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| 04:16 | <gdi2k> I am using the dnsmasq method of booting LTSP (I have another DHCP server). Since I upgraded the chroot kernel to saucy (needed for newer hardware), the dnsmasq method does not work. I am getting same as this: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-users/2013-11/msg00561.html
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| 04:19 | logs show dnmasq-dhcp to be doing what it is supposed to
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| 07:05 | <gdi2k_> further to my last message - if I boot from a regular DHCP server and it passes on all the boot options to the client, the clients boot. but if I boot using dnsmasq it fails, so dnsmasq must be passing wrong parameters. any ideas?
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| 07:09 | <work_alkisg> It fails and it goes to busybox?
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| 07:10 | <gdi2k_> alkisg, yes correct
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| 07:10 | <alkisg> gdi2k_: at busybox, cat /run/net-eth0.conf
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| 07:10 | <gdi2k_> k
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| 07:10 | <alkisg> See the parameters that ipconfig got from dhcp there
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| 07:10 | <gdi2k_> thanks
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| 07:10 | <alkisg> Try to find out what went wrong
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| 07:23 | <gdi2k_> alkisg, doesn't seem to exist - no such file of directory
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| 07:23 | *or
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| 07:23 | <alkisg> gdi2k_: ls /run/*.conf /tmp/*.conf
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| 07:35 | <gdi2k_> alkisg, http://i.imgur.com/CVF6faW.jpg
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| 07:35 | <alkisg> gdi2k_: aufs?!
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| 07:36 | Which distro/version is that?
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| 07:36 | <gdi2k_> 12.04
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| 07:36 | Ubuntu
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| 07:36 | (Xubuntu)
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| 07:36 | <alkisg> Also check /tmp/*.conf
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| 07:36 | <gdi2k_> k
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| 07:36 | <alkisg> You only tried /run there
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| 07:37 | Finally, do: cat /proc/cmdline
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| 07:42 | <prem> hi all
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| 07:46 | Hi all , am trying to boot thin client from a Spectra DL-D250S model, the machine is booting up, but it ends with only a compressed half screen
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| 07:47 | it is a Intel Atom CPU D2500 @ 1.86 GHZx2 preocessor., do i need to install any specific drivers for this model to work with LTSP or wats the problem
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| 07:48 | how to get a full workable screen in this thin client?
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| 07:48 | <alkisg> Try without ltsp first
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| 07:48 | <prem> without LTSP in the sense?
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| 07:48 | <alkisg> Yes, e.g. from a usb stick
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| 07:48 | If you discover it's not an ltsp issue, ask at #ubuntu, they'll probably tell you to use a newer kernel :)
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| 07:49 | <prem> hmm alkisg in case if it needs a kernel update., should i update the chroot environment of LTSP server alsow ith the kernel?
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| 07:50 | or is it enough to install the new kernel alone?
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| 07:51 | <alkisg> That too is an ubuntu question, not an ltsp one
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| 07:51 | They'll probably tell you to update kernel + xorg, depending on your version
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| 08:09 | <gdi2k_> alkisg, right, issue is clear: root server is set as gateway, not LTSP server. so my gateway is 192.168.1.1, but cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf shows root server as 192.168.1.1 and it should be 192.168.1.11 for ltsp server
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| 08:09 | I have IPAPPEND 3 set in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> Pastebin your pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 08:11 | And the output of `cat /proc/cmdline` of the client
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| 08:12 | <gdi2k_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7145175/
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| 08:12 | cat /proc/cmdline
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| 08:13 | hmm, don't have whole output
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| 08:13 | sec...
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> ...wait, in your dhcpd.conf,
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| 08:13 | you don't have next-server=192.168.1.11 ?
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| 08:13 | <gdi2k_> no
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> Are you using proxydhcp or plain dhcp?
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| 08:14 | <gdi2k_> I have a pfsense server providing regular DHCP
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| 08:14 | I wanted to be able to select different LTSP servers from clients during boot, so I am using dnsmasq
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| 08:14 | <alkisg> You can do that with a menu, but ok
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| 08:15 | So, in your pfsense, do you have next-server=unset?
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| 08:15 | So that it's provided by dnsmasq?
