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00:21 | <agike> Which pkg's are required for LTSP - Debian Etch ?
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00:24 | Will ltsp-server & ltsp-client suffice ?
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00:24 | Err .. ltsp5
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00:28 | Hmm .. it seems to be ltsp-server .. or ltsp-server-standalone
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00:34 | I'll go with the latter. Cheers, and thanks for listening.
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05:31 | <_EXP> Hi all. I have a acer 4051 laptop as a thin client. I have managed to get the external display to work, but how I can change between displays Fn+F5 crashes the client
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05:36 | in lts.conf i have configured a custom xf86config, in that file i can change what display is visible, but i can´t clone them or change display "on the run"
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05:37 | any ideas?
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07:05 | <envite> Hello all from Spain!
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07:05 | ¡Hola a todos desde España!
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07:15 | <envite> hello cliebow
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07:16 | <cliebow> envite:!!!!!!!!
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07:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> buenos dias...
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07:41 | good morning
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07:41 | Gadi: r u there?
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07:46 | .
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07:58 | <envite> buenos días sh3mh4mf0r4sh
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07:59 | <EversonCaratti> hi!
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08:00 | as to cancel printer jobs in cups/ltsp ?
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08:00 | <envite> connect to http://printserver:631
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08:01 | <EversonCaratti> envite, I tried to delete in cups or killing the processes but no he stops to print.
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08:02 | envite, I tried in localhost:631 in server !
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08:02 | <envite> is the print connected to server?
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08:03 | s/print/printer
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08:03 | <EversonCaratti> envite, ltsp server and cups server into same machine !
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08:03 | <envite> i didn't ask for the print server but for the printer itself, physically
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08:15 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: send me alert when u stay in front a PC , need to talk to you
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08:23 | <EversonCaratti> envite, the trinter itself is in terminal !
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08:23 | <EversonCaratti> envite, ops, the printer...
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08:25 | <envite> ok
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08:25 | try to connect to cups of the terminal
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08:25 | terminal:631
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08:27 | <EversonCaratti> envite, ok, a moment please
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08:36 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> if i share /opt/ltsp-4.2 with /opt/ltsp/debian_etch_i386/ and change the dhcp root-path with new kernel generated with script of version 5 i can reboot the client and have ltsp-5 ??? untouching 4.2???
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08:36 | and not create again the clients... with they preferences again?
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08:46 | <EversonCaratti> envite, I tested for the terminal but he gave the same resulted of the server!
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08:47 | where they are the works in spool in ltsp?
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08:47 | works = printer jobs
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08:49 | <envite> the part of the job already sent to printer can not be cancelled
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08:49 | maybe that's the problem
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08:54 | <EversonCaratti> envite, no, this is canceled restarting printer ! but have many pages sended To printer
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08:54 | envite, the configuration in lts.conf uses socket://terminal:9100 to print, some times I tried to kill the process of socket but it reappears and continues printing!
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08:55 | <cliebow__> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, you can run six different versions..ppc i386 4.2 whatever..as ong as you provide the right kernel and root-path
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08:56 | <cliebow__> the fine points like localdevsa re another story
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08:58 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cliebow__: and i'm not create again the clients customs details whe client is logged?
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09:02 | <EversonCaratti> nobody has problems to cancel printer jobs of printers connects to the ltsp terminals using cups?
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09:14 | <prpplague> EversonCaratti: do you have the same problem if you print then cancel a job directly on the server?
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09:14 | <EversonCaratti> prpplague, no, in server is fine !
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09:19 | <cliebow__> any server details remain he same
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10:09 | <mrchicken> hello again
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10:10 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: saludos socio
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10:10 | <mrchicken> sh3mh4mf0r4sh... como vas>
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10:10 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ahi
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10:10 | aprendiendo cada dia mas que se menos :)
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10:11 | <mrchicken> hehehehehehehe, yo ya pase por esas y acepte mi condicion de redomado ignorante
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10:11 | I have a stupid issue now... whenever I type anything in my diskless client I get 10 letters
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10:11 | where can I specify the typematic rate?
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10:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: your 5 version run fine now?
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10:12 | <mrchicken> sh3mh4mf0r4sh ... I'm using 4.2 :P 5 never worked for me
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10:13 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: to me works fine.. just left me know if my medias storages work ok in the localdev
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10:13 | i try to upgrade the navigation room in the noon to test
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10:22 | <mrchicken> Sorry
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10:22 | my computer wants tod ie on me
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10:23 | :/(
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10:23 | anyway...
