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Channel log from 27 February 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:02 | <lapinmalin> Hello, I use LTSP4.2 and Local Device. When i insere a usb stick it is recognise by the WS and a directory is created in /tmp/drives/ but this new directory is empty. I've triedtwo usb stick.
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| 03:00 | <lapinmalin> new test : if on the WS i do a "mount -a" the usb stick is mounted !!! Why the mount isnt do automatically ?
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| 03:56 | <fantomas> Hi. Would someone recommend a minimal linux distro which is good for booting remote stations. Except LTSP.
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| 03:56 | I don't need client-server functionality - just need linux to run some linux tests and games
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| 03:57 | I've created one from my Debian etch installation but its no way a minimal one :)
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| 03:57 | And making it was a pain
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| 04:11 | <fantomas> nice
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| 04:53 | <lapinmalin> Hello, I use LTSP4.2 and Local Device. When i insere a usb stick it is recognise by the WS and a directory is created in /tmp/drives/ but this new directory is empty. I've tried two usb stick.
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| 04:54 | new test : if on the WS i do a "mount -a" the usb stick is mounted !!! Why the mount isnt do automatically ?
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| 04:55 | <mistik1> I am no localdev specialist but I believe the drives only mount when you access them from the desktop side
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| 04:56 | the daemon checks every few secs for mount request
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| 04:56 | I believe the docs say as much
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| 04:59 | <Jenna> lapinmalin, : add the user to "fuse" group before using any usb drive
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| 05:20 | <_EXP> which would be better for ltsp server: 2x3GHz Xeon FSB800 or 2x3GHz Xeon dual core FSB677?
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| 05:46 | <envite> Hello everybody! I'm back home, at last
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| 05:46 | so
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| 05:46 | ¡Hola a todos desde España!
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| 05:47 | <cliebow_> envite1
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| 05:50 | <envite> Hello cliebow
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| 05:54 | <lapinmalin> thanks Mistik1. But, for each WS i have two screens : one for a X server et one for a RDP connection. And if i want my usb stick on Windows, i need to mount it on ws.
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| 05:55 | I only test it on WS and on RDP connexion. Because i've got aonther pb for that : i use FREEBSD for the Applications Server
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| 06:10 | <cliebow_> s/1/!
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| 06:18 | <Jenna> lapinmalin, there is a package available that lets u mount usbs/them in windows as well
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| 06:24 | <lapinmalin> Jenna, where can i find this package and what is his name ?
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| 06:28 | <Jenna> ltsp.org
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| 06:28 | <Jenna> wait lemme get u the name
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| 06:29 | Gadi developed it
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| 06:30 | lapinmalin, LTSP-RDP-localdev.tgz
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| 06:31 | lapinmalin, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/symbiont/LTSP-RDP-localdev.tgz?download
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| 06:38 | <lapinmalin> Thanks Jenna. I try now...
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| 06:41 | <Jenna> ur welcome
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| 06:47 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 06:48 | <Jenna> hey erdincy
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| 06:49 | <a5benwillis> G'morning everyone
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| 06:53 | <Jenna> hey a5benwillis
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| 06:56 | <a5benwillis> Jenna: Hello
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| 06:57 | <lapinmalin> Hello a5benwillis
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| 07:00 | <a5benwillis> So what's everyone up to today? Im still working on LTSP issues.
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| 07:06 | <cliebow> a5benwillis, i got a "cough" windows server to put in at Trenton..last of six to run mms...a sparc server to test out
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| 07:06 | <cliebow> check backups in 12 schools
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| 07:07 | <a5benwillis> ooh windows fun today
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| 07:08 | I sopent six hours in a school yesterday afternoon doind packet traces to find out why we were having slow logins. Fun afternoon :-)
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| 07:10 | <lapinmalin> I try... After install, i've got a new directory in the WS : /Drives. But when i insert USB Stick, the name of the key is always a directory in /tmp/drives/ Nothing on the RDP connexion (yes i modifie the lts.conf)
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| 07:16 | <a5benwillis> lapinmalin: Sorry I cant help, I havent started using devices in LTSP yet
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| 07:22 | <cliebow> a5benwillis, so novell directory server?.i like ldap because the logging can be so profuse..
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| 07:22 | lapinmalin, id guess sbalneav and Gadi will be around shortly..Gadi i thin has done the seminal work on usb sticks and sound via rdesktop
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| 07:23 | <a5benwillis> I wouldnt mind LDAP. Infact I use it on the novel side already for contextless login. But to use it to authenticate linux I'll have to populate each user with a unix uid, gid and home directory attribute. I have over 16,000 user accounts.
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| 07:29 | <cliebow> a5benwillis, i script those things
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| 07:30 | <lapinmalin> clebow, thanks. I use the sound via RDP and it's working. "Only" the usb key problem
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| 07:32 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: Do you script during account creation? Please elaborate.
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| 07:35 | <cliebow> yes..pretty simple really..i build a csv with username year of graduation..password using perl or bash to create it ..then run the cvs through a script that uses a known good ldap record as a base..with one common password for all students...because
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| 07:35 | smbPasswdMustChange is set to 0 it forces pw change at first login
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| 07:36 | from windows..i also have a piece that inteerupts linux login if that same field is set to 0 and prompts for password change
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| 07:45 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: Sounds pretty slick. I also have all of these accounts in AD
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| 07:46 | Cliebow: But the users home directories allexist on novell servers. So I could authenticate against AD but I would still need to log into NDS to mount the HD.
