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| 02:05 | <MRH2> hi i'm having trouble with ltsp ver 3 (yes old!) connecting to the xserver with a new kernel on the xserver
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| 02:05 | it boots ok
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| 02:06 | but what sort of kernel changes would stop a remote x session from working?
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| 02:07 | kernel on the server
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| 02:07 | <vagrantc> considering ltsp 4.2 was released in what... 2006 ?
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| 02:07 | and that's basically so old we can barely support it
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| 02:08 | maybe 2005...
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| 02:10 | <vagrantc> MRH2: so, no ill will or anything, but is there any possible way to upgrade? :)
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| 02:10 | MRH2: good luck, in any case.
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| 02:11 | <MRH2> would like to - have some old equipment with specific drivers on the terminals
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| 02:11 | but will this year
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| 02:11 | or maybe early next
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| 02:11 | lol
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| 02:13 | <MRH2> i think it might have been 2004
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| 02:18 | <MRH2> any thoughts on where i could look? nfs stuff?
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| 02:20 | the xorg file looked ok - maybe networking issues with ltsp 3 that only come to light now?
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| 02:22 | ok just too many updates to the kernel that are beyond me - i'll keep it on an old one for the mo
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| 11:43 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 11:43 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 13:20 | <alkisg> Does anyone know the meaning of this line in initramfs-tools/nbd ?
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| 13:21 | echo deadline > /sys/block/$nbdbasedev/queue/scheduler
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| 13:21 | # This should be removed once the cfq scheduler no longer deadlocks nbd devices
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| 13:21 | I'm asking because that part is there for the root device, nbd0, but not for the swap devices
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| 14:43 | <otwieracz> Hello.
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| 14:44 | Still noone have ideas why I can not log in with LDM?
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| 14:45 | http://wklej.org/id/929110/
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| 14:46 | How can I find where from the ssh is being started?
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| 14:48 | <alkisg> ssh is started from ssh.c, the plugin
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| 14:49 | There are a lot of errors in your paste; some might be due to the bind-mounts and some due to bash vs dash
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| 14:49 | It's possible that they affect LDM too, if you run it properly otherwise
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| 14:50 | <otwieracz> ssh is using /etc/ssh_config?
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| 14:51 | <alkisg> Here in Ubuntu that's /etc/ssh/ssh_config, and it also has some command-line parameters
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| 14:52 | <otwieracz> /etc/ssh/ssh_config in chroot, right?
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| 14:52 | <alkisg> What are the contents of /var/log/ldm.log?
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| 14:52 | Right
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| 14:53 | <otwieracz> So hypothetically I can set „RequestTTY” in /opt/ltsp/i686/etc/ssh/ssh_config?
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| 14:53 | <alkisg> You shouldn't have to do that though
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| 14:54 | <otwieracz> I understand.
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> How are you launching ldm?
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| 14:54 | <otwieracz> From /etc/init.d/ltsp-client
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Not from xterm, right?
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| 14:54 | <otwieracz> Right.
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> And what are the contents of /var/log/ldm.log?
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| 14:55 | <otwieracz> Please wait a second.
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| 14:55 | <alkisg> (after a login attempt)
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| 14:56 | <otwieracz> http://wklej.org/id/931548/
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| 14:57 | ldm_debug.log: http://wklej.org/id/931550/
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| 14:59 | (output from „ldm” command, I've modified screen.d/ldm: http://wklej.org/id931552/)
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| 14:59 | And modyfing /etc/ssh/ssh_config gives no effects.
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| 15:00 | <alkisg> About these: "date: invalid date ‘+%s’", /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/I01-halt-check: line 2: [: : integer expression expected
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| 15:00 | That's a bug in the ltsp script, please file a bug report with that message
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| 15:00 | !ltsp-bug
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| 15:00 | <ltsp> ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
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| 15:01 | <alkisg> That's not the problem you're having though
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| 15:01 | <otwieracz> I know.
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| 15:02 | <alkisg> About the rest, try `set -x` in some of the ldm rc.d scripts, so that all commands show in stderr, in your ldmdebug file
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| 15:02 | That way we'll see which commands produce the next errors
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| 15:04 | I don't think you're having an ssh problem; the output says it's authenticated
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| 15:04 | It sounds like an xsession problem, e.g. you just might even lack an xsession
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| 15:04 | <otwieracz> Oh.