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10:23 | I was crying for somebody to help me out with the keyboard issue
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10:24 | every letter I type gets written like 10 times
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10:27 | <mrchicken> damned thing
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10:30 | <mrchicken> ok so can anybody give me a hand with my problem?
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10:30 | please?
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11:10 | <mrchicken> how can I control the kb rate of repeat rate
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11:38 | <mrchicken> hello??
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11:50 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> jammcq: hey
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11:53 | <mrchicken> I'm trying to login via my workstation (with an AT keyboard) however every letter I type gets repeated like 1000000 times
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11:54 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: is the mb old?
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11:54 | <mrchicken> yes
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11:54 | its a SIS530 mb
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11:54 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> so I know whats happening
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11:55 | add the lines to the dhcp
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11:55 | option option-128 e4:45:74:68:00:00; and option option-129 "acpi=off";
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11:55 | <mrchicken> umm I'm using pxelinux
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11:55 | su I suppose I should write that in pxe.conf
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11:56 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> do u know the model of the mb?
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11:57 | it's to put on dhcp server
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11:58 | <mrchicken> ummm I do I believe its an LMRT 555 or something
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11:58 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> right... the same problem in another place of the world
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11:58 | lo
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11:58 | l
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11:59 | <mrchicken> brb lemme test
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12:04 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: so..
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12:10 | <envite> Hey guys
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12:10 | can somebody help me with my tftp?
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12:11 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> what's up
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12:11 | not work
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12:11 | <envite> works
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12:11 | but does not serve the file
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12:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> did u check filename in the dhcpd.conf?
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12:12 | <envite> that's ok
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12:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i have this -> filename "/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz-2.6.18-4-486";
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12:13 | <envite> I'm actually trying with a tftp client in another PC
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12:13 | and all that I get is Transfer timed out
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12:13 | tftp> get /lts/2.6.9-ltsp-3/pxelinux.0
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12:13 | Transfer timed out.
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12:14 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> have this in inet.conf?
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12:14 | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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12:15 | <envite> actually
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12:15 | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd in.tftpd -v -v -v -u root -s /tftpboot
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12:16 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> is tftpd ?
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12:16 | <envite> hpa
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12:16 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> uhm
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12:16 | same here tftpd-hpa
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12:16 | netstat -ap | grep tftp?
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12:17 | <envite> # netstat -ap|grep tftp
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12:17 | warning, got bogus unix line.
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12:17 | udp 0 0 *:tftp *:* 10943/inetd
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12:18 | switched to: tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -r blksize -s /tftpboot
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12:18 | and the same
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12:19 | <Gadi> could be your switch - try with a crossover cable
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12:19 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> and without -r blksize?
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12:19 | <Gadi> indeed
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12:19 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes. try with gadi said
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12:20 | <Gadi> and what sh3mh4mf0r4sh said ;)
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12:20 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hehehe
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12:20 | <envite> Gadi: I have no problems between these two PC
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12:21 | <Gadi> your switch may be blocking the udp packets
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12:21 | some switches have quirky things
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12:21 | where they will block some types of packets
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12:22 | <envite> I think that is not the case, because when I request a nonexistent file, I receive the adequate answer
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12:22 | but I will try to know with tcpdump
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12:22 | just to be surer
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12:22 | <Gadi> hmm... then, it could indeed be timeout issues
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12:22 | which may also be switch related
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12:23 | is it a crappy switch?
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12:23 | <envite> I do not know which switch it is, I'm remotely connected to the two PC
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12:23 | but I can ssh without problems from one PC to the other
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12:24 | <mrchicken> kaminski-ltsp-br THANKS!!!
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12:24 | it worked!11
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12:24 | How did you come across that??
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12:25 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: felicidades chama
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12:27 | <Gadi> envite: ssh is over tcp, not udp
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12:28 | <envite> I know
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12:28 | <Gadi> have you ever had issues with this switch and ltsp?
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12:28 | <envite> don't know, it's first time
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12:28 | <Gadi> ah, ok
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12:29 | are you using the tftp-hpa client?
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12:29 | as well as server?
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12:29 | <envite> yes
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12:30 | <envite> I see the RRQ udp packet in both tcpdumps
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12:31 | <Gadi> try placing a smaller dummy file in the tftproot dir and getting it
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12:31 | <envite> ok
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12:32 | it worked
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12:32 | <Gadi> hmm...
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12:33 | one kind of network cards are they?
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12:33 | 10/100?