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| 07:46 | cliebow:Im still testing xdmcp this morning. Hopefuly I can get it working soon.
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| 07:49 | <cliebow> Hope so..Has to be something trivial
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| 07:49 | i know squat about mounting nds
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| 08:50 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:50 | <sbalneav> Morning
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| 08:51 | <envite> Morning
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| 08:54 | <a5benwillis> morning jammcq and sbalneav
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| 08:55 | <Lumiere> hi jammcq, sbalneav
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| 08:58 | <jammcq> hey Lumiere
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| 08:58 | how ya doing?
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| 08:59 | <cliebow> Lumiere:!!! hi!
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| 09:00 | <ogra> sbalneav, pingediping .... about your jetpipe changes for serial printing ... beta release gets nearer and i'd like to merge that in if you have anything
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> ogra: jammcq and I are meeting on Thursday. I'll get that stuff to you this weekend.
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| 09:02 | <Lumiere> hi cliebow
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| 09:02 | <Lumiere> I've been sick all weekend
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| 09:02 | <cliebow> yecch:it s going around here too
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| 09:02 | <Lumiere> I was supposed to be at pycon this weekend
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| 09:02 | <cliebow> usually a fun time?
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| 09:03 | <MoL0ToV> hi to all! i have a set of client that not have pxe boot eprom on the network controller. exist a way to make a partition of some megs that contains pxe spefific for my network card, load and run it?
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| 09:03 | <Lumiere> working the sprint for schooltool/cando
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| 09:03 | <ogra> sbalneav, thanks a lot, i wouldnt like to have to point out regressions in the release notes :)
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| 09:03 | <sbalneav> :)
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| 09:03 | <Lumiere> my old school district has it's high school students writing competency tracking software
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| 09:03 | and it's seriously impressive
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| 09:05 | cando.schooltool.org
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| 09:06 | <lapinmalin> morning
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| 09:08 | I come back with my usb stick problem : when i insert a usb stick in the WS it's recognise with a new directory in /tmp/drives/ but this directory is empty. From RDP connexion i see this empty directory. From X applications server (FreeBSD) ican see anythink !
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> lapinmalin: So, it works from X?
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| 09:10 | <a5benwillis> sbalneav: Im reinstalling my server this morning to try xdmcp, again.....
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| 09:10 | :-)
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| 09:10 | <sbalneav> Why re-install?
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| 09:11 | <lapinmalin> no, it doesn't work from X !
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| 09:11 | <sbalneav> Have you followed the checklist?
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| 09:11 | !checklist
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| 09:11 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
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| 09:11 | <a5benwillis> since I never could get xdmcp to workI figured I would reinstall afterall of the changes I had made trying to get NDS authentication working.
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| 09:12 | <lapinmalin> it's ok til point 6
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| 09:12 | Resume points 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 OK
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| 09:13 | point 7 : how i install fuse with FreeBSD
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| 09:13 | <sbalneav> Dunno.
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| 09:13 | That's for YOU to figure out.
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| 09:13 | I don't even know if fuse is supported under FreeBSD
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| 09:14 | <lapinmalin> Other test : if i do : mount -a on WS, i can see the content of the directory ON the WS and on RDP connexion
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| 09:14 | <zald> how do i bind the ltsp workstation ipaddress per user account?
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| 09:14 | <sbalneav> I don't support local devices over RDP
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| 09:15 | Mainly because I don't have any RDP stuff here to try it out on.
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| 09:15 | <lapinmalin> ok, so how can i do a mount -a automaticaly when a usb stick is insert ? Or is it stupid ?
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| 09:16 | <sbalneav> Well, you'll have to get fuse working first.
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| 09:17 | But all of the binaries on the web page for the ltspfs stuff have been compiled for linux, so you'll have to re-compile those as well.
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| 09:18 | This page: http://fuse4bsd.creo.hu/ seems to indicate that fuse is available for FreeBSD in the ports collection, whatever that is.
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| 09:18 | <lapinmalin> On freebsd port, i can install fuse
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| 09:18 | so i've to wget ltspfs to freebsd and compile it ?
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| 09:19 | For RDP connexion, i use gadi tar.gz : ltsp-rdp. Any help ?
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| 09:20 | <sbalneav> Yes, you'd have to pull the ltspfs sources down from cvs, and re-compile them.
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| 09:21 | As for gadi's rdp stuff, you'd have to talk to him about it: I've got no way to test any of it here, so I just ignore Windows RDP :)
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| 09:21 | We don't use any windows here at work, so Bill Gates doesn't affect me at all :)
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| 09:22 | <lapinmalin> I prefer to use Linux/UNIX but in our french school, some exam must be on BillSoftware :-(((((
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| 09:22 | * jammcq just bought 2 dell desktop machines WITHOUT the microsoft tax :) | |
| 09:22 | <lapinmalin> When ltspfs is compile, what i have to do ? How can i check ? With the list ?
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| 09:23 | <a5benwillis> sbalneav: Must benice to be fully liberated.