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| 08:16 | <gdi2k_> yes
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| 08:17 | <gdi2k_> no boot options set by pfsense
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| 08:17 | (if I do set them, clients boot fine, but then I can't use menu)
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> What sends 192.168.1.1?
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| 08:17 | <gdi2k_> how can I tell?
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> Check your configs
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| 08:17 | <gdi2k_> that's the pfsense box, so probably that
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| 08:18 | <alkisg> Tell it not to. :)
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| 08:18 | <gdi2k_> heh
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| 08:19 | not sure what is sending it - as it's a boot option, it can only be dnsmasq
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> It's a pfsense question, not an ltsp question. I don't know pfsense so I can't help.
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| 08:19 | <gdi2k_> pfsense is not sending boot options
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| 08:19 | (if I set it to send boot options, things work fine)
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| 08:19 | dnsmasq menu is like this:
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| 08:19 | pxe-prompt="Press F8 if last boot failed. Otherwise wait...", 5
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| 08:19 | pxe-service=X86PC,"Manually boot from Server 1","/ltsp/i386/pxelinux",192.168.1.11
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> dnsmasq doesn't know 192.168.1.1 if I understood your setup
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| 08:19 | So it can't be sending it
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| 08:21 | <gdi2k_> unless dnsmasq is misconfigured... is /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp.conf the only place it could be coming from ?
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> That's a dnsmasq question :)
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| 08:21 | No ltsp questions at all today... :D
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| 08:21 | OK, it can come from /etc/dnsmasq.conf too
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| 08:22 | !ipxe
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| 08:22 | <ltsp`> ipxe: iPXE is the successor to the etherboot/gPXE project, and can be used to netboot clients that don't have a NIC ROM with a PXE stack. To add it to grub, see !grub-ipxe. To add it to the Windows boot loader, see !win32-loader. To download floppy, CD or USB images, visit http://ipxe.org or install the ipxe package.
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| 08:22 | <alkisg> ipxe has a config command which shows you all the values it gets
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| 08:22 | ctrl+b; dhcp net0; config
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| 08:23 | It might help you in troubleshooting pfsense/dnsmasq...
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| 08:23 | `ltsp-config dnsmasq --overwrite` gives you a clean file that you can test your dnsmasq setup with
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| 08:24 | <gdi2k_> ok thanks
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| 08:24 | don't understand what changed as the config wasn't touched and everything looks fine there
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| 08:24 | worked fine before
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| 08:25 | I updated chroot kernel to saucy - could that have had any impact?
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| 08:27 | <alkisg> Not with your dhcp setup. With udev race conditions, maybe, but not with dhcp...
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| 10:31 | <japoepjonge> hallo?
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| 10:31 | Is there someone in here??
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| 10:32 | Can someone tell me how to configure an ip range in the lts.conf??
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| 11:54 | <gdi2k_> japoepjonge what do you want to do exactly?
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| 11:54 | you want to assign clients certain IPs?
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| 11:55 | or you want to assign options to a range of IPs?
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| 11:57 | <gdi2k_> if you want to assign certain options to a group of clients, use "LIKE" in lts.conf. See http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Configuration at the bottom
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| 13:21 | <needhelp> hello guys
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| 13:22 | <givehelp> Hello
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| 13:22 | :P
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| 13:22 | <needhelp> Can someone help me with making a splash screen for my ltsp client
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> It's not different from non-ltsp clients,so ask in your distro channel
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| 13:23 | <needhelp> It is different
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| 13:23 | Ltsp uses pxe
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| 13:23 | and normal you use grub
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| 13:23 | <alkisg> It's the same initramfs
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| 13:23 | Which distro/version?
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| 13:23 | <needhelp> yes I know
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| 13:23 | Debian
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| 13:23 | version 7 wheezy
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| 13:24 | <alkisg> The debian live cd uses syslinux, you can copy stuff from there
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| 13:24 | It's not an ltsp issue... do you need something related to pxe?
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| 13:24 | <needhelp> maybe
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| 13:25 | * ogra_ wonders how a splash screen would be related to the bootloader at all | |
| 13:25 | <ogra_> they usually operate in userspace right after the kernel is up
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| 13:25 | <needhelp> yes I dont know what i have to change
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| 13:25 | <alkisg> Debian shows a logo in grub
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| 13:26 | It doesn't use plymouth
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| 13:26 | I imagine needhelp wants a logo in pxelinux...
