IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 18 January 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 05:22 | <zirconiumks> can i know where to change the BOOT variable from NBD to NFS? which file & its location
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| 09:09 | <alkisg> Has anyone used the kubuntu alternate cd to install an ltsp server? In the boot screen