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| 09:23 | <cliebow> arrrrrrgh..w 2003 server Sucks
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| 09:24 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: Whats wrong?
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| 09:24 | Cliebow: Just open the cd tray and insert an envelope addressed to Bill Gates andit should work fine :-)
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> lapinmalin: Follow the ltsp4.2 localdev page. I know absolutely nothing about FreeBSD, so I have no idea where you'll need to insert start-up scripts.
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| 09:25 | <a5benwillis> Oh, dont forgetto inclose money.
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| 09:25 | <sbalneav> I'd personally recommend the following:
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| 09:25 | 1) If you're planning on sticking with FreeBSD, do without local device support
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| 09:25 | <lapinmalin> sbalneav : Thanks very much !!! I'll try now
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| 09:25 | <cliebow> a5benwillis, arerrrrrrrrrrgh!!
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| 09:26 | <lapinmalin> why whithout local device ?
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| 09:26 | <sbalneav> 2) If you need local device support, ditch FreeBSD and move to a linux platform that's supported.
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| 09:26 | <a5benwillis> cliebow: What's wrong?
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| 09:26 | <sbalneav> Because you're going to have to do a LOT of work to get it working.
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| 09:26 | and I won't be much help throughout it, as I don't know much about FreeBSD.
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| 09:26 | <lapinmalin> I understand
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| 09:27 | <cliebow> ooohhh.nothing really...i have to set mea testing and it is a pos java app that w2k3server doesnt want to play with...in the interest of SECURITY
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| 09:28 | <a5benwillis> What a pain.
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| 09:29 | <cliebow> well i should go down there..nx is logey from there..refresh is laggy
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| 09:35 | <ogra> lapinmalin, ltspfs will need uved, is bsd using that anywhere ?
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| 09:37 | <cliebow> vedu?
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| 09:37 | <lapinmalin> i dont know
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| 09:37 | <ogra> devu :P
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| 09:37 | <lapinmalin> uved ?
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| 09:37 | <cliebow> voodoo
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| 09:37 | <ogra> udev indeed :)
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| 09:37 | <lapinmalin> i search immediatly udev
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| 09:38 | <cliebow> 2.6 kernel?
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| 09:38 | <ogra> it cares for all the magic on the client, you will need it
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| 09:40 | bye!
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| 10:15 | <lapinmalin> Gadi, i've tried your package LTSP-RDP for USB Stick, but i can't see the content of the directory on TS till i do a mount -a on the WS
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| 10:36 | <a5benwillis> very slow around here today
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| 10:39 | <zald> how do i bind the username to the ltsp thin client ?
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| 10:48 | <erdinc> hi everyone
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| 10:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hi to all
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| 10:49 | can i tar all my /opt/ltsp-4.2 and copy at other server and have the clone server?
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| 10:51 | <erdinc> yes you may
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| 10:52 | but copy /etc/ltsp.conf to the server too
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| 10:52 | cause ltsp-utils packages looking this to make updates and so..
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| 10:53 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 10:54 | what more have to check to tar then?
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| 10:56 | <erdinc> copy exist /etc/ltsp.conf to the backup server tar the /opt/ltsp dir and extract in the the new server with the same path
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| 10:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok thanxs :)
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| 10:57 | <erdinc> you're welcome
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| 11:07 | <ramsys> if i will be using ltsp with virtualization (windows as a guest ),xp or vista what will be /should be min hardware requirement
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| 11:21 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: are you using LTSP 4.2?
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| 11:26 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: if yes, did you add these lines to lts.conf:
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| 11:26 | RCFILE_01 = lbussd_bg
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| 11:26 | SCREEN_01 = "rdesktop -r disk:drives=/Drives <IP>"
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| 11:27 | ?
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| 11:29 | <lapinmalin> Yes i do
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| 11:29 | yes i use LTSP 4.2 and i add the two lines in lts.conf
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| 11:31 | when i insert a USB Stick, nothing append in /Drives on the WS, BUT the key name append in /tmp/drives/
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| 11:33 | <cliebow> lapinmalin, is that stick partitoned?
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| 11:35 | <lapinmalin> yes with one partion
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| 11:35 | If i do a mount -a on the WS, i can see the content of the key in /tmp/drives/NAMEOFTHEKEY
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| 11:38 | <Gadi> did you reboot the thin client?
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| 11:38 | after applying the package
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| 11:39 | also, drop into a shell on the thin client and make sure "lbussd" is running
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| 11:39 | (sounds like it isnt)
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| 11:40 | <lapinmalin> Another test : if i insert my key, a directory /tmp/drives/RemovableStick is created and is empty. Then i go to Windows 2003Server, and i see the directory RemovableStick under drives. But it's empty ! If i create a directory on the TS, i see it on the TS !!
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| 11:40 | Yes i reboot
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| 11:40 | yes "lubssd" is running
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| 11:41 | <zald> cool i was been able to bind the username to ltsp thin client :)
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| 11:41 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: is lbuscd running?
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| 11:42 | <lapinmalin> yes lbuscd is working, BUT i verify and lubssd isn't working !
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| 11:43 | <Gadi> you checked: ps |grep lbussd on the thin client shell?
