IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 April 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:03 | <phls> hi
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| 02:37 | <Bhaskar1> hi, anyone is there? i want to ask LTSP 5 integration in debian based linux how??
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| 02:48 | <Bhaskar1> Hello everybody< anyone is there who have experience to integrate LTSP 5 in debian
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| 02:56 | Can i built LTSP 6.0 in other disrto such as debian
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| 03:00 | <Bhaskar1> MoL0ToV, hi
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| 03:03 | <MoL0ToV> hi Bhaskar1
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| 03:04 | <Bhaskar1> MoL0ToV, have u idea to integrate LTSP 5.0 in debian based linux?
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| 03:04 | <ogra> Bhaskar1, if the distro is debian based you can just use the ubuntu or debian packages
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| 03:04 | <MoL0ToV> Bhaskar1, i'm a lamer in LTSP
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| 03:04 | but i can help to integrate into gentoo (my preferred distro)
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| 03:05 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, i used debian based package from tarball, my dist is crashed?
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| 03:05 | <ogra> ??
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| 03:05 | can you elaborate ?
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| 03:06 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, ya i use apt-get install e
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| 03:07 | ogra, i downloaded debian package and start to build client , then the distro is crashed
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| 03:07 | <MoL0ToV> where i can find a howto make work the usb-storage on thin-clients?
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| 03:07 | <ogra> MoL0ToV, depends, ltsp 4.2 or 5 ?
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| 03:08 | <MoL0ToV> ogra, on a general Xorg client
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| 03:08 | <ogra> Bhaskar1, so you first installed th etarball and then you used apt-get install ltsp-server and ltsp-build-client ?
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| 03:08 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, ya
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| 03:09 | <ogra> MoL0ToV, it works differently in the two ltsp versions ...
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| 03:10 | MoL0ToV, which distro are you using ?
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| 03:10 | <MoL0ToV> ogra, gentoo
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| 03:11 | <ogra> and how did you install ltsp ?
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| 03:11 | <MoL0ToV> i didn't install yes i simply followed this howto: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Diskless_X_terminal_with_read-only_root
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| 03:11 | but i want to complete the wiki with info to make client usb-storage work
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| 03:12 | can you help me?
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| 03:12 | audio already works
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| 03:13 | <ogra> thats using XDMCP like ltsp 4.2 ... search on wiki.ltsp.org for ltspfs
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| 03:14 | <MoL0ToV> ok thanks!
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| 03:14 | <ogra> Bhaskar1, how did your system crash ? did it hardlock, did the screen just turn black etc ...
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| 03:15 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, when i login it again login again and again...
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| 03:15 | <ogra> the server you mean ?
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| 03:15 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, ya
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| 03:16 | <ogra> that doesnt sound like ltsp could have something to do with it ...
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| 03:16 | are you sure your disk isnt full or something ?
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| 03:16 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, ya
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| 03:17 | ogra, but i can login in tty1
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| 03:19 | <ogra> and your display manager dioesnt show an error message ?
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| 03:19 | ususally gdm shows errors ...
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| 03:19 | i guess kdm as well
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| 03:20 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, no error
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| 03:21 | ogra, tell me the proper way of integrating LTSP 5.0 in debias based distro
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| 03:26 | <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 03:26 | its the same for debian
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| 03:27 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, ok
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| 03:32 | <Bhaskar1> ogra, it is online process, any idea to ofline installation?
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| 03:34 | <ogra> ltsp-build-client --extra-help ;)
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| 03:34 | you can use the --mirror option like: ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom ....
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| 03:34 | if you have a debian/ubuntu CD around
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| 03:35 | <Bhaskar1> i have downloaded 143 MB package of LTSP 5, now i want to install thee in offline coz i have very slow Band width
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| 04:20 | <siji> hello i need smal help regarding the sound which is not coming in the clients machine.the machines are fully configured an working properly only the sound iis not coming what can i do ???????
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| 04:22 | <ogra> which distro / ltsp version ?
