IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 January 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:52 | <alkisg> !kvm
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| 06:52 | <ltsp> kvm: Virtual thin client: kvm -m 256 -vga vmware -ctrl-grab -no-shutdown -net nic,model=virtio -net user,tftp=/var/lib/tftpboot,bootfile=/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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| 08:23 | <gintonyc> hi, i have a problem with my ltsp on Xubuntu, in "system-config-printer" and "mousepad", i can see all the printers which are installed. But in other software like LibreOffice or Evince, i have just "Generic Printer". It's a Xubuntu 16.04 Thanks for the help
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| 08:24 | <alkisg> gintonyc: is this on the server, on fat client, or on thin client?
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| 08:25 | <gintonyc> on the server, no problem, all is ok, i can see the printer everywhere, its on the thin client
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| 08:26 | (its network printers)
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> Is it thin client or fat client?
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| 08:28 | <gintonyc> thin client
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> On the thin client, press alt+ctrl+t to open a terminal
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| 08:28 | Type "hostname" there
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| 08:29 | What does it say?
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| 08:30 | <gintonyc> the name of the server
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| 08:30 | <alkisg> OK, and what's the output of this command?
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| 08:30 | env | nc termbin.com 9999
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| 08:32 | <gintonyc> nothing happens, like the command is waiting
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| 08:32 | (can't launch other command)
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| 08:32 | Ctrl + C to have the prompt again
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| 08:33 | <alkisg> Try it one more time in case the termbin server was having bandwidth issues
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| 08:34 | If it fails, just run env > /tmp/env.txt, and then upload /tmp/env.txt to pastebin
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| 08:34 | <gintonyc> ok
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| 08:34 | <alkisg> !paste
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| 08:34 | <ltsp> paste: To avoid channel flooding, please upload text longer than 3 lines to http://paste.debian.net. Don't forget to paste the resulting URL here.
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| 08:40 | <gintonyc> so the termbin, the prompt came back and no result
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| 08:40 | the paste : http://paste.debian.net/1062049
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| 08:42 | <alkisg> gintonyc: I don't see anything wrong. If you reboot the server (so that whatever caches exist, are renewed), and it persists, then it needs troubleshooting with VNC.
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| 08:42 | <gintonyc> ok i will try to reboot
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| 08:45 | no still the problem, maybe i can upgrade to 18.04...
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| 08:46 | <alkisg> Maybe. I don't think it's a problem with ltsp though.
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| 08:46 | Maybe libreoffice etc detect remote connections, and try to hide some printers there
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| 08:47 | <gintonyc> ok i will try the upgrade, i will take a snapshot first :D Thanks for the help ;)
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| 08:47 | <alkisg> Maybe a newer libreoffice or cups etc version will fix it
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| 08:47 | np
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| 13:55 | <mwalters> ugh, all these newer gigabyte brix miniPCs are uefi only =/
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| 13:55 | ...and refuse to grab the boot image just like the intel nuc I have =/
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| 13:57 | <mwalters> which I don't really understand, uefi ipxe boots fine, p sure dhcp is configured correctly
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| 13:57 | maybe the solution is to just buy a bunch of usb flash drives and put ipxe on them :D
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| 14:08 | <||cw> internal usb ports, ya
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| 14:09 | tho my experience with that is failure rates are on the high side and you'lll have no idea one has failed until you try to reboot
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| 14:10 | at least with cheap ones. they don't seem to be made for always on use
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| 14:16 | <mwalters> or I guess I could finally figure out what this rom flashing is all about
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| 14:21 | <||cw> I kinda miss the days of removable rom chips
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| 14:22 | <mwalters> I don't miss how large *EVERYTHING* was in the those days ;)
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| 14:23 | oh, reflashing onboard roms seems to involve hacking up the bios/uefi image
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| 14:23 | no thanks
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| 14:31 | alkisg: noticed even after setting SCREEN_DEFAULT=07, my ipxe clients (using uefi) still seem to boot to VT1 sometimes
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| 14:38 | <alkisg> mwalters: which distro/flavour is that? e.g. ubuntu mate 18.04?
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| 14:39 | <mwalters> yeah
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| 14:39 | 18.04.1, if that makes any difference
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| 14:40 | <alkisg> No it's the same. Oh well I guess ltsp boot scripts fight with systemd. Let's hope ltsp6 arrives this summer :)
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| 14:40 | <mwalters> :D
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| 14:54 | <mwalters> I'm throwing in the towel on these uefi clients... I just ordered a 10 pack of low profile usb flash drives =/
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> It took me a while, but I managed to netboot all my uefi devices
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| 14:54 | <mwalters> What's really strange, is that ipxe is netbooting the grub image
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| 14:55 | I have a couple other clients booting the grub image
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> So now I have a super boot.ipxe script that can boot uefi, non-uefi and even rpi clients
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| 14:55 | <mwalters> it's just these new guys =/
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> *along with dnsmasq.conf
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| 14:55 | <mwalters> I can see dnsmasq responding to them, and offering the grub image, the clients simply don't even try to get it, though
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| 14:56 | <alkisg> Which client is that?
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| 14:56 | <mwalters> I have 1 intel nuc, and just got 5 gigabyte brix things
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| 14:56 | nuc is a realtek nic, p sure the gigabytes are too
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| 14:56 | what's strange is... I had the nuc booting using isc on 14.04
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| 14:56 | p sure my dnsmasq config is just a bit off or something
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| 14:57 | it's just strange that the client doesn't even attempt to get the image
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| 14:59 | <alkisg> I think I solved that one a couple of days ago
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| 14:59 | Ping me tomorrow, when I'll be at work with my notes
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| 14:59 | <mwalters> cool, thanks
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| 15:00 | <fiesh> NUC is realtek?! what a weird nuc, ours are all Intel (the chipset I'd expect on an Intel product)
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| 15:00 | 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (3) I218-V (rev 03)
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| 15:00 | <mwalters> yup, really strange
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| 15:01 | <fiesh> but then all our hardware has ISA bridges, I always thought ISA died out in the eighties
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| 15:02 | <mwalters> isa lived on well into the early nineties, probably until the pentium2 era
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| 15:02 | I'm sure it lived on in servers well after that
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| 15:03 | <fiesh> well the latest generation NUCs still have it :)
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| 15:03 | so clearly it hasn't died out yet
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| 15:03 | no idea what it's needed for though
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| 15:04 | <mwalters> oh
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| 15:04 | I see what you mean after googling... strange
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| 16:25 | !x2go
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| 16:25 | <ltsp> x2go: x2go is an NX-based suite of applications that allow logging in to a remote X server from any OS. It's much more efficient than VNC over slow network. More info: http://www.x2go.org/
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