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| 13:26 | <ogra_> well, thats not what i would refer to as splash screen :)
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| 13:26 | <alkisg> Which is the same as in syslinux, i.e. debian live
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| 13:26 | <needhelp> something like that
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| 13:26 | <ogra_> k, so a static pic in the bootloader then
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| 13:26 | <needhelp> i want to hide the bootloader text
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| 13:26 | <alkisg> Yup, it's easy under pxelinux
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| 13:27 | It should be easily google-able too
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| 13:27 | <ogra_> doesnt debian use splashy by default ?
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| 13:27 | <alkisg> And there's the #syslinux channel
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| 13:27 | <needhelp> I did that but it didnt work out
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| 13:27 | Its the ltsp image
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| 13:27 | It only shows the boottext
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| 13:28 | <alkisg> In that case, the bootloader shows the logo
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| 13:28 | So you should see the logo before the ltsp initramfs is loaded
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| 13:28 | I.e. nothing ltsp-related has ran at that point
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| 13:28 | <needhelp> yes thats what i want
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| 13:29 | hmm okay
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| 13:29 | But does someone know how that works?
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 13:30 | <needhelp> What do I have to do than
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| 13:30 | <alkisg> I'm using something like this: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2828.0;attach=1672;image
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| 13:30 | Google and ask in #syslinux if you can't find the answer in google
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| 13:30 | It's not ltsp-related..
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| 13:30 | <needhelp> wait
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| 13:30 | that is not what i want
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| 13:31 | I dont want a menu
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> It's a menu with a logo
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| 13:31 | You can only have the logo
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| 13:31 | <needhelp> Yes but i dont need that menu
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| 13:31 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 13:31 | <ogra_> just omit tit then
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| 13:31 | <needhelp> wait a second
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| 13:31 | let me explain
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| 13:34 | <needhelp> i need a graphical boot when the thinclient after it has loaded the pxelinux.cnf
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| 13:34 | My client is already working now
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| 13:34 | <alkisg> This is ldm: http://jonathancarter.org/files/images/ldm_ltsp.png
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| 13:35 | This is syslinux: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/DebianLive.png
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| 13:35 | <needhelp> But it first shows the bootlines and than uses the kiosk
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| 13:35 | <alkisg> You want a syslinux logo that remains after the boot selection
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| 13:35 | (i.e. no menu in your case)
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| 13:35 | <needhelp> I dont have to select that
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| 13:36 | I just loads the pxelinux conf and than starts up
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| 13:36 | <alkisg> Right, you don't want a menu, you only want the logo, we got that part
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| 13:36 | <needhelp> *it
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| 13:36 | yes
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| 13:37 | I want a logo until the system is booted
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> Right, I already gave you the answer above.
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| 13:37 | <needhelp> It like booting windows xp
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| 13:37 | Which one?
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> Read the logs above ^
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| 13:37 | <needhelp> Its like a loading screen you know
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> Yup, I know
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| 13:38 | <needhelp> You send me some pictures right?
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| 13:38 | <alkisg> (03:24:05 μμ) alkisg: The debian live cd uses syslinux, you can copy stuff from there
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| 13:38 | (03:30:40 μμ) alkisg: Google and ask in #syslinux if you can't find the answer in google
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| 13:38 | (03:30:30 μμ) alkisg: I'm using something like this: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2828.0;attach=1672;image
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| 13:38 | It's not ltsp related, it's syslinux (pxelinux) related
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| 13:38 | <needhelp> yes okay
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| 13:38 | <alkisg> It's a simple menu, no need to ask here in #ltsp
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| 13:38 | <needhelp> Yes i get that
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| 13:38 | <alkisg> *not menu, config file
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| 13:38 | You don't want a menu, ok
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| 13:39 | <needhelp> yes thats correct
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| 13:39 | only a picture or logo or something
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| 13:39 | to hide the boot text
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| 13:39 | <alkisg> ok
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| 13:40 | <needhelp> ubuntu already has it installed its called (plymouth) debian doesnt and id like to work with debain
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| 13:40 | w
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| 13:40 | Is there something like plymouth for pxelinux?
