joebob777as7: We had to do this and one of my students did it.
Let me see if I can find his notes...
that would be great!
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how long will it take? I've got to leave here soon. I don't want to rush you though.
Have you tried running "sudo ltsp-build-client" ?
Not sure if that defaults to 32-bit on a 64-bit system...
yes i did that and since it's a amd64 server it defaults to a an /opt/amd64 directory install
joebob777as7: try this: man ltsp-build-client
i can do a --dist to specify distrubution but it doesn't give me any options...
what version of ubuntu are you using?
read the man page, look at '--arch'
ok i see it
that looks like it but what is the paramater i use?
looks to me like it says it supports "i386", "amd64" or "powerpc"
awesome! i'll give it a try thanks a bunch!
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jammcq: do you by chance know how the clients figure out which dist to boot from?
it's in the dhcpd.conf file
that would be /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
if you want to make your client boot the 386 kernel, you need to point the 'filename' entry to your 386 kernel
and you also need to change the 'root-path' in the same file
if you wanna do both 32-bit and 64-bit, there's tons of information on dhcp on the LTSP wiki
ok thanks. do you know off hand how to do both or should i just search it up on the wiki?
read the wiki
ok will do thanks a bunch~!!!
i'm heading to bed. See ya'll later
me too night
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i need to install sound package extra in ltsp4.2,K12
i have problem on sound?
Anybody is there?
All are sleeping ??
dem, dan__t edgarin_ Faithful ping all are sleeping i need support
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ogra, can u help me about printer configuration?
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primeministerp, can u help me?
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Got a problem with LTSP. I installed it and use it on old dell laptops but I can't have a 102x768 resolution. I know it's possible on these laptops. When I launch an old live CD, I've got it. I don't with recent live cds.
Do you think it's an Xorg problem ? Should I use XFree ? downgrade to ltsp 4.1 ?
Franckito, you can specify a modeline in an lts.conf..
X_MODE_0=800x600 or an entire modeline
I don't know the screen refresh rates. I looked for infos on dell.com but couldn't find anything.
I tried that. Didn't work.
hmmm..it should..i do that for some wonky lcd s i have in 4.2
Without indicating the refresh rates ?
X_MODE_0=800x600 40 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666
is what i have..you can pick out refresh rates with xvidtune
I'll try but change 800x600 for 1024x768 ;-)
thanks for the xvidtunes tip.
give it a whirl anayway 8~)
The card is an ATI Rage
I'll try to use xvidtunes.
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#quit thanks !
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I have a question, how can I install programs on client (I am using edubuntu 7.04 as ltsp server, server is amd64, but clients i386)? I set up everything, and it is working, but I want to install x11vnc on client. Have you any idea?
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needs to be installed chroot in /opt/ltsp/i386
yeah, but apt-get in chroot env. can not find x11vnc
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maybe I am doing something wrong 1. i go into chroot by: sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 /bin/bash than i try to install it by: apt-get install x11vnc
maybe there is something with repositories? (i have not much experiences with debian-based distos)
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ernierasta, isnt it libvncserver?
in ubuntu it is x11vnc
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I will ask at edubuntu channel, thank you cliebow!
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greetings. been experimenting with ltsp over the last few days. setup etc. all worked perfectly (thx to ubuntu integration), but I am disappointed with the terminal's performance (K6 - 533 MHz, 196 MB RAM). even at 1024 x 768 the screen draws are slow - irritatingly slow. are my expectations too high?
gdi2k_: what video card in the client?
o gra and jammcq have been doing some ..heh
it's a trident supported card of some sort. problem is that the terminal font turns to chinese half way through the boot, so I can't actually log in to the terminal to check logs etc.
completely chines..or sanskrit/
I can use a gentoo live CD to check exactly what card
what version of Ubuntu ?
well, hard to tell - Cs with little tails seem very prevalent!
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i've been working alot with that lately
i second the hmm..i know my ppc chroot works pretty near perfectly
I also have an AMD 64 which I have tested as a client, works beautifully
I suspect the graphics hardware in the K6 machine is just rubbish
yeah. you might also try setting: SCREEN_07 = startx
and then enable remote xdmcp in your gdm config
I can get to the login prompt ok, but I can't switch to the first terminal and login there (as I can't see what I'm doing)
when I say login prompt, I mean the LDM login
what happens if you try to login at the LDM prompt?