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| 04:22 | <siji> 4.2
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| 04:22 | <ogra> there are docs about sound on wiki.ltsp.org
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| 04:26 | <siji> thank you i will try and get u back if it doesnt work
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| 04:30 | i am unable to download that file which has been mentioned in that document ltsp-sound-1.0-0.2.tar.bz2 .the file has been emoved
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| 04:31 | can you give me the exact location where can i get that file from
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| 04:33 | <ogra> no, i'm only working on ltsp5 ... the right location should be on the wiki somewhere
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| 05:07 | <richguit> hi siji: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 05:07 | or http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/SoundCards
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| 08:03 | <jammcq> g'morning friends
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| 08:05 | <ogra> meep meep
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| 08:05 | jammcq, the feisty tarball needs updating
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| 08:08 | <jammcq> yep
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| 08:08 | is fiesty coming out tomorrow?
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| 08:11 | <ogra> well, eles i'd be pretty angry that i have to write a release announcement today ;)
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| 08:11 | *else
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| 08:12 | <jammcq> well, there ya go
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| 08:12 | <ogra> since canonoical might fear my wrath we *might* release tomorrow *g*
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| 08:24 | <jammcq> bengoa: bom dia
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| 08:24 | <bengoa> jammcq, hi Jim! Bom dia!
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| 08:25 | jammcq, how are you ?
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| 08:25 | <jammcq> doing great. How's things in Porto Alegre today?
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| 08:26 | <bengoa> nice! Here the things are fine. The airport is closed because of fog :)
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| 08:26 | <jammcq> wow
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| 08:26 | I'm glad we left on Monday
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| 08:27 | <bengoa> heh. In the middle of the morning the fog get out and the airport became to operate
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| 08:28 | I'll travel friday very morning. It's possible that I'll have to wait the fog go up.
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| 08:29 | <jammcq> are you going back up to Sao Paulo ?
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| 08:30 | <bengoa> no, now I'll will go to Belém, Para
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| 08:30 | <jammcq> work ?
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| 08:30 | <bengoa> is in the Amazon too
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| 08:30 | yes, work.
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| 08:30 | <jammcq> cool
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| 08:30 | <mhterres> hello
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| 08:30 | <jammcq> Marcelo !!!
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| 08:31 | <mhterres> Jim
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| 08:31 | <bengoa> in the another side of the country
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| 08:31 | it's more close from you that my own house :)
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| 08:31 | <mhterres> yep :-)
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| 08:57 | <jammcq> !s
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| 08:57 | <ltspbot> jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:57 | <bengoa> hehehe
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| 08:58 | ltspbot learn bbq as Churrasco
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| 08:58 | <ltspbot> bengoa: The operation succeeded.
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| 08:58 | <bengoa> !bbq
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| 08:58 | <ltspbot> bengoa: "bbq" is Churrasco
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| 08:58 | <bengoa> :)
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| 08:58 | <jammcq> :)
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| 09:02 | <sbalneav> Morning!!!
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| 09:03 | <bengoa> sbalneav, Bom Dia :)
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| 09:03 | <jammcq> sbalneav: so, you made it home ok ?
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| 09:03 | <mhterres> morning
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| 09:03 | <sbalneav> Yes, was completely exhausted
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| 09:04 | Ate some dinner, lounged in front of the TV, and went to bed.
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| 09:04 | <jammcq> heh
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| 09:04 | <sbalneav> Back at 'er this morning.
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| 09:16 | <lordbf1> hello easy question i hope. how do i start xdmcp?
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| 09:17 | <sbalneav> !xdmcp
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| 09:17 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "xdmcp" is not a valid command.
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| 09:17 | <sbalneav> !grey_screen
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| 09:17 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: Error: "grey_screen" is not a valid command.
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| 09:17 | <sbalneav> foo!
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| 09:18 | hold on.
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| 09:18 | !topics
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| 09:18 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "topics" is To get a list of topics, type ltspbot: factoids search --values
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| 09:18 | <sbalneav> factoids search --values
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| 09:18 | !factoids search --values
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| 09:18 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', 'download', 'monkeys', 'ogra', 'nfs', 'nfsnotresp', 'j', 'j', (1 more message)
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| 09:18 | <sbalneav> !greyscreen
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| 09:18 | <ltspbot> sbalneav: "greyscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen
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| 09:18 | <sbalneav> There we go
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| 09:18 | There's a section on XDMCP on the wiki, and that page has troubleshooting on getting it running
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| 09:20 | <lordbf1> thanks got it running.
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| 09:21 | i am running ltsp in opensuse 10.2 is there a better os to use?
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| 09:22 | <sbalneav> You've already made the right choice in running Linux. After that, it's just how much window dressing you want :)
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| 09:22 | A lot of us love Ubuntu, and run it. But any choice is a good one.