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Plymouth is loaded from linux
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| 13:41 | Pxelinux is before linux
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| 13:41 | You just want a logo
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| 13:41 | Use pxelinux.
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| 13:41 | <needhelp> yes okay
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> Ask in #syslinux or google.
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| 13:41 | <needhelp> hmm okay
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| 13:41 | <alkisg> It's just a couple of lines in pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 13:42 | <needhelp> I dont really know how you can configure that in pxelinux
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| 13:42 | I did that to try
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| 13:42 | but it didnt workout
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> Ask in #syslinux then, paste your configuration file there etc
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| 13:42 | <needhelp> I will try to reach someone in #syslinux
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| 13:42 | thanks for your help!
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| 13:43 | I am from holland btw
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| 13:43 | <alkisg> np
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| 13:43 | Greetings from Greece :)
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| 13:43 | <needhelp> okay!
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| 13:43 | have a nice day
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| 14:31 | <Hyperbyte> From Holland? ew......
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| 14:33 | Funny he has a German IP too.....
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| 14:33 | * Hyperbyte is always very suspicious of people from Holland... | |
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| 14:36 | * alkisg is suspicious of people using too generic userids in irc... :) | |
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| 15:08 | <johan___> Hi, I have been trying to find an answer to a problem I have with a fat client setup. Concerning groups. Anyone here who might know?
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| 15:09 | The problem is that I can't get neigther glx or sound working without adding users to the 'video' and 'audio' groups on the server.
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| 15:10 | Also, I can't mount local devices, which might also have to do with group membership.
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| 15:10 | <Hyperbyte> johan___, not sure. Stick around for a few hours at least, though... I'm sure someone knows the answer.
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| 15:10 | :)
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| 15:11 | <johan___> Ok. I'm running latest Ubuntu and the default setup for fat clients from the Ubuntu Wiki, which I guess is important. :-)
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| 18:53 | <gbaman_> alkisg: finally got round to getting lock-screen.py from epoptes working and killable, new issue now
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| 18:53 | my python file that is launching it is running as a service
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| 18:54 | when i get it to launch lock-screen.py though i get the gtk errors that it cant find the screen
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| 19:16 | <gbaman_> any ideas alkisg?
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| 19:17 | <alkisg> Check /usr/share/epoptes-client/get-display
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| 19:32 | <gbaman_> ok alkisg, now that i have the display number, how can i force a program to use it?
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| 19:33 | <alkisg> gbaman_: you realize that you're asking me to help you reimplement epoptes, right? :) Just read the code...
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| 19:36 | <gbaman_> large chunk of epoptes features don't work on the Raspberry Pi
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> You installed epoptes-client and it didn't work?
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| 19:37 | <gbaman_> yes?
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| 19:37 | <alkisg> What was the error message?
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| 19:37 | <gbaman_> will give it another go now, 2 mins
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| 19:37 | was quite a while ago
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| 19:49 | <gbaman_> broadcast screen does not work
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| 19:49 | lock screen does :)
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| 19:50 | <alkisg> What is the error message for broadcast?
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| 19:50 | <gbaman_> i can though remote control client from server
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| 19:50 | when i hit broadcast my screen, no error message on client
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| 19:51 | no error on server side
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| 19:51 | <alkisg> Launch both epoptes and epoptes-client from a terminal, so that you see stderr
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| 19:51 | <gbaman_> i did
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| 19:52 | there is no error on client side
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| 19:52 | <alkisg> Nor on server side?
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| 19:52 | <gbaman_> server starts the vnc server as normal
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| 19:52 | * ogra_ makes a jedi wave ... "there is no error" | |
| 19:52 | <gbaman_> :)
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| 19:52 | logout does not work either
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| 19:52 | no error
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| 19:53 | reboot does though :)
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| 19:54 | <alkisg> OK, file bugs for all those so that we can start troubleshooting them...
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| 19:54 | <gbaman_> ok, will do
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| 19:59 | <gbaman_> so this is the key line alkisg export $(./get-display)
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| 19:59 | so that should set the display variable? then just running the python file still does not work?
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