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| 11:46 | <lapinmalin> yes i do ps -ax|grep lbussd
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| 12:08 | <lapinmalin> i'm arriving : i've got pb with the screen. i've lots
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| 12:08 | i've lost RDP connection and shell !
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| 12:17 | <lapinmalin> OK after the reboot, no more lbussd with ps
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| 12:17 | And in /.lbussd.out a new line
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| 12:18 | DISPLAY has gone away, it's to quit the loop
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| 12:24 | * erdinc brb.. | |
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| 12:32 | <lapinmalin> I've to leave. Gadi, when can i meet you tomorrow
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| 12:32 | <a5benwillis> Anyone have an easy fix for the grub error 18 problem after install in Vmware???
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| 12:32 | Booting up live cd now to see if I marked the wrong partition bootable when I built the system.
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| 12:33 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: i should be around
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| 12:33 | I'm in EST (GMT -5)
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| 12:33 | <lapinmalin> I'm in France
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| 12:33 | <Gadi> bonsoir
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| 12:34 | <lapinmalin> Before leaving : i tried to lanch /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/lbussd and it's seem the WS has lost its DISPLAY
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| 12:34 | Vous parlez francais ? :-)
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| 12:34 | <Gadi> me no
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| 12:34 | :(
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| 12:35 | <lapinmalin> ok, i've to improve my english
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| 12:35 | <Gadi> un pequito espanol
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| 12:35 | y piu meno italiano
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| 12:35 | <lapinmalin> no espanol
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| 12:35 | <Gadi> ok
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| 12:35 | :)
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| 12:35 | <lapinmalin> my girlfriend speak italian
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| 12:36 | why the program say it's loosing the DISPLAY ?
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| 12:37 | <Gadi> do you run rdesktop on display :0?
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| 12:37 | or *some* graphical desktop on SCREEN_01?
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| 12:38 | <lapinmalin> no rdesktop is on SCREEN_02 in lts.conf
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| 12:38 | <Gadi> startx/rdesktop
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| 12:38 | <lapinmalin> yes i use SCREEN_01 for startx
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| 12:38 | <Gadi> ok. make sure you ctrl-alt-f1 so X initializes on screen_01
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| 12:38 | my lbussd script is kinda stupid
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| 12:39 | and requires a valid display :0
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| 12:39 | br b
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| 12:40 | <lapinmalin> yes ctrl-alt-F1 i found X
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| 12:40 | <a5benwillis> gadi: Couldyou help my get xdmcp working on edubuntu?
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| 12:40 | <lapinmalin> on ctrl-alt-f2 rdesktop and shell on f3
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| 12:44 | I verify : it's seem with ps -ax that Xorg is :1.0 ???
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| 12:46 | Gadi : I've to leave. See you tomorow. THANKS for your help. THANKS very much
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| 12:51 | <Gadi> lapinmalin: im back
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| 12:51 | sorry
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| 12:51 | if Xorg is on :1, that's an issue
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| 12:51 | you need a graphical display on :0
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| 12:51 | or modify /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.d/lbussd
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| 12:52 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: sure
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| 12:52 | login as your admin user. Go to System > Administration > Login Setup
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| 12:53 | go to remote tab
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| 12:53 | change to Same as Local
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| 12:53 | then log out of gnome
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| 12:53 | ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a console
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| 12:53 | login as admin user
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| 12:53 | sudo /etc/init.d/gndm restart
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| 12:54 | sudo netstat -anp|grep :177
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| 12:54 | if you dont get a response, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart again
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| 12:54 | (gdm can be flaky)
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| 12:55 | <a5benwillis> what about the lts.conf file?
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| 12:57 | <Gadi> SCREEN_07 = startx
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| 13:00 | <a5benwillis> thanks. as soon as I recover from this grub error 18 I'll giveit another go.
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| 13:00 | <Gadi> grub error?
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| 13:01 | <a5benwillis> reinstalled edubuntu
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| 13:01 | gotan error 18 when booting
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| 13:01 | <Gadi> and you got a grub error?
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| 13:02 | <a5benwillis> yes, Its in vmware
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| 13:02 | I have to create a small 100mb partition at the beginning of the disk.
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| 13:02 | <Gadi> right
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| 13:03 | the BIOS cant find thekernel
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| 13:04 | <a5benwillis> redoing grub now..
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| 13:18 | Gadi: Well %%&%& that didnt work. Guess I'll reinstall,again///
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| 13:18 | takes hours to reinstall in a VM to. Mayhave to wait til morning.
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| 13:19 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: no need to reinstall
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| 13:19 | not for grub
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| 13:20 | what steps did you take?
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| 13:20 | <a5benwillis> I booted thelive cd
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| 13:20 | ran gparted
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| 13:20 | marked sda,2 bootable
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| 13:20 | mounted my filesystem
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| 13:20 | ran grub-install
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| 13:20 | /dev/sda
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| 13:20 | <Gadi> is sda2 at the end or beginning?
