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sbalneav: rough around the edges, but bzr pull http://cascadia.debian.net/~vagrant/ltsp-pam-examples
sbalneav: we've got sshfs homedirs, and localapps support mostly working.
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what's news at bts? ltsp 6 going fat-client by default yet?
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Hey fellas, hows BTS
If its not too much to ask could someone bring me down some lobster since i didn't get to come
all i got last year was crabs :(
Well i'll hopefully have my fedora-19 release out by the end of this weekend
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I'm not having much luck getting ltsp working. I'm using ubuntu 13 with the repo version of ltsp. I've tried following different pages advice with not much luck
I can get into the gui finally but I can't get firefox working
Its giving me a error about unable to find a profile
Can you open a gnome-terminal inside the thin client session?
(or an xterm...)
yes but I cannot access the home directory. and I believe thats why firefox cannot access the profiles
Is that a server-side user, or a user that you created in the chroot?
It needs to be in the server only
Not in both
well I created a root user inside chroot and created a different user through the server
Log in with the server-side user to the thin client
Open an xterm, run ps aux and mount, and pastebin the results
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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is this the right place to ask for support with ltsp-live?
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
so, I'm having issues with ltsp-live on Edubuntu 13.10
it just takes very long and actually never finished configuring
I tried it out on two different machines (one fast laptop and one cutting-edge desktop)
This is Edubuntu live CD?
And you're installing it, or actually booting into live OS from the CD/DVD?
live OS from DVD or USB
the wizard searches for network interfaces then finds and shows eth0 on both the computers onto which I tested the live OS
I have actually never tried that.
Not entirely sure how it works, so I can't help you much I'm afraid. I can try a little.
At what point does it get stuck?
prompts that the interface is already used and asks for confirmation as for continuing the configuration, which I confirm
after a while it starts configuring, after installing and unpacking
that's when it always gets stuck
the application doesn't freeze or whatever it just seems to take forever as though it was in a loop
if you could try it out it would be extremely helpful
My advice, just actually install the OS instead of doing it live.
You should have some spare harddisk somewhere which you can use
I have to tell a school if they can use Edubuntu on their old IT laboratory machines but LTSP would be necessary because of some computers lacking DVD trays
I would do that, but that's a school with a windows setup they wouldn't erase
so it must be a live OS :S
You don't have to erase client computers.
Clients just have to network boot.
Only the server yeah, but that's already a Windows server
You only install software on the server, that's the beauty of LTSP.
You can configure the Windows server to provide netboot details, and just point it to your Linux server (any server, can even be your laptop if you want)
But they payed for software like Epoptes for Windows and had their network going for years, so either they find a new server computer (but they run on very low budget) or they partition and install double booting
Otherwise, wait for someone with experience with LTSP live media.
your help was good, I just have some very strict requirements for this project :\
So unstrict them.
How many clients are you talking about?
it should be 7 late 90s / early 00s desktops
+ 1 server
btw I'm new to network booting as well but I can learn
So you're planning to run these as fat clients or thin clients?
I don't know actually, I thought one dvd on the server and all the others lan-booting or dvd-booting in case they had a DVD tray
but they quite certainly don't
You know the difference between thin and fat clients?
256 + (192 * 7 users) MB = 1600 MB of RAM :O
Both thin and fat clients netboot.
thin = no device needed apart from MB, graphics and Ram
But fat clients get an entire operating system delivered via network and run all their software on the local hardware.
Thin clients only get a minimal OS that can log in to the server and then the entire desktop session and all programs are executed on the server.
the more fat clients the less efforts for the server I suppose
So if you have older PC's, which cannot run modern operating systems (which I'm assuming is the case here), you would want want thin clients.
But if your clients can handle it and you don't have budget for a powerful server with enough ram, you would want fat.
can fat and thing clients be present in the same network?
both fat and thin*
it might be on or two computers have got a DVD reader installed, might..
Yes. This is actually easier with ltsp-pnp, that detects automatically if clients have enough ram for local OS. If they do they're fat, otherwise they're thin.
sd34, why are you obsessed with dvd readers?
because I have very little knowledge about these technologies and believe that if a computer has a DVD reader I can burn an Edubuntu DVD for that computer
ltsp-pnp is a completely different software?
No, ltsp-pnp is a fork (or extension) of regular LTSP software.
and possibly of LTSP-live too :)
Do you know what network booting is? PXE?
I'm afraid all I know is that I can choose to boot from Lan at PC's boot time
and I haven't been able to try it out because of this problem I'm discussing
(configuration never ending)
Let's make deal
Read some more about the concepts of LTSP, about how it should work... read about PXE booting, thin vs fat clients.... http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Concepts
Understand first how it -should- work, before you pop in some live DVD
Tomorrow we can talk some more... or you could look for alkisg, he's the LTSP oracle - knows everything.
But he's on European time too (Greece), so sleeping now.
I'm on European time so it would be perfect
I was looking for some good guide to study
I haven't found much that was easy to understand though, let's see yours
but still, I may lack some knowledge and that's for sure although the ltsp-live wizard is quite straightforward and didn't it get stuck I would be able to get some hands-on understanding first
that is what I need prior to studying theory :\
In fact I'm downloading the most stable Edubuntu iso now and will se if that gets stuck too
I guess grasping the hands-on basis is necessary... sometimes a youtube video is enough but everything I watched didn't come up with my strange issue
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by the way, do you think once it works I can teach a teacher of the school to boot up and start a ltsp network ? Is that something userfriendly with the newest LTSP releases?
in Italy schools have no money at all and they need to do all on a budget (very thin one) and on their own because they can't afford technicians help
You should definitely talk to alkisg.
if they liked Edubuntu and decided to use that for their classes on a regular basis it would be necessary that they can run it on their own
He's got literally hundreds of schools in Greece running LTSP, he's actually made it so teachers can maintain the installations themselves.
thanks, I will
I will connect tomorrow again
Get an IRC client and just hang out in here...
Just keep in mind most people here are often very busy
if that school manages to run Edubuntu.. well it will make a nice success story :)
oh sure, I have no idea if this is a free chan or a place for developers, I just found it on LTPS.org
I will keep this window open, I don't mind
It's basically anything LTSP related... developer or otherwise. But channel doesn't get that much traffic either way.
I'll do my best to explain in English
and hopefully we'll work this out and help that school
they just couldn't believe all that great software came for free :D
I won't let them down, I won't
thanks for your help
good night Hyperbyte, my time zone got me beat ;)