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| 09:22 | <cliebow__> jammcq: you around?i'm bumping one school to 4.2 but the chroot seems awful empty..
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| 09:22 | <jammcq> cliebow__: yeah, I'm here
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| 09:22 | <lordbf1> thanks guys!
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| 09:22 | <cliebow__> i used ltsp-utils 0.25
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| 09:23 | <jammcq> I think that's the latest
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| 09:23 | <cliebow__> but /opt/ltsp/i386/etc seems incomplete..
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| 09:23 | no /etc/version for instance
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| 09:23 | i see i believe all packsages in pkg_cache
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| 09:23 | <jammcq> cliebow__: look in /etc/ltsp.conf, see what LTSP_DIR is set to
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| 09:24 | <cliebow__> k
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| 09:24 | ahh /opt/ltsp-4.2
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| 09:24 | <jammcq> yeah, you must have had a previous version in /opt/ltsp
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| 09:25 | <cliebow__> yes i did..ltsp-4.2 looks fine
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| 09:25 | <jammcq> our "upgrade path" is really a "allow multiple versions"
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| 09:25 | so, either change your 'root-path' to point to /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386, or blow away the old /opt/ltsp, and rename /opt/ltsp-4.2 to /opt/ltsp
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| 09:26 | <cliebow__> ok.. i can adjust that alright..i move my 4.0 to /opt/ltsp/i386-4.0 and ran ltsp-utilsi used the defaults
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| 09:26 | all set then..
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| 09:26 | ill give that whirl
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| 09:43 | <cliebow__> Godfrey..they boot fast...
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| 09:43 | heading back for school
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| 09:44 | thew other one..8~)
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| 10:32 | <paavum> Hi
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| 10:32 | Me again :s
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| 10:32 | Anybody here?
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| 10:33 | I still cant get the bluetooth thing right on ltsp
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| 10:33 | was kinda wondering if anybody would help me out a bit
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| 10:34 | <sbalneav> Bluetooth?
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| 10:34 | Man, we've done NO work on that at all
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| 10:34 | What are you trying to do?
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: we're going to have to get upstream ltspfs up to speed in sevilla :)
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| 10:35 | <sbalneav> That would be the time to work on it.
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| 10:37 | * Gadi watches as the LTSP salmon struggle to swim upstream | |
| 10:38 | * vagrantc smiles | |
| 10:38 | * ogra wants virtual hal devices and intends to work on that | |
| 10:39 | * Guaraldo is here as promissed to sbalneav... | |
| 10:39 | * jammcq is wondering which new friend is Guaraldo | |
| 10:40 | <Guaraldo> jammcq: Luiz Guaraldo, Propus/RS - Brazil!
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| 10:41 | <jammcq> ah, Luiz
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| 10:41 | we've got the whole propus team :)
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| 10:41 | * Guaraldo smiles! | |
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| 12:20 | <lordbf1> hello again! any luck with haveing FireFox open serveral times in the same profile on different nodes?
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| 12:35 | <envite> Helloa ll
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| 12:35 | Hola a todos desde España
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| 12:35 | hey ogra, or cliebow
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| 12:35 | can you help me witha n issue?
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| 12:36 | or anybody :)
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| 12:38 | <cliebow_> i can try....
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| 12:38 | <envite> :)
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| 12:38 | I've a client that does not want to boot
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| 12:38 | <IRCzito> envite: what's the problem?
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| 12:38 | <cliebow_> i am like 0 for one this week
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| 12:38 | <envite> it boots the kernel
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| 12:39 | but then it says NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out
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| 12:39 | ERROR! dhcpcd failed!
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| 12:39 | <cliebow_> which kernel..?
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| 12:39 | <envite> and kernelpanics
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| 12:40 | cliebow: 2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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| 12:40 | <cliebow_> agh hah
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| 12:40 | drop back to 2.6.16.1..
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| 12:40 | <envite> trying...
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| 12:40 | <cliebow_> some cards go all wobbly with the newer kernel
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| 12:41 | <envite> its a rtl
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| 12:42 | <cliebow_> hmm.it "ought to be ok" but i knoe there were some probs with 17
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| 12:43 | <envite> same problem with 16
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| 12:43 | <cliebow_> embedded? or can you toss it? there is wide variation in cards with rtl 8139x
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| 12:43 | <envite> NETDEV WATCHDOG
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| 12:43 | <IRCzito> envite: whath the version of the ltsp?