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12:33 | <envite> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
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12:34 | <Gadi> both the same?
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12:35 | <envite> they're twins
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12:35 | <Gadi> lol
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12:35 | can you run: mii-tool eth0
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12:35 | <envite> I'm using one twin as client to check the tftp server in the other
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12:35 | eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
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12:36 | <mrchicken> sh3mh4mf0r4sh... soy hombre
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12:36 | <loca|host> hello all
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12:37 | <envite> hello loca|host
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12:37 | <loca|host> am running ltsp4.2 debian
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12:38 | my thin client can't access his floppy driver, cdrom, and pluggable usb sticks, i put in my lts.conf : HOTPLUG = Y LOCAL_DEVICE_02 = /dev/fd0:floppy LOCAL_DEVICE_01 = /dev/hdd:cdrom
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12:38 | <envite> Gadi, sh3mh4mf0r4sh: It seems that I receive 508 bytes of the pxelinux.0 file
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12:38 | <loca|host> like the docs said
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12:38 | <envite> it is a 11826 bytes file
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12:38 | <Gadi> envite: sounds like either the network driver is dying or the switch
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12:39 | perhaps changing the blksize would help?
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12:39 | not sure
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12:39 | <envite> how can I do that?
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12:39 | <Gadi> 1 sec
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12:40 | <bricode> Gadi: You ever wrap up that kiosk lstp plugin script?
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12:41 | <loca|host> anyone ?
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12:42 | <Gadi> envite: http://docs.hp.com/en/B3921-90010/tftpd.1M.html
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12:42 | play with values in that -r flag
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12:42 | maybe that'll help it
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12:43 | loca|host: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev
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12:43 | make sure you follow the one for 4.2
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12:44 | bricode: which one was that?
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12:44 | <bricode> Gadi: Dunno, but I've been tasked to do an LTSP e-mail garden with some other funk. Just wondered what resources were available to me.
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12:45 | <Gadi> heh, well, there are a plethora of LTSP's to choose from these days :)
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12:45 | will mostly depend on the funk
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12:46 | <kaminski-ltsp-br> mrchicken: hey
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12:46 | mrchicken: about the sis 530 ... we tried a lot of things... lol...
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12:46 | * bricode sings "Who's got the funk". | |
12:50 | <envite> Gadi: no way
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12:51 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> mrchicken: yo =
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12:51 | <bricode> Gadi: Well, the other funk involves stuff I've talked about previously. Mostly multi-media type stuff.
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12:53 | <Gadi> bricode: why not just use LTSP5 and run ur lil OS in the chroot?
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12:53 | that way u can market the desktop u put together
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12:56 | <envite> Gaid: I'v found one new error msg
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12:56 | <mrchicken> kaminski-ltsp-br ... have you been able to make the soundcard work?
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12:56 | <loca|host> Gadi, i've read that LocalDev wiki topic, i dont understand how to "Enable localdev on the Client"
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12:59 | <Gadi> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Enabling_localdevice_on_the_clie
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12:59 | er, click on enabling local device on the client
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12:59 | <bricode> Gadi: That's kinda what I'm thinking.
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12:59 | <Gadi> In your lts.conf file, either in the [Defaults] section, or on a per-workstation basis, adding the line: LOCAL_STORAGE = Y
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13:26 | <cliebow__> Gadi:is the "generic kernel" a 36 or 686 kernel
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13:27 | <Gadi> 686
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13:28 | <cliebow__> cool..testing out linuxmint..seems kind of pokey for 256 meg ram
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13:41 | <envite> gadi: every thig I try, it is the same: I receive only the first 508 bytes of the asked-for file
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13:47 | <AMSmith42> !ubunutquick
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13:47 | <ltspbot> AMSmith42: Error: "ubunutquick" is not a valid command.
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13:48 | <AMSmith42> !ubuntuquickstart
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13:48 | <ltspbot> AMSmith42: Error: "ubuntuquickstart" is not a valid command.
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13:48 | <AMSmith42> !ubuntuquick
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13:48 | <ltspbot> AMSmith42: "ubuntuquick" is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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13:59 | <AMSmith42> If I set up my LTS to rdesktop to a Windows TS, would I need to have them both set up for DHCP and have different IP ranges that each server has control over to guarantee no conflicts?
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14:02 | <AMSmith42> That is, if I boot my thin client from a Linux TS, the Linux server will give it an IP address. Then if I rdesktop from the Linux thin client to the Windows TS, won't the Windows server want to give the thin client an IP address as well?