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| 13:21 | <a5benwillis> middle
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| 13:21 | Ihave this layout
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> it needs to be in the beginning of the disk
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| 13:21 | <a5benwillis> sda1(100mb), sd2(15gb etx3), sd3(600mb swap)
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| 13:21 | <Gadi> good
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| 13:21 | then 1 should be bootable
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| 13:22 | sda1 = bootable
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| 13:22 | <a5benwillis> sda1 isunformatted
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| 13:22 | <Gadi> format with ext3
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| 13:22 | then, mount it and copy /mnt/sda2/boot/* /mnt/sda1
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| 13:23 | or rather copy /mnt/sda2/boot /mnt/sda1
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| 13:24 | <a5benwillis> I'll give that a try
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| 13:25 | the live cd boots slow as christmas to lol
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| 13:25 | <Gadi> a5benwillis: the idea is you need to boot from sda1
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| 13:25 | beacuse sda1 is iwithin the first 1024 cylinders
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| 13:25 | <a5benwillis> oh ok
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| 13:25 | <Gadi> some BIOSes (and evidently vmware) only see the first 1024 cylinders
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| 13:26 | so on large drives, if you installed the boot info after everything else, and you have 1 huge partition, the bits could be past the 1024th cylinder
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| 13:26 | and the BIOS doesnt see it, so grub doesn't find a kernel
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| 13:27 | by partitioning, ur forcing the boot info into the first 1024 cylinders
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| 13:27 | <a5benwillis> makes sense. havent seen it explained that way.
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| 13:27 | * Gadi shrugs - engineers aint the best communicatators | |
| 13:27 | <Gadi> :)
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| 13:27 | <a5benwillis> lol for sure
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| 13:27 | <Gadi> PS: most modern BIOSes don't have this issue
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| 13:27 | <a5benwillis> <--- supposed to be a network engineer lmao
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| 13:28 | at least thats my title.
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| 13:28 | hehe
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| 13:28 | <Gadi> :)
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| 13:28 | if you ever get into booting from USB stick, you learn a lot about BIOSes
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| 13:28 | <bricode> Gadi: cheers to that.
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| 13:28 | <a5benwillis> Iplayed around withit a few years ago
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| 13:28 | knoppix?
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| 13:29 | <bricode> Gadi: booting from usb sticks is the devil.
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| 13:29 | <Gadi> bricode: but the devil is a sweet mistress
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| 13:29 | <ogra> Gadi, network filesystems rarely have cylinders, i think that excuses him as network engineer
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| 13:29 | :)
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| 13:29 | <a5benwillis> VMWARE needsto usgradet heir bios then :-)
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| 13:29 | <bricode> Gadi: true story. It was painful getting the OLPC stack to do what I wanted on a usb key.
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| 13:29 | <Gadi> ogra: to BIOSes, *everything* has cylinders
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| 13:30 | even USB sticks! lol
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| 13:30 | <ogra> heh
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| 13:30 | <a5benwillis> orga speaks!
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| 13:31 | <ogra> my GF would object that ...
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| 13:31 | <a5benwillis> one day, when I get this ltspstuff working, I need to ask you guys about my multi grup boot issue. On my workstation :-)
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| 13:31 | <bricode> What's a GF? ')
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| 13:31 | ;)
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| 13:31 | <ogra> heh
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| 13:32 | you are right, at least i spoke enough in my life to get one :)
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| 13:32 | <a5benwillis> matty her, then you'llnever need to talk again ;-)
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| 13:33 | marry
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| 13:33 | <ogra> right to prevent that situation i refused to marry yet ;)
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| 13:33 | <a5benwillis> <-- looks around for his wife.
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| 13:37 | <a5benwillis> mistik1: Good afternoon
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| 13:38 | gadi: Well Im about to leave for the day. I'llgive this another try. Hopefully can get it to boot.
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| 13:39 | <Gadi> its easiest when you know the theory
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| 13:39 | and now you know the theory
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| 13:39 | :)
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| 13:39 | biggest diff between Linux and Windows
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| 13:39 | in Linux, we dont gloss over the theory
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| 13:39 | whether you like it or not
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| 13:39 | :)
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| 14:13 | <bricode> Gadi: Adventure, excitement, a linux hacker craves not these things.
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| 15:13 | <cliebow> Balls:missed all he god stuff 8!(
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| 15:13 | 8~)
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| 15:13 | <jammcq> nope, the good stuff is just about to start
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| 15:17 | <cliebow> wait til i get home then..
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| 15:17 | <Lumiere> lol
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| 15:18 | <cliebow> Lumiere: have you been to ltsp-by -the sea? having trouble putting face and name together..
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| 15:19 | <Lumiere> no
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| 15:19 | I was at the booth lwce-sf
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| 15:19 | in.....?
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| 15:19 | <jammcq> Lumiere: pre-dates BTS
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| 15:19 | <astroboy> Hi, I've got ltspcfg showing 'yes' everywhere but eth1 is duplicating eth0 values. I'm stumped - can anyone suggest where to look ?
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| 15:19 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 15:19 | <cliebow> ok..just feel like i know you from somewhere..
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| 15:19 | <jammcq> astroboy: what distro?
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| 15:19 | Lumiere is now known as jstraw | |
| 15:20 | <astroboy> Etch ..
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| 15:20 | <jstraw> hi?