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| 12:43 | <envite> 8139D
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| 12:43 | IRCzito 4.2
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| 12:43 | <IRCzito> change the slot of the network card
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| 12:44 | <cliebow_> maybe..
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| 12:44 | <envite> it's an old tower computer, thus its a normal pci card
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| 12:44 | <IRCzito> I can't explain, but it's work for me
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| 12:44 | <cliebow_> ive bought some cards that were a real pain..Blue they were..with rtl8139d
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| 12:45 | * cliebow_ cliebow reaches for one and runs his chair over ir | |
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| 12:46 | <IRCzito> I have some rtl8139D that work, and others that don't
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| 12:48 | <envite> buf
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| 12:48 | i'm trying with another computer (3com card) and it boots
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| 12:49 | so i'll conlcude that rtl8139d and sis9000 are bad cards :(
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| 13:09 | <envite> well, I'm leaving
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| 13:09 | thanks, IRCzito and cliebow
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| 14:29 | <mhterres> OT: anybody here can help me with RHEL ?
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| 14:29 | to be exactly: Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES release 4 (Nahant Update 3)
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| 14:36 | <jammcq> mhterres: how about you tell us what kind of problem you are having with RHEL4 ?
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| 14:37 | <mhterres> hmmm, I need to install the mysql headers to compile PHP with mysql support and I don't know where can I found the packages and how to do that :-)
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| 14:38 | <jammcq> do you have rhn support ?
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| 14:38 | <mhterres> You know that I'm a Debian/Ubuntu user, so it is strange for me :-)
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| 14:38 | yep
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| 14:38 | but I don't want to ask them for this kind of help
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| 14:38 | it is too basic :-)
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| 14:38 | <jammcq> ok, right
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| 14:38 | but you should be able to do this:
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| 14:38 | up2date --showall -l | grep mysql
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| 14:39 | once you find the name of the package, you can do:
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| 14:39 | up2date --dry-run --install my_package_name
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| 14:39 | and if it looks ok, try again, without the --dry-run
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| 14:40 | <mhterres> hmmm, great :-)
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| 14:41 | I imagine that, the problem is that our client can't find the subscription code for this server :-/
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| 14:41 | <jammcq> oh, then yer screwed
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| 14:41 | <mhterres> So I was thinking in install the mysql package version that came in CD
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| 14:41 | jammcq, Yeah, I know
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| 14:43 | anybody know how can I install the mysql-devel package from the installation CD ?
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| 14:44 | <jammcq> oh
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| 14:44 | that's easy
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| 14:44 | have you mounted the cd ?
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| 14:44 | go find the package you want
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| 14:44 | and do: rpm -ivh my_package_name
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| 14:47 | <mhterres> ok, thanks
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| 14:49 | They'll put the CD in the server
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| 15:09 | <mhterres> Last time I used a RH was in 97 when I bought an Infomagic box with 6 CDs and the Running Linux book :-)
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| 19:54 | <dtrask> oli!
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| 19:54 | hola!
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| 19:58 | bye guys....gotta go work on my presentation for UES....might jump back on later from my other laptop
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| 19:58 | <ogra> hey you catched me on the way to bed :)
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| 19:59 | <dtrask> oh hey!
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| 19:59 | figured you were up late6
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| 19:59 | <ogra> looking forward to meet you :)
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| 19:59 | <dtrask> looking forward to seeing you again
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| 19:59 | :-)
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| 20:00 | I'll be there around 13:00 on the 2nd
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| 20:00 | <ogra> yeah, i always struggle with writing release announcements :)
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| 20:00 | that kept me up long
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| 20:01 | * jammcq still has no plane tickets, so no idea when he'll get there | |
| 20:01 | <dtrask> hey...I'm testing Feisty....you deserve a pat on the back....very nice
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| 20:01 | <ogra> grreat ... i'm not yet sure when i'll arrive, i fly via malaga and take the train from there
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| 20:02 | ah, well ... it would be nocer if we could sent both CDs through shipit ...
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| 20:02 | *nicer
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| 20:02 | but the marketing team didnt like the extra costs :P
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| 20:02 | <dtrask> hope you are there the evening of the 2nd...otherwise who will Matt and I have dinner with?
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| 20:03 | ;-)
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| 20:03 | <ogra> heh, i guess i'll be there in the evening ...