I can login, works okayish. but the redraws are nastily slow
I also have an NFS issue somewhere - I see error of not being able to find the NFS server on the server when the client is booting, before it turns chinese
gdi2k: I am trying ltsp for only few hours, but i must say that performance is realy not bad (ok, it is problem to watch film, but there is only 10Mbit/s ethernet card in client)
yeh, if I use the AMD64 machine, I can see the bandwidth hitting its limits when running youtube (at about 8MB / sec) but that's to be expected. However, on the slow machine, bandwidth never goes above 1 MB / sec outbound from the server, which sounds like the terminal is the bottleneck
(100 MBit network)
(server amd64 3000+, 1GB ram, sata disk; client P2, 300mhz, +- 200MB ram)
gdi2k_: encrypting the X traffic over SSH is a huge cpu bottleneck
changing to xdmcp can improve the performance alot
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ok, I added SCREEN_07 = startx to lts.conf and enabled remote GDM logins, but I now just get the gray X screen, no gdm
you need to restart gdm for the new settings to take effect. But, it'll kill your current session, if you are logged in on the console on that server
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thx for your help Jim, using the client sans ssh works much better - it's nicely usable now
ah, great to hear
gfx quality is terrible, but that's down to the poor hardware (and being used to modern LCDs with DVI quality output)
jammcq:is staratx in ubuntu much the same as 4.2's screen.d/startx?
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what's the most effective way of dealing with client disconnects? it seems that there are lots of progs still running when the user logs back in - especially firefox moans about this...
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jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not much. Hey, the tickets link you sent me, didn't contain a link for the hop from Sau Paulo to Porto Alegra
You got that yet?
that's a different airline
they were supposed to send me a confirmation via email, but it prolly got trapped in spam filters
I'll have to call them and get the details
i've got it all written down somewhere
That's fine, so long as ONE of us has it come next Tuesday :)
well, theoretically, we should just be able to walk up to the TAM counter and check in
it's nice to have something on paper
So, listen, I'm having a lot of trouble with this hardware I didn't get from you. Do you think you could help me debug it? :)
umm, yeah, right
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lots of activity around detroit this weekend. Wrestlemania is here
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cliebow: "bootfloppy" is http://etherboot.anadex.de or ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy
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i've got 64bit and 32bit clients... is there a boot script i could have the server push to them first to discover or have a number to define which they boot as?
joebob777as7: didn't I tell you yesterday that you can control that via the dhcpd.conf file?
it's not a script
it's a conf
yes i know i can but i don't know how to have both types of clients i changed it to 1386 but now my 64bit client won't work...
create 2 'host' entries
one for the 32-bit client, and another for your 64-bit client
put the mac address for the 32-bit client in the 32-bit host entry
put the mac address for the 64-bit client in the 64-bit host entry
also, in the 2 host entries, you'll need 'filename' and 'root-path' entries, pointing to the proper kernel and chroot environment
oh ok thanks a bunch.
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another stupid question... i'm setting up my user's desktops... I have 6 students and I want 3 to have the same apps on the desktop and 3 to have a different set of apps on the desktops... is it best to just log in as them and set it up one by one?
umm, that part I dunno. all my users get the same setup, usually Icewm
nice and light weight
think i should use it instead of kubuntu? none are used to linux...
hmm, dunno. my sites have lots of users, so lightweight is important
and my users have limited things they can do
i'll only have 6 maybe 8 max... i guess i can always switch...
i've got 140 users
so it's important to keep things lightweight
wow! what is it for? what are you using for a server?
office workers in a healthcare supply company
server is a dual xeon with 4gb of ram
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what do they mainly do on the clients?
email, web, openoffice and xterms to ssh into other servers to run accounting/inventory/orderentry stuff
jammcq, Hi how are you?
hey edgarin doing great. how's it going down there?
jammcq, you go to the FISL in Brazil?
I'll be flying over your house in about 9 days :)
yes, I'll be there
jammcq, I proposed a conference in the FISL but my conference was rejected :(
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jammcq, but in another event i will have the honor to meet in person to the founder of LTSP
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i'm creating user accounts and none can log in accept my main user that i created when i install ubuntu... is there anything special i need to do?
do they have homedirs?
and the perms seem ok?
i doubt if ltsp-update-sshkeys will fix that..
login error that sis
yes permissions seem ok...
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ogra aput this together..perhaps he has time
i looked into the log and the newly created users even though i put that passwords never expire were coming up expired... and on my thin-client it didn't show i needed to update but when i went to log in on the server it prompted for password change... know how i can fix this so i don't have to log in to every account?
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i dont sorry
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