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14:05 | <Gadi> AMSmith42: do you plan to rdesktop from the Linux desktop on the server or to setup a SCREEN_XX in lts.conf?
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14:09 | <AMSmith42> I was planning to rdesktop from the Linux desktop to the windows ts desktop.
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14:10 | What is a screen_xx?
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14:22 | I'm looking at dhcpd.conf. What is a broadcast address?
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14:23 | <Gadi> sorry - ph call
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14:23 | when you rdesktop from ur linux desktop, you are going server to server
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14:24 | if you connect as a screen script in lts.conf, you are going client to server
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14:24 | so, connections from server to server will look to WTS as if they are all originating from the server IP
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14:24 | connections from client to server will look like they are coming from individual client IPs
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14:25 | <AMSmith42> Wild. So I can basically trick Windows into thinking there is only one connection?
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14:25 | <Gadi> no
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14:25 | it still has separate sessions
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14:25 | just all originating from same client
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14:25 | its as if you opened rdesktop several times from 1 PC
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14:25 | <AMSmith42> But it doesn't hand out an IP address for each of those...
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14:25 | <Gadi> WTS does not hand out IPs
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14:25 | <AMSmith42> OK
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14:26 | Not even to clients?
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14:26 | <Gadi> nope
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14:26 | <AMSmith42> ...
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14:26 | So...much...to...learn
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14:27 | How does it keep track of client connections? MAC?
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14:28 | <Gadi> hostname usually
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14:28 | well, superficially hostname
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14:28 | <AMSmith42> OK
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14:28 | <Gadi> (like in the case of the interface)
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14:29 | under the hood, it will assign a unique ID to each connections
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14:29 | er, connection
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14:29 | <AMSmith42> I see. That makes sense.
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14:30 | What is broadcast-address?
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14:31 | <Gadi> its the subnet's broadcast address (the IP address that corresponds to a broadcast on the subnet)
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14:33 | <AMSmith42> I guess I've never had to fiddle with that. Is there a nominal setting for it on 198.168.0.x 255.255.255.0?
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14:33 | I don't understand what broadcast does.
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14:33 | <Gadi> there is a mandatory setting
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14:33 | 192.168.0.255
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14:34 | <AMSmith42> Thank you.
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14:34 | <Gadi> I know Google keeps hiding the TCP/IP manual somewhere ... I'll check under the couch ;)
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14:36 | <AMSmith42> lol
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14:50 | <doederlie> is there a way to say a client to mount another partition on an usb stick than the first one? (local dev with ltsp4.2)
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14:52 | <Gadi> doederlie: it would be in the udev rules on the client: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/udev/rules.d/
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14:56 | <doederlie> ah okay, i see, there is a 10-ltsp-usb.rules, i have no clue so i will go and read some udev doc. Thanks!
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14:58 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> brb
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15:06 | <mrchicken> Hello
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15:07 | one last silly question
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15:07 | actually two :)
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15:07 | <mrchicken> which sound server would you recommend for old AC'97 soundcards?
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15:08 | and ... if I have a USB printer how do I set it up?
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15:08 | /dev/usb?
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15:38 | <mrchicken> Hello?
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15:38 | Anybody?
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15:39 | I know you;re hiding here...
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15:40 | <mrchicken> Can anybody help me set up a USB printer?
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15:40 | connected to a client?
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15:40 | <jammcq> mrchicken: you need to spend more time searching the wiki
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15:40 | it's all there
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15:42 | <Andy_CARP> hi all, a conceptual issue: I've worked with LTSP doing dumb terminals that logged on linux server using telnet. Now if instead of boot a text worksation I boot an X workstation the processes I'll run, like RDP client for example, will run on the workstation hardware or hat only shows the screens generated by the application running at LTSP server?
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15:44 | *hat=that workstations
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15:46 | * efra_away is away: I'm out to lunch | Sali a comer | |
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15:47 | <mrchicken> it is? I just read an article on howto install a LPT printer
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15:49 | just saw it
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15:53 | <pacho> I have ltsp 4.2 on Slackware 11.0 ... I need to use local devices (USB stick) but I can't install 2.6.x kernel now ... what can I do ???
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15:54 | <Andy_CARP> please, give me a rope... where can I read about of LTSP operation theory, way it work, etc...?