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| 15:20 | <jammcq> cliebow: Lumiere == jstraw
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| 15:20 | blast from the past
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| 15:20 | astroboy: on the server, run: ifconfig -a
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| 15:20 | <jstraw> Registered: 5 years 37 weeks 4 days (18h 50m 52s) ago
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| 15:20 | <jammcq> and see what it reports for IP address for each NIC
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| 15:20 | <jstraw> that's just scary
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| 15:20 | jstraw is now known as Lumiere | |
| 15:20 | <cliebow> ahhhh!i Know you from the old ltsp.org site then
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| 15:20 | <jammcq> Lumiere: how do I see when I registered?
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| 15:21 | <Lumiere> do /ns info jammcq
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| 15:21 | <jammcq> don't work :(
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| 15:21 | <ogra> on etch you really should use ltsp5
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| 15:21 | <Lumiere> ... /msg nickserv info jammcq then
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| 15:22 | <astroboy> jammcq: ifconfig eth0 shows correct values but eth1 has no inet, Bcast, or Mask .. previously had them ..
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| 15:23 | <cliebow> give me a good excuse to do lwsf 8~)
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| 15:23 | other than th two jobs im holding down summers
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| 15:26 | <astroboy> jammcq: /etc/dhcpd.conf has eth1 with subnet 169.254.65.14 .. don't know why they dropped out of ltspcfg ..
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| 15:28 | Hmm .. I'll have to shew on it ..
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| 15:28 | chew ..
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| 15:29 | <ogra> astroboy, how did you install this ltsp on etch ?
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| 15:30 | <astroboy> apt-get .. ltspadmin .. http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-en.html#AEN320
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| 15:31 | <ogra> jammcq, appratently debian recently added the ltsp-utils package .... you will get a lot of confusing support stuff with etch
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| 15:31 | :(
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| 15:31 | <astroboy> yep .. ltsp-utils
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| 15:31 | didn't see any ltsp5
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| 15:32 | <ogra> no, ltsp-server and ltsp-server-standalone are the ltsp5 packages ...
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| 15:32 | you shouldnt mix them with ltsp-utils (which is 4.2)
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| 15:33 | <astroboy> OK .. I'll apt-get them in ..
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| 15:33 | <ogra> we dropped the 4.2 package from the ubuntu arechive last release because it caused so many problems ...
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| 15:33 | <astroboy> heh .. heh
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| 15:33 | <ogra> now debian adds it at dawn of debians first ltsp5 release ... history repeats ...
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| 15:34 | and they dont even have the main/universe distinction so clever users could find out about it
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| 15:35 | <zald> how do i setup my local printer on ltsp workstation? i already included the PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0 on /opt/ltsp/i386/ltsp.conf, but still no luck
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| 15:38 | PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
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| 15:38 | <astroboy> /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf line 22: semicolon expected.
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| 15:38 | subnet
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| 15:38 | ^
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| 15:38 | <ogra> zald, try /dev/usblp0
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| 15:39 | <astroboy> .. should that be 'subnet:' ?
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| 15:39 | <ogra> zald, and /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf is the right path ...
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| 15:40 | <astroboy> ogra: I've just migrated form Ubuntu to Etch .. very similar in some ways.
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| 15:40 | <zald> ogra: yes thats where i edit the configuration
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| 15:41 | efra is now known as efra_away | |
| 15:41 | * efra_away is away: I'm out to lunch | Sali a comer | |
| 15:42 | <zald> by the way the way i setup the printer when im logon to the workstation it by using the Application->System Setting->Printing under GNOME environment, still cannot detect any local attached printer
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| 15:42 | my printer is usb hpdeskjet3820
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| 15:51 | agike is now known as astroboy | |
| 15:52 | <astroboy> I don't think 'subnet;' is the right syntax .. but why a colon ( : ) ?
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| 15:55 | apt-get remove ltsp-utils ?
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| 16:02 | <astroboy> 'ifconfig eth1' .. fixed it
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| 16:04 | efra_away is now known as efra | |
| 16:04 | * kaminski-ltsp-br is away: d | |
| 16:04 | * efra is back (gone 00:22:20) | |
| 16:04 | * kaminski-ltsp-br is back | |
| 16:04 | <Gadi> zald: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Printers
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| 16:04 | the wiki is a wonderful resource
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| 16:05 | <astroboy> ogra: I now have on old ltsp on WS01 * ltsp5 on server .. compatibility issues ?
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| 16:06 | *an old ltsp on WS01 & ltsp5 on server*
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| 16:14 | <KeepWalking_> hi
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| 16:14 | where can i create boot disk for my nic?
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| 16:15 | <jammcq> Lumiere: 5 years 49 weeks 1 day
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| 16:16 | <KeepWalking_> whats the where i can choose the network card and create a .bin to boot?
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| 16:17 | <jammcq> KeepWalking_: http://www.rom-o-matic.net
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| 16:18 | <KeepWalking_> jammcq thank you very much
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| 16:29 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> well well... navigation room .. works cool.. he
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| 17:52 | <KeepWalking_> why i cant boot with a rtl8029?
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| 17:57 | <cliebow_> 8029as?
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| 17:57 | ive had probs with that
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| 18:24 | <a5benwillis> ping ogra
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| 18:31 | <astroboy> ping ogra
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| 18:44 | <a5benwillis> good evening mistik1
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| 18:54 | <mistik1> hey a5benwillis
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| 19:01 | <cliebow_> mistik1:8~)
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| 19:08 | <a5benwillis> still working on my grub boot loader error 18. I think someone has it out for me this week.