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| 20:03 | <dtrask> hmmmm....we need a US based shipit distributor
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| 20:03 | Yay!
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| 20:03 | look forward to it....beer's on me
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| 20:04 | <ogra> great :) tapas are on me then :)
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| 20:04 | <jammcq> mmmmm, beer
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| 20:04 | mmmmm, tapas
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| 20:04 | <ogra> mmmm
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| 20:04 | i registered my first two specs today :)
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| 20:04 | <jammcq> mmmm, specs
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| 20:04 | <ogra> heh
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| 20:05 | <dtrask> I'm psyched....better be good weather.....all we've had here is snow and more snow
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| 20:05 | <ogra> and i saw moquist was also busy :)
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| 20:05 | * jammcq is guessing it'll be fairly warm there | |
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| 20:05 | <ogra> yeah
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| 20:06 | europe is pretty warm everywhere atm
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| 20:06 | * dtrask not worried about snow, but rather.,.rain | |
| 20:06 | <jammcq> and the US is pretty cold everywhere
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| 20:06 | 45F here
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| 20:06 | <dtrask> 32 here
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| 20:06 | 0 c
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| 20:06 | <cliebow_> frigin freezing here
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| 20:06 | <ogra> we*re about one month ahead in the year temperature wise
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| 20:07 | <dtrask> we're not suffering from global warming yet
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| 20:07 | had a massive storm this week
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| 20:07 | <cliebow_> or are we..they say when the gulf stream caraps out
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| 20:07 | <dtrask> how's the flooding cliebow?
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| 20:07 | <cliebow_> we are in for it
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| 20:07 | not a prob here..
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| 20:08 | <dtrask> rain or snow?
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| 20:08 | <cliebow_> just some beach erosion and a coule roads you cant use..
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| 20:08 | <dtrask> so Ogra....you mean it'll feel like mid-summer?
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| 20:08 | <cliebow_> jammcq:seawall motel was an island for a while
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| 20:08 | <dtrask> :-)
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| 20:08 | <cliebow_> or a least a penninsula
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| 20:09 | <dtrask> oh no!
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| 20:09 | <ogra> likely, yes
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| 20:09 | its pretty far south
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| 20:09 | nearly africa
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| 20:09 | <cliebow_> had to bring in the bulldozers to clear rocks
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| 20:09 | <dtrask> aren'r there a lot of nude beaches nearby?
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| 20:09 | aren't
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| 20:09 | <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ldm-improvements in case anyone wants to subscribe ...
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| 20:10 | surely there are :)
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| 20:10 | <dtrask> hmmmmm.....
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| 20:10 | road trip!
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| 20:10 | <ogra> its the south of spain ... vacation area :)
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| 20:11 | * ogra discovered virtualbox today ... | |
| 20:11 | <ogra> an awesome thing ...
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| 20:11 | <dtrask> is it a vm thung?
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| 20:11 | thing
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| 20:11 | <ogra> can easily cope with vmware ... but 100% open source
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| 20:11 | <dtrask> easy to setnip?
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| 20:11 | setup
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| 20:12 | ?
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| 20:12 | <ogra> http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.3.8/
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| 20:12 | * dtrask is typing like cliebow | |
| 20:12 | <ogra> just doubleclick the one you need and let gdebi do the rest ;)
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| 20:12 | <dtrask> very cool
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| 20:12 | <cliebow_> i was just going to say..i'mdoing better than the rest of you
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| 20:12 | <ogra> (expand the termonal window in gdebi, its asking questions)
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| 20:13 | *terminal
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| 20:13 | <cliebow_> my bksp key on this ibook is missing so..correcting is a real pain
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| 20:14 | <dtrask> I have a cheap (free) laptop from a local university....Dell C610 with two batteries (got 8.5 hours yesterday)....virgin install of Edubuntu 7.04....and room to play :-)
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| 20:14 | * jammcq adds 'keyboard' to chucks christmas gift list | |
| 20:14 | <dtrask> bringing it to UES instead of my HP behemoth
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| 20:15 | <cliebow_> jammcq: it won't do any good...tome as i get to the d key my brain is doing trask
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| 20:15 | * jammcq can't imagine not having a real laptop when travelling | |
| 20:15 | <dtrask> chuck...is it old mlti one? I have one I can send you...I hoarded them
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| 20:15 | <cliebow_> i ti s a g4
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| 20:15 | that we leased
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| 20:16 | <dtrask> aw shucks
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| 20:16 | <cliebow_> which wont take an image
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| 20:17 | <cliebow_> dtrask..i have parts enough here to build a couple more
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| 20:17 | <dtrask> yeah....I lucked into this Dell....my tech was keeping an eye out...it's only a P3, but it flies...dunno why, but it's faster than my HP which is a P4 3ghz
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| 20:18 | <cliebow_> i keep one dell going at home all the time..for 128 meg ram it does ok
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| 20:18 | <dtrask> must be that awesome work everyone did with Feisty....or the generic kernel ;-)
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| 20:19 | <cliebow_> how much memory?
