IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 2 December 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:54 | <bennabiy> vagrantc: quick question for you. Are you still doing anything with virt in debian?
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| 07:47 | <navgou> #help
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| 08:29 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 08:29 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 09:45 | <roces4> hello
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| 09:45 | how to configure shutdown all pc's in ltsp
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| 09:46 | #!/bin/bash # # P. Baco - Carlit.net # Crontab LTSP script # # This script, when started from lts.conf "RCFILE_XX = /etc/ltsp/crontab.sh" # will add up to 10 tasks to the thin client's root crontab. # Tasks are defined as regular crontab lines in lts.conf variables # "CRONTAB_01" to "CRONTAB_10" # ex: # CRONTAB_01 = "30 20 * * 1-5 /sbin/halt" # will halt the thin client at 20:30 monday to friday # # Note: Requires crontab t
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| 09:46 | whis is script
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| 09:47 | help me please
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| 15:26 | <gothaggis|work> hello, I have a Ubuntu 10.04 LTSP server and would like to upgrade it to 12.04. What is the proper way to do this? The normal Ubuntu upgrade way? And how does it affect thin clients - for example should I assume that profiles for apps like Thunderbird and Firefox will be lost?
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| 15:28 | <Hyperbyte> gothaggis|work, hi
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| 15:29 | Actually, I imagine that things like Thunderbird and Firefox profiles will be the easy thing to keep going
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| 15:29 | Keeping the thin client part/netbooting properly working is the difficult part I think. Not sure if the upgrade part works properly.
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| 15:30 | The LTSP from 10.04 and 12.04 are very, very different. You'd have to upgrade the server and then rebuild the client completely, that might work. But I have no experience with that.
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| 15:30 | <gothaggis|work> yeah, I'm thinking it may just be easier to set up a new server with 12.04 and then copy the home directories over once its working
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| 15:30 | <Hyperbyte> Myself, I'd always set up a new server,
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| 15:31 | <gothaggis|work> thats good to know, thanks
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| 15:33 | <Hyperbyte> Also, nowadays I always set up LTSP inside a virtual machine.
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| 15:33 | CentOS 6.4 with Ubuntu 12.04 virtual machine
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| 15:34 | Gives me lots of flexibility with doing upgrades or even migrating to a new distro version or new hardware.
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| 18:38 | <b3x> I want to be able to ssh into thin clients, does anyone know what needs to be able to do to get that to work? i reset the root password in the chroot, and ssh is listening on the thin clients, but i get an immediate drop when i try to connect
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| 18:39 | <other_other_joe> try ssh -vvv to see where it's failing
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| 18:42 | <b3x> i get a Could not load "/root/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key however it continues after that .. til finally i see a debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent followed by a COnnection closed
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| 18:48 | <b3x> i should see SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT recieved
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| 18:54 | <kev_j> Just wondering... would it be possible, and if so would it be smart (or conversely stupid...), to setup kerberized nfs for the home directories on ltsp?
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| 18:56 | I know that it usually uses sshfs to mount things, but I think I remember reading about using nfs in the man pages... I am more curious as what your opinions would be for whether nfs (with krb) would be any more/less secure, and if there would really be any positives or negatives that I would not think to look for.
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| 19:03 | <kev_j> or if I should just do a better job of using google you can tell me that too ;)
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| 19:06 | <vagrantc> kev_j: in theory t should work, and would be better than plain NFS homedirs
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| 19:07 | kev_j: there is at least one bug in debian about it: http://bugs.debian.org/src:ltsp
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| 19:08 | kev_j: if kerberized nfsv4 actally handles encryption, i could see it being a better option than sshfs, although more complicated to set up
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| 19:08 | kev_j: my goal would be to allow the homedir mounting to allow for arbitrary filesystems/methods
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| 19:23 | <kev_j> vagrantc: Thanks, I am using openafs right now and that is not being too friendly for a multitude of reason.. especially with localapps stuffs. So yeah, thinking NFS might be a better approach
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| 19:23 | and I think that nfs v4 does support gssapi / kerberos encryption, but I will have to research that a bit more
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| 19:24 | reasons*
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| 19:44 | <b3x> wtf would cause jetpipe to stop running as soon as someone logs into a thin client?
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| 20:15 | <vagrantc> alkisg: regarding cdpingerless ltspfs... the last steps are to find some rules for debain that create add/remove events after insertion?
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| 20:16 | alkisg: possibly by digging through the rules on ubuntu
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| 20:18 | <vagrantc> alternately, we could just install the extra rules i've got for debian only
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| 20:22 | * vagrantc wonders about other distros | |
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| 20:36 | <vagrantc> stgraber: it's probably time to sync ldm from debian. It should work out of the box.
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| 20:37 | stgraber: ltsp sync may require a bit more work
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| 20:37 | although not a lot
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| 20:38 | <stgraber> ok, let me quickly see what kind of delta we have on ldm (if any) and I'll trigger a sync if that looks sane
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| 20:39 | <vagrantc> i made it not recommend ldm-themes when built on non-debian, and i foget te other patch
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| 20:41 | the other was: automake --force related, which was fixed upstream
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| 20:41 | or rather, i merged the patch upstream
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| 20:42 | <stgraber> yep, looks good. The merge result looks a bit weird for the automake force stuff but I'll take your word for it and sync. We'll know soon enough if it fails to build on arm64 :)
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| 20:44 | <stgraber> synced
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| 20:45 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 20:46 | stgraber: i think the original patch used the shorthand options, and i switched to use longhand automake options
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| 20:47 | also, i've been building the .orig.tar.gz without the autofoo included, so it might work without the --force
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| 20:52 | <b3x> anyone have any good tips for troubleshooting jetpipe? it seems to start up and then goes away at login
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| 20:52 | i can start a xterm using ltsp-localapps and start it as root .. jetpipe /dev/usb/lp0 9100 .. but it doesnt want to stay running
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| 20:56 | <stgraber> vagrantc: synced package built fine on all arches (including arm64), so looks like we're back in sync for that one
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| 20:56 | <vagrantc> yay
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| 20:57 | <vagrantc> stgraber: i've been holding off on an ltspfs upload to finally kill off cdpinger, but we're kinda stalled a the moment
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| 20:58 | differences in udev between ubuntu and debian require some other rules
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| 20:58 | no idea with other distros
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| 21:00 | <stgraber> bzr reports 249 conflicts when attempting to merge the Ubuntu and Debian packaging, seems like I'll have to try and do that by hand since I suspect the tool is lying to me :)
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| 21:01 | <vagrantc> ouch
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| 21:09 | <stgraber> vagrantc: that looks more like it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6511246/
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| 21:29 | <stgraber> vagrantc_: I have just done a quick merge of the current Debian package and the Ubuntu one. Indeed quite a few changes are left, a fair chunk of which should be fine to apply to Debian
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| 21:30 | <vagrantc_> stgraber: cool
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| 21:30 | stgraber: i could do another upload sometime in the next week or two, if we can reduce or eliminate the diff, that'd be great
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| 21:39 | <stgraber> running a test build now to see if I missed up something :)
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| 21:51 | Status: successful
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| 21:52 | so looks like I didn't mess it up in any significant way :)
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| 21:52 | I'll push that to the archive and test it one of those days.
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| 21:53 | <vagrantc_> heh
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| 21:53 | * vagrantc_ waves | |
| 21:54 | <stgraber> uploaded
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