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> Except for the `set -x` try, also put `env` somewhere there
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| 15:04 | <otwieracz> Wait.
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| 15:04 | <alkisg> To verify that your LDM_SESSION etc are all correct
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| 15:05 | <otwieracz> OK, I've probably found the problem.
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| 15:05 | Current /etc/portage/make.profile symlink: hardened/linux/amd64
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| 15:07 | I'll try to set not hardened and recompile everything.
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| 15:07 | <knipwim> hmm
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| 15:07 | the chroot?
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| 15:08 | not likely
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| 15:08 | <otwieracz> No, in server.
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| 15:08 | I remember that it makes some problems with X forwarding.
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| 15:08 | I'll try.
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| 15:08 | <knipwim> remove all your bin files
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| 15:09 | <otwieracz> What do you mean by „bin files”?
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| 15:09 | <knipwim> sorry, i'm still a bit wasted from last night
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| 15:09 | when building the client, by default binary packages are made, so the second build will be done much quicker
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| 15:10 | probably those are in /usr/portage/packages/i686/
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| 15:10 | <otwieracz> I've rebuilded whole chroot witk --usepkg=no
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| 15:11 | Two days ago.
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| 15:11 | <knipwim> and while you're rebuilding, set your locale properly in ltsp-build-client.conf
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| 15:11 | ok
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| 15:11 | <otwieracz> But tell me.
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| 15:11 | ltsp-build-client is used while ltsp-build-client?
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| 15:11 | Or also in chroot and emerge -e --usepkg=no @world?
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| 15:12 | <knipwim> huh?
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| 15:12 | ah
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| 15:12 | you're rebuilding from within the chroot
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| 15:12 | not create a new one
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| 15:15 | in the chroot, your make.profile should be linked to /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0
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| 15:15 | ls -lh /etc/portage/make.profile
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| 15:16 | /etc/portage/make.profile -> /var/lib/layman/ltsp/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/ltsp/
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| 15:16 | and cat /etc/portage/make.profile/parent
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| 15:16 | /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0
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| 15:18 | that's hardcoded
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| 15:18 | you cannot have made a hardened server
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| 15:18 | erm, hardened client
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| 15:37 | <otwieracz> in chroot:
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| 15:37 | Current /etc/portage/make.profile symlink: ltsp:default/linux/x86/10.0/ltsp
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| 15:39 | euclid / # ls -lh /etc/portage/make.profile
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| 15:39 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 58 Jan 16 13:49 /etc/portage/make.profile -> /var/lib/layman/ltsp/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0/ltsp/
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| 15:39 | euclid / # cat /etc/portage/make.profile/parent
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| 15:39 | /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0
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| 15:39 | So looks good.
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| 15:39 | ../../../../../ltsp
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| 15:45 | <otwieracz> I have to go for a 2 hours.
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| 17:23 | <otwieracz> I'm back.
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| 18:29 | <otwieracz> Nope, still did not helped.
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| 21:11 | <otwieracz> knipwim: offline?
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| 21:12 | alkisg: offline?
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| 21:12 | <alkisg> otwieracz: ?
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| 21:13 | <otwieracz> You have no futher ideas what can be wrong with my LTSP server?
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| 21:13 | s/server/setup/
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> otwieracz: I've never even seen gentoo, but I asked about the environment and about ssh -x
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| 21:14 | Did you pastebin those?
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| 21:15 | set -x, sorry
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| 21:15 | <otwieracz> In every script, right?
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| 21:15 | in rc.d?
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| 21:15 | <alkisg> No, the first one in each ACTION
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| 21:15 | I.e. the first X, the first I etc
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| 21:15 | <otwieracz> ok
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| 21:15 | <alkisg> Maybe just in ldm-script
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| 21:15 | As that's the one that sources the others
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| 21:16 | /usr/share/ldm/ldm-script
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| 21:16 | <otwieracz> Yep, Im rebooting thin client
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> Also, check that you can manually run the command that LDM runs to launch the X session
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| 21:17 | E.g. if you're trying to run gnome-session on the server, and it's not installed... :)
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| 21:20 | <otwieracz> http://wklej.org/id/932185/
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| 21:20 | <alkisg> otwieracz: you can also call `xterm` somewhere from those scripts, this should give you a debugging environment
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| 21:24 | <alkisg> otwieracz: you have localapps yet no sshfs, how are you mounting the local /home?
