IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 20 January 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 11:45 | <alkisg> !kvm
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| 11:45 | <ltsp> kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -kernel /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz -initrd /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/initrd.img -append "ro init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/nbd0 ip=:10.160.67.10::"
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| 17:52 | <alkisg> !vagrantc-todo
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| 17:52 | <ltsp> I do not know about 'vagrantc-todo', but I do know about these similar topics: 'vagrant-todo'
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| 17:52 | <alkisg> !vagrant-todo
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| 17:52 | <ltsp> vagrant-todo: pxemenus
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| 17:53 | <alkisg> !learn vagrant-todo as merge https://code.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/ltsp-debian-packaging but note that $(DEBVERS) doesn't work in r1194
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| 17:53 | <ltsp> The operation succeeded.
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| 20:05 | <uttam> Newbie here. Is this where I can ask my question?
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| 21:01 | <alkisg> !vagrant-todo | echo vagrantc:
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| 21:01 | <ltsp> vagrantc: vagrant-todo: (#1) pxemenus, or (#2) merge https://code.launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/sch-scripts/ltsp-debian-packaging but note that $(DEBVERS) doesn't work in r1194
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| 21:02 | <alkisg> :)
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| 21:09 | <bennabiy> alkisg: When doing an install, what is the default going to be? NBD, NFS, AoE? (Ubuntu related systems)
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| 21:09 | for 5.5 and 6.0
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| 21:09 | <alkisg> bennabiy: for ubuntu, NBD
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| 21:09 | <bennabiy> ok
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| 21:09 | <alkisg> for debian, NFS, for opensuse, AOE :)
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| 21:09 | <bennabiy> ok :)
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| 21:12 | alkisg: what is the best solution for running a windows client within a thin client lab? So far I have tried both virtualbox and KVM, running on the server and connected from the thin client via remmina as rdp
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> Fast/fat clients or slow/thin clients?
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| 21:12 | <bennabiy> slow
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| 21:13 | thin clients have 2 gigs of ram, but beans for a proc
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| 21:13 | actually, I think beans are faster
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> I think I'd still use them as fat clients... which processor?
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| 21:13 | <bennabiy> atom 280
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| 21:13 | N280
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| 21:13 | I think
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+N280+%40+1.66GHz
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| 21:14 | <bennabiy> I am fine with the clients for most general needs.
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| 21:14 | yes
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> Yeah that's one of the lowest ones
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| 21:14 | <bennabiy> yup.. I think I see beans 3 entries higher
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> Well, I'd use a master XP vbox VM
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| 21:14 | And snapshot it/boot it over LTSP on the clients on the fly, locally
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| 21:15 | With SCREEN_07=windows or similar
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| 21:15 | <bennabiy> What is the best way to export the image?
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| 21:15 | <alkisg> You can export the read only .vdi file with nbd or aoe, whatever you like
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| 21:16 | The snapshot would be in RAM or in NBD_SWAP
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| 21:16 | ...or even in SSHFS, whatever you prefer
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| 21:16 | <bennabiy> the client would need to write changes to the windows disk
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| 21:16 | and to a shared disk on the linux host
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| 21:17 | <alkisg> Why write changes? It would be like using deep freeze
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| 21:17 | Only the sysadmin would be able to do changes that survive reboots
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| 21:17 | Of course the user home would be in SSHFS or NFS, sure
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| 21:18 | <bennabiy> I am fine with the windows install itself not needing to be written to, but the user needs from windows to be able to save files, which can be accessed in windows on the next reboot, and from the linux host
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| 21:18 | He also uses the thin client on the linux side for email and such
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| 21:18 | <alkisg> Right, that's what vbox shared folders are for
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| 21:19 | <bennabiy> So it would just be an RDP session ?
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| 21:19 | <alkisg> No, vbox running locally on the client
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| 21:19 | It's the fastest you can do. Or, vmware client.
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| 21:20 | But not kvm, it's not good for desktop sessions
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| 21:20 | <bennabiy> oh. I get it now.
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| 21:20 | <alkisg> It's very good for server sessions
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| 21:20 | <bennabiy> I use kvm all the time for servers, but I thought I would try it for the desktop... bah.
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| 21:22 | We do not use ltsp-pnp, so I would need to install virtualbox to the client image, and then also the general vm info?
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| 21:23 | <alkisg> What do you mean general vm info?
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| 21:25 | <bennabiy> I mean the vbox info for the xpclient, or would that be part of the nbd export?
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| 21:26 | <alkisg> Ideally that should be generated on the fly to match the client specs
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| 21:27 | <bennabiy> what is the best way to do that?
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| 21:27 | <alkisg> E.g. if the client has 4 cores, it should use 4 cores, if it has 2 GB RAM, it should use 1.5 RAM etc
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| 21:27 | ...the best way is to write a "vbox" LTSP screen script :)
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| 21:37 | <alkisg> Meh overlayfs is broken currently in 14.04, it reports zero free space, while aufs works fine...
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