IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 May 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 10:01 | <Q-FUNK> seems that Ubuntu just left us. starting with Maverick, libc6 is compiled for i686. as a result, Geodes and older processors typically used on LTSP clients won't be supported.
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| 10:02 | stgraber: please tell me that doko is joking on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186
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| 12:27 | <johnny> Q-FUNK, how long did you expect them to keep that?
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| 12:27 | fedora has done the same
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| 12:29 | <Q-FUNK> johnny: and how does the fact that fedora did it make it right?
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| 12:29 | <johnny> didn't say it did
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| 12:29 | only that things are moving away from i586
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| 12:29 | <Q-FUNK> the jump was straight from 486 to 686
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| 12:30 | 586 would actually remain usable
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| 12:30 | <johnny> i have a feeling it's not a oke
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| 12:30 | joke
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| 12:30 | Q-FUNK, perhaps it means that sbalneav's idea of a more minimal distro for chroots might be a good idea
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| 12:31 | or just using plain debian perhaps..
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| 12:32 | <Q-FUNK> might as well orphan the whole LTSP project
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| 12:34 | <johnny> i have a feeling that the required drivers won't be maintained upstream in the kernel at some point for such things in the next few years anyways
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| 12:34 | <Q-FUNK> which drivers?
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| 12:34 | <johnny> most especially in the graphics area
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| 12:34 | somebody has already ported them to kms?
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| 12:35 | <Q-FUNK> depends. amd recently assigned a new team to that and former OLPC guys recently became generic Geode developers.
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| 12:35 | <johnny> ah, well that's better news than i expected
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| 12:35 | the drivers sounded pretty orphaned..
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| 12:35 | <Q-FUNK> well, KMS is low-priority. it's a nice feature but it's not the end of the world either.
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| 12:35 | naa
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| 12:35 | <johnny> until X requires it
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| 12:36 | in any case.. i doubt they have much more than a year or 2 of life left
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| 12:36 | <Q-FUNK> the driver simply became low-maintenance once all goals had been reached.
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| 12:36 | KMS and merging support for older geodes were just nice to have
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| 12:37 | <johnny> perhaps a survey should be done to prove your point
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| 12:37 | for how many people actually require i586
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| 12:37 | none of my clients do
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| 12:37 | none of freegeek's do
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| 12:37 | none of the many other larger installs around here do either
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| 12:37 | <Q-FUNK> thin clients?
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| 12:37 | <johnny> yes
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| 12:38 | i just think you might be overstating the "orphaning of the ltsp project"
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| 12:38 | <Q-FUNK> most thin client hardware out there uses soome geode variant and they are all 586
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| 12:38 | <johnny> but.. numbers could prove me wrong
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| 12:39 | tons of people use repurposed desktop computers, which are almost all 686
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| 12:39 | <johnny> i thought all the diskelss workstation stuff was 686 as well
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| 13:57 | <rhodan> Hi, I'm looking for a distributed storage solution.
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| 13:58 | I want a fistful of clients to boot over the net and have caches.
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| 13:58 | But the caches should be served, too. Like a meshed RAID over Ethernet.
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| 13:59 | GlusterFS could do that, but it would lack the dynamic component. The system should be able to cope with all clients shut down and only one server standing, too.
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| 13:59 | Also, GlusterFS doesn't provide security mechanisms.
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| 14:00 | AFS has Kerberos and encryption, but the caches are private.
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