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16:34 | <zald> www.ltsp.org
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16:35 | mrchicken, http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Printers
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16:54 | <Burgwork> hmm
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16:54 | no jim
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19:02 | <mistik1> Gadi: ping
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19:48 | <J45p3r> cliebow: ping
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20:20 | <cliebow_> J45p3r:pong
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20:22 | J45p3r, how about i bring the server up then take the old one back
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20:23 | lamoine monday the 19th 2:30..from val
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20:24 | airport upgrade
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20:25 | look for you in the A.m then
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20:26 | <J45p3r> you got my email then?
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20:26 | <cliebow_> just now..
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20:27 | gotta get it done..they ariflighted my bro to Boston..
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20:27 | packing it in..beat..
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20:28 | <J45p3r> hope everything is ok, I'll see you in the am
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21:45 | <Plouj> where's the ltsp repository? http://www.ltsp.org/ltsp-4.1 is 404
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22:14 | <vagrantc> !download
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22:14 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: Error: "download" is not a valid command.
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22:14 | <vagrantc> hmmm...
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22:14 | <jammcq> heh
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22:16 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: learn download as http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/DownLoads
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22:16 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: The operation succeeded.
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22:16 | <vagrantc> Plouj: try that
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22:16 | <Plouj> k
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22:19 | I'm not sure what I'm looking for
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22:23 | <vagrantc> Plouj: what do you want to accomplish?
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22:24 | <Plouj> run ltspadmin according to http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-en.html#AEN53
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22:24 | section 2.2
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22:24 | <vagrantc> 4.1 is obsoleted by 4.2
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22:24 | but somewhat similar
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22:24 | <Plouj> what do you mean?
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22:25 | <vagrantc> 4.2 is released.
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22:25 | <Plouj> yeah, and?
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22:25 | oh, the documentation is for 4.1?
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22:25 | <vagrantc> most people capable of supporting 4.1 would rather spend time fiing problems with 4.2
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22:25 | and then, of course, there's ltsp5 :)
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22:25 | <Plouj> well, I don't see any documentation for 4.2
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22:26 | wait a second
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22:26 | I went here: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation then clicked on the English LTSP-4.1/4.2 HTML document
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22:26 | what are you telling me?
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22:27 | <vagrantc> 4.2 is probably similar enough to 4.1 that the documentation probably still should work.
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22:27 | but i'm an ltsp5 developer, so i should probably stop commenting on ltsp 4.x
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22:27 | <Plouj> ok, now that we figured that out
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22:27 | I really don't care about what version of ltsp I use
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22:28 | as long as it's easy to install and it's documented
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22:28 | I'm just trying to learn how to setup my own network booted system
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22:28 | <vagrantc> ltspbot: factoids search --values
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22:28 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: 'ltsp', 'ubuntu', 'sbalneav', 'icewm', 'frappr', 'wiki', 'debian', 'edubuntu', 'dhcpd', 'greyscreen', 'grayscreen', 'ltsp42', 'localdev', 'checklist', 'muekow', 'bestltspdistro', 'serversize', 'serversizing', 'wireless', 'sound', 'topics', 'ubuntuquick', 'integration', 'lts.conf', 'pastebot', 'bootfloppy', 'ltsp5', 'tarball', and 'download'
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22:28 | <vagrantc> !ltsp42
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22:28 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ltsp42" is The latest version of LTSP is version 4.2. You can find out all information about it on http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42
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22:29 | <vagrantc> Plouj: what linux distro are you using?
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22:30 | <Plouj> I've just installed debian 3.1 r8 I think
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22:30 | <vagrantc> jammcq: we should maybe mention the tarballs on http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5Status
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22:31 | Plouj: would you be willing to upgrade to debian 4.0 pre-release?
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22:31 | Plouj: as i've worked on integrated LTSP into debian
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22:31 | <Plouj> is pre-release = testing or = unstable?
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22:31 | <vagrantc> testing
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22:31 | <Plouj> sure
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22:31 | <vagrantc> currently frozen ... hopefully released sometime in the next couple months
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22:32 | !debian
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22:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "debian" is is a GNU/Linux based operating system that makes an excellent LTSP server. You can find it at http://www.debian.org. for information about LTSP on debian see http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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22:38 | <Plouj> ok, so I'm updating debian etch
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22:39 | <vagrantc> nice :)
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22:58 | * vagrantc needs to prepare for an LTSP talk .... tomorrow! :) | |
23:01 | <vagrantc> looks like my LTSP talk was approved for debconf7 ... hope i can make it :)
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23:08 | <jammcq> dude, that means flying on a plane again
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23:08 | <vagrantc> most likely.
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23:09 | though i might try hitchhiking
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