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| 20:28 | <davidj> Oh mistik1, how are you?
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| 20:30 | <mahesis> hi
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| 20:30 | <mahesis> i need programmer apps for cyber with ltsp
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| 20:31 | i am learning python to programmer control cyber in python
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| 20:31 | i need voluntary
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| 20:33 | <davidj> mahesis: What do you need?
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| 20:44 | <Lumiere> what is cyber...
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| 20:49 | <davidj> mistik1: hey
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| 20:51 | <mistik1> hola
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| 20:54 | <jammcq> hey mistik1
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| 20:55 | <mistik1> sup bro
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| 20:56 | I'd like to report sucess on my little project of remote XP via Qemu
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| 20:57 | <jammcq> remote XP ? have you gone to the dark side?
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| 20:59 | <davidj> mistik1: Hola!
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| 20:59 | jammcq: Hola!
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| 21:02 | <mistik1> jammcq: No sir, But I must supports clowns that wont leave it
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| 21:02 | * davidj plays "Send in the Clowns" slowly, with sadness. | |
| 21:03 | <jammcq> they're already here
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| 21:03 | <mistik1> hehe
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| 21:03 | <davidj> jammcq: HEY, WHO ARE YOU CALLING A CLOWN?
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| 21:04 | <mahesis> hi davidj
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| 21:04 | you know python
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| 21:04 | i need a control cyber for ltsp5
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| 21:05 | <davidj> mahesis: What's a "control cyber"?
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| 21:11 | <mahesis> counter timer for clients
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| 21:13 | davidj: counter timer for clients
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| 21:18 | <davidj> ah, you mean you want to time clients so you know how much to charge them?
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| 21:25 | <KeepWalking_> who is on dev team?
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| 21:28 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: There are several people on the dev team. Why do you ask? ;-)
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| 21:30 | <KeepWalking_> davidj: i want to translate a doc, to spanish that it is not avaiable
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| 21:31 | i want to know what steps i have to follow
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| 21:31 | <davidj> Which doc?
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| 21:32 | KeepWalking_: Which doc is missing?
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| 21:34 | <KeepWalking_> sorry
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| 21:34 | im back
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| 21:35 | davidj: i want to translate a doc, to spanish that it is not avaiable
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| 21:35 | i want to know what steps i have to follow
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| 21:35 | davidj: can u help me?
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| 21:35 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: Yes, I can help. I'm supposed to maintain the translations
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| 21:35 | KeepWalking_: Which doc is missing>
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| 21:36 | <KeepWalking_> there is nothing in spanish, and i like to translate
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| 21:37 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: ¿Cúal es el documento que buscas?
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| 21:37 | <jammcq> davidj: i've received a new french translation of the docs, you want it?
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| 21:37 | <KeepWalking_> davidj: me referia a en la pagina no hay en espa;ol, y me gustaria traducir yo, o ya hay?
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| 21:39 | <davidj> jammcq: Oui, si'l vous plait.
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| 21:39 | (hope I spelled that right :-)
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| 21:39 | <jammcq> yeah, like I would know
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| 21:40 | <KeepWalking_> davidj:
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| 21:40 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: Creo que hemos traducidos todos los documentos al español. ¿Qué documento falta?
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| 21:40 | <mahesis> KeepWalking_: do you speak spanish?
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| 21:40 | <KeepWalking_> si si
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| 21:40 | soy argentino
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| 21:40 | <mahesis> xD
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| 21:40 | davidj: tu hablas español?
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| 21:41 | xD
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| 21:41 | <davidj> sí
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| 21:41 | <mahesis> xD
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| 21:41 | <astroboy> Hi, I'm getting "Searching for server (DHCP)" on WS01 .. I've posted lts.conf on http://pastebin.ca/375260 & /etc/dhcpd.conf on http://pastebin.ca/375262 .. shouldn't there be a kernel entry in ther somewhere ?
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| 21:41 | <mahesis> davidj: sobre que distribucion estas?
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| 21:41 | <KeepWalking_> debo estar ciego, hoy estaba mostrando la pagina, y no vimos los docs en espa;ol
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| 21:41 | <davidj> Centos (clónico RedHat)
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| 21:41 | <KeepWalking_> q papelon
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| 21:41 | <davidj> je je
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| 21:42 | <astroboy> Non habla Espanol, Senores !
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| 21:42 | <mahesis> KeepWalking_: : sobre que distribucion estas?
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| 21:42 | <davidj> astroboy: Hey, we try to help anyone here.
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| 21:42 | <KeepWalking_> mahesis: debian sarge
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| 21:42 | <astroboy> Cool ..
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| 21:42 | <KeepWalking_> astroboy: we can try english
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| 21:43 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: Dejame saber si hay errores en la documentación.
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| 21:43 | <KeepWalking_> davidj: te juro q hoy no vi la documentacion en espa;ol
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| 21:43 | <astroboy> I have a nephew riding a Kawasaki from SF to Rio .. last heard of in La Paz, Mexico
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| 21:43 | <KeepWalking_> estoy presentando un proyecto
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| 21:43 | en la universidad q trabajo
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| 21:43 | hoy mostre la pagina
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| 21:43 | y mostre todo en ingles
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| 21:44 | <astroboy> OT, I know ..