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| 20:19 | <dtrask> 512
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| 20:19 | <cliebow_> ahh..that does help
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| 20:19 | im fighting to get a 512 for my dansguardian..for like 2 months
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| 20:19 | <dtrask> took Matt's advice and started using the generic kernel....seems to make quite a difference
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| 20:20 | <cliebow_> generic is good
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| 20:21 | <dtrask> I have Ubuntu ultimate edition on my HP...that used genetic by default....and WOW!....what a performance increase
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| 20:21 | generic...not genetic ;-)
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| 20:21 | <cliebow_> what the hell is ultimate edition?
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| 20:22 | <ogra> cliebow_, in case someone asks in the future about x11vnc and ubuntu ltsp ... https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients ;)
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| 20:22 | <cliebow_> Cool..thank you.. ill bookmark that
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| 20:23 | <dtrask> it's a dvd install....loads everything you'd ever want and some you don't....loads all sorts of codecs...etc. And everything works in the end :-)
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| 20:23 | <ogra> it comes up to often ... so i thought i'd wiki it :)
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| 20:23 | <dtrask> good idea
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| 20:23 | <ogra> yeah, libgimmecodec is really cool
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| 20:24 | <cliebow_> thta is great..keep me from putting foot in mouth again
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| 20:24 | <ogra> it makes the codec stuff just work
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| 20:24 | restricted-manager is also very cool ...
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| 20:24 | <cliebow_> hahah..who thought of that one?
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| 20:24 | <ogra> the name i think seb128 :)
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| 20:25 | <cliebow_> i just cant keep up..and i monitor this All the time
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| 20:25 | <dtrask> I was pretty happy with it as I didn't have frig around after the install....I had everything and it all worked....even Skype
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| 20:25 | <ogra> yeah
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| 20:26 | i wonder if we should write an update-manager hook for ltsp chroots ...
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| 20:26 | <dtrask> anyone looked at Linux mint?.....an Ubuntu derivative....kinda' cool
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| 20:26 | <jammcq> you guys seen linuxmce ?
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| 20:26 | <dtrask> thats an interesting idea
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| 20:26 | <jammcq> http://www.linuxmce.com
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| 20:26 | * dtrask looks now | |
| 20:27 | <ogra> so security updates would get in automatically and upgrades between distros would happen automatically
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| 20:28 | * jammcq was very excited to hear about the new flavor of ubuntu with only completely free stuff in it | |
| 20:28 | * dtrask thanks jammcq for blowing his whole day tomrrow...has to try linuxmce ;-) | |
| 20:28 | <jammcq> :)
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| 20:28 | <dberkholz> i think the better idea about that website is the free tech support on skype
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| 20:28 | <ogra> jammcq, that existst since dapper
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| 20:28 | <dberkholz> jammcq: so was i
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| 20:28 | <jammcq> dtrask: my buddy John Terpstra pointed that out to me
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| 20:28 | <cliebow_> dtrask: i installed linuxmint and talked a bit with the devs
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| 20:29 | <ogra> jammcq, gutsy will just make it launchpad integrated :)
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| 20:29 | <dberkholz> now someone just has to talk ubuntu folks into making the all-free version the default
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| 20:29 | <dtrask> LOL
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| 20:29 | <dberkholz> and having a 'proprietary penguin' as the variant
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| 20:29 | <dtrask> oooh....can we name him Bill?
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| 20:30 | <jammcq> ogra: it sounded like this was something new
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| 20:30 | <ogra> dberkholz, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Diskless_X_terminal_with_read-only_root thats looks nearly like ltsp5 ... if you wrap it in plugins for ltsp-build-client it would be perfect ;)
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| 20:30 | <jammcq> something to do with gnusense
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| 20:31 | <dtrask> jammcq, I agree....I saw the announcement too
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| 20:31 | <dberkholz> ogra: yep, that's the goal. i already know how to do a manual setup..