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| 21:24 | <otwieracz> I do not understand.
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| 21:25 | <alkisg> The client /home is on a different file system than the client /
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| 21:25 | <otwieracz> Yes.
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| 21:25 | <alkisg> You're using NFS with bind-mounts... so... hm...
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| 21:25 | So / is NFS, and /home is tmpfs?
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| 21:26 | <otwieracz> Looks like.
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| 21:26 | http://wklej.org/id/932200/
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| 21:27 | <alkisg> The localapps code breaks in that environment
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| 21:27 | <otwieracz> This is default setup.
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| 21:28 | <alkisg> In your .dmrc, you have Session=rio
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| 21:28 | And LDM_SESSION=/usr/bin/urxvt
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| 21:28 | Which session do you want the clients to run?
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| 21:29 | I think the client will try to run LDM_SESSION=/usr/local/plan9port/bin/rio
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| 21:30 | LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=true ==> is your client nouveau?
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| 21:31 | <otwieracz> No.
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| 21:31 | <alkisg> ssh -Y -t -S /var/run/ldm_socket_5669_server server ' LTSP_CLIENT=10.10.1.148 LTSP_CLIENT_HOSTNAME=hp-t5720 LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=true LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 DISPLAY=10.10.1.148:7 PULSE_SERVER=tcp:10.10.1.148:4713 ESPEAKER=10.10.1.148:16001 LTSP_ALSA_DEFAULT=pulse /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession "/usr/local/plan9port/bin/rio" < /dev/null > /dev/null ; /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter all cleanup
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| 21:32 | ==> this is what you should try manually
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| 21:32 | I.e. open an xterm locally, then ssh to the server, and run the rest of the command
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| 21:32 | <otwieracz> Yep.
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| 21:32 | I will.
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| 21:33 | <alkisg> E.g. "X11 forwarding request failed" might mean a problem in your sshd configuration
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| 23:11 | <oo-dragon> hello, I have been searching all day trying to get my LTSP in Edubuntu (12.04) to auto mount windows user shares. I think I need some help. The main sources I have been going to are the man page for pam_mount and a older active directory integration (says its for 9.04)
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| 23:12 | <oo-dragon> Lots of google searches come up with old documents that may not apply to 12.04 and the ones I try any way don't seem to work
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| 23:12 | any assist in getting this working would be appricated
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| 23:19 | <Hyperbyte> oo-dragon, no idea really
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| 23:19 | But
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| 23:19 | This question isn't LTSP related.
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| 23:19 | You could ask questions like this in #ubuntu
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| 23:20 | Also, it might help if you explained your problem better... I have no idea what "automounting Windows user shares" means.
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| 23:24 | <oo-dragon> well its for clients in LTSP
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| 23:24 | basically I'm integrating LTSP into a windows Active directory domain
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| 23:24 | and I want the user shares from windows to be auto mounted in LTSP, so they can go back and forth between platforms
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| 23:28 | <Hyperbyte> Still not an LTSP question per say.
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| 23:29 | You'd have to run the mount after login of course, else you don't know which user to mount as. How about creating a script that automounts the CIFS filesystem? You can create a .desktop file for the script in /etc/xdg/autostart/ so it runs during login
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| 23:29 | <oo-dragon> yes though... cause it has to happen at the LTSP clients login. if it was just mounting locally for a single user, wouldn't be so bad
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| 23:30 | <Hyperbyte> It doesn't have to happen at LTSP client login, does it? It could happen when the graphical desktop launches.
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| 23:30 | <oo-dragon> your right
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| 23:31 | tell me more about this /etc/xdg/autostart ^_^
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| 23:31 | <Hyperbyte> # ls /etc/xdg/autostart
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| 23:32 | http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html
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| 23:33 | <oo-dragon> reading and trying now. Thanks, and I'l let you know what happens ;)
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| 23:34 | <Hyperbyte> Feel free
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| 23:34 | However, and this is why I pointed you to #ubuntu... I'm off to bed. ;-)
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| 23:34 | Not sure if anyone else is reading along to help you further, but I'm off to dreamland.
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| 23:34 | G'night.
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| 23:35 | <oo-dragon> thanks again ^_^
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| 23:35 | night
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