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| 21:44 | <KeepWalking_> q tarado
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| 21:45 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: Te juro que no he cambiado nada de nada en esa página en más de un mes.
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| 21:45 | KeepWalking_: Let us know how your university project goes. We would be glad to help if necessary.
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| 21:45 | <KeepWalking_> davidj: habre mirado mal, un papelon
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| 21:45 | davidj: yo queria ayudar pero ya esta hecho...
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| 21:46 | <jammcq> davidj: I've installed the updated french documentation
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| 21:46 | <KeepWalking_> davidj: es un proyecto interesante, podria conseguir unos 300 terminales para clientes, y varios servidores
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| 21:47 | <davidj> jammcq: Thanks for posting that. Is it in cvs, too_
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| 21:47 | jammcq: Thanks for posting that. Is it in cvs, too?
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| 21:47 | <jammcq> hmm, no, not in cvs
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| 21:47 | I suppose it needs to be there, eh?
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| 21:47 | * davidj can't seem to remember if he's using an american or spanish keyboard tonight. | |
| 21:48 | <davidj> jammcq: It would be nice ;-=
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| 21:48 | <KeepWalking_> se;ores me retiro.... buenas noches
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| 21:48 | <davidj> KeepWalking_: Buenas noches
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| 21:56 | <astroboy> Hmm ..
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| 21:57 | I might try the list ..
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| 21:57 | <davidj> What list?
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| 21:57 | 'night all
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| 21:57 | <astroboy> Ltsp-discuss
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| 22:00 | Actually, I think I've just spotted something .. recursive problem-solving .. [chasing one's tail]
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| 22:03 | <jammcq> hey vagrantc
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| 22:03 | <vagrantc> jammcq: evenin
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| 22:04 | <jammcq> hey, we'll be putting a tarball of the ubuntu bits up on the ltsp download site, for people to grab and install on any distro. I'd like to put a Debian tarball there as well. do you have such a tarball ?
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| 22:04 | or... maybe I can just build my own
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| 22:04 | <vagrantc> i could build one, i suppose. though etch is still kinda a moving target.
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| 22:12 | <astroboy> I'm enjoying Etch ..
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| 22:13 | .. it borrows a lot from the Ubuntu gui
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| 22:15 | I'm a bit confused, using /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc but having installed pkgs from ltsp5 such as ltsp-server ..
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| 22:24 | <vagrantc> astroboy: merely installing the packages won't do anything, you need to run ltsp-build-client, and it won't overwrite your /opt/ltsp-4.2 directories or anything, but you'll have to configure it to use /opt/ltsp/* instead
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| 22:25 | <astroboy> OK .. I've done this before but it seems a long time ago ..
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| 22:27 | running ltsp-build-client now
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| 22:46 | <astroboy> impressive, a whole new distro .. which kernel is is using ?
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| 22:47 | <vagrantc> actually, its not a new distro- that's the whole point!
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| 22:48 | on a debian system, the LTSP environment is a debian system, on an ubuntu system it's an ubuntu LTSP
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| 22:48 | <astroboy> Woops .. "error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 22:48 | " due to "Temporary failure resolving 'http.us.debian.org'
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| 22:48 | "
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| 22:48 | <jammcq> on on Suse, well...... it's either a debian or ubuntu ltsp :)
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| 22:48 | <vagrantc> ltsp 4.x and older were effectively their own distros ... and that's a lot of work.
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| 22:48 | jammcq: yes, well... :)
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| 22:49 | <jammcq> and at this point, on Fedora..... it's debian or ubuntu ltsp :)
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| 22:49 | * vagrantc has hope for gentoo | |
| 22:49 | <jammcq> yes, that'll be the 3rd one
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| 22:49 | fedora will be 4th
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| 22:51 | <astroboy> I might have to run it in the morning - my time - when connections are better.
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| 22:53 | <vagrantc> astroboy: so, to answer your questions regarding the kernel, it's using the debian kernel :)
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| 22:58 | <astroboy> Thanks. I've been impressed with ltsp for a long time .. its just good to get it running and keep it stable.
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| 23:01 | <vagrantc> well, the whole ltsp5 is adding a little instability for the moment...
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| 23:02 | <astroboy> I've got a demanding 82 yr old client who is hard to impress ..
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| 23:06 | W: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was corrupt
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| 23:07 | .. on next attempt
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| 23:08 | <vagrantc> you might want to pick a specific mirror ... http.us.debian.org is sometimes a round-robin DNS and all the mirrors in the pool may not be perfectly in sync.
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| 23:09 | <astroboy> I'm just running 'ltsp-build-client
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| 23:09 | '
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| 23:09 | Bye for now ..
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| 23:09 | <vagrantc> and i'm saying you might want to consider running "ltsp-build-client --mirror http://some-specific-mirror/debian
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| 23:09 | "
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| 23:13 | <astroboy> Thx
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| 23:18 | <vagrantc> in fact, i usually build a local mirror using "reprepro" with only the packages i use :)
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