbl ... bzr doesnt like me ...
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| 18:29 | <yhan_> terminal is rebooting
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| 18:30 | the local sound board is enabled,
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| 18:30 | btw if esd is enabled I should be able to do a telnet termip 16001 from an another computer, right ?
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| 18:31 | <ogra> ah, i created the sound branch on dec 12 2005 ... breezy was released in october ...
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| 18:31 | so i fear you wont get sound in breezy without big effort
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| 18:32 | <yhan_> ok you're giving me necessary kick in my ass to migrate my machine to dapper :)
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| 18:32 | <ogra> no, take edgy :)
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| 18:32 | ltsp made a quantum jump between edgy and dappe
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| 18:32 | <yhan_> that machine is the last one running breeze
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| 18:32 | <ogra> *dapper
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| 18:32 | <yhan_> great
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| 18:32 | one last question
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| 18:33 | mythclient over ltsp, is it usable ?
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| 18:33 | <jammcq> search google for 'myth ltsp'
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| 18:33 | people have done it
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| 18:33 | with Ubuntu's ltsp, it should be even easier
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| 18:34 | <yhan_> perfect !
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| 18:34 | thanks for you help guys !!
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| 18:34 | greatly appreciated
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| 18:34 | <jammcq> the trick is, you want to run the myth client ON the thin client
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| 18:34 | <yhan_> local app
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| 18:34 | <ogra> yeah, i bought a new TV set for christmas ... with VGA-in ... i'll soon write a plugin for mythtv so you can just install ltsp with --myth-client option in the future and ahave y living room thin-client media center
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| 18:35 | <yhan_> I'll check for that, I don't have my real thinclients hardware yet
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| 18:35 | I've been running mythtv for 2 years
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| 18:35 | <ogra> get one from disklessworkstations.com
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| 18:35 | <yhan_> mythtv is great
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| 18:35 | do you know solarpc ? from solarpc.com ?
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| 18:36 | anyway I have to go, thanks again
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| 18:36 | <ogra> nope
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| 18:36 | <yhan_> solarpc is a bit cheaper
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| 18:36 | thanks for the link
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| 18:36 | bye bye
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| 18:36 | <ogra> quite bug cases for a thin client
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| 18:36 | ciao :)
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| 21:40 | <boog> exit
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| 21:40 | quit
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| 21:40 | bye
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