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| 20:31 | manual setups aren't really interesting though, nor are unconfigurable, hardcoded, hard to change scripts
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| 20:31 | i need to find a week to set aside for this
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| 20:31 | <dberkholz> problem is, i haven't been at my desktop, and my ppc laptop can't run vmware for testing
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| 20:32 | <dtrask> really?
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| 20:32 | <jammcq> ogra: welcome back, we missed you
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| 20:32 | <dtrask> ogra=ogra
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| 20:32 | <ogra> heh
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| 20:32 | <dtrask> LOL
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| 20:32 | <ogra> daily reconnect ... yay
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| 20:33 | <dberkholz> ogra: did you get the stuff i said right before you dropped?
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| 20:33 | <ogra> anyway, 3:30AM ... time for bed i guess (GF is looking angry)
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| 20:33 | dberkholz, nope
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| 20:33 | <dberkholz> 01:30 < dberkholz> ogra: yep, that's the goal. i already know how to do a manual setup..
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| 20:33 | 01:30 < dberkholz> manual setups aren't really interesting though, nor are unconfigurable, hardcoded, hard to change scripts
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| 20:33 | 01:31 < dberkholz> i need to find a week to set aside for this
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| 20:33 | <dtrask> angry GF....not good
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| 20:33 | go to bed dude
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| 20:34 | <ogra> ah, ok, i just noticed some people showing up here that fllowed that howto
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| 20:34 | <dberkholz> i've been too busy with school and writing, and trying to keep gentoo from turning into a flaming ball of dung
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| 20:34 | <ogra> yeah, will do ...
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| 20:34 | night all :)
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| 20:34 | <dberkholz> night ogra
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| 20:35 | <dtrask> I gotta' take a shower....back in a while
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| 20:36 | <dberkholz> plus i keep thinking i can talk other people into doing work
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| 20:36 | but nobody ever does. guess i'm a bad role model
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| 21:49 | <vagrantc> cliebow: is there a wiki page for netbooting ppc ?
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| 21:50 | <tonyr> hello
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| 21:51 | I see some of my compatriots here...hey meho, stillflame...
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| 21:52 | meho: have you asked around here about powerpc netbooting yet?
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| 21:53 | <vagrantc> i just asked cliebow if there was a wiki page on it ...
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| 21:54 | <freemindx> night....
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| 22:00 | <sbalneav_> Evening all
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| 22:00 | <tonyr> vagrantc: I've surfed boocoo sites, and have a pretty good handle on ppc client booting...it's putting pxeboot and ppc OF enet boot that I'm thinking about
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| 22:00 | s/putting/putting together/
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| 22:00 | <vagrantc> tonyr: well, you use yaboot instead of pxe, as i understand it
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| 22:01 | or wait ... noo..
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| 22:01 | you use yaboot instead of pxelinux
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| 22:01 | i don't think ppc does pxe
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| 22:01 | <vagrantc> sbalneav__: there's a lot of you tonight
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| 22:01 | <tonyr> vagrantc: yup, pxe is intel platform specific as far as I can make out
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| 22:02 | <sbalneav> heh
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| 22:02 | left myself logged in at work.
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| 22:03 | Need to set myself up one o' them IRC proxys
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| 22:06 | <tonyr> there appears to be a ##pxe channel...haven't seen this ## prefix before...
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| 23:00 | <dberkholz> tonyr: people often put it on channels when they want to seem cool.
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| 23:01 | /query chanserv list ##*
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| 23:01 | to get a feel for the kind of ones that do it
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| 23:06 | <tonyr> dberkholz: thx, I tried that...##* showed up as a message from me in ChanServ, then gaim died...poof!...(ubuntu 7.04)
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| 23:07 | <dberkholz> nice.
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| 23:08 | tonyr: i guess your client's busted. try querying or msging chanserv, then giving it the list ##* command
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| 23:09 | <tonyr> dberkholz: I think there's a web page search portal, too
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| 23:15 | <tonyr> dberkholz: I tried "/help list"...it says something like "Warning: some servers may disconnect you upon doing this"...hmmmm
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| 23:16 | ...talk about "terminating with prejudice"...
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| 23:44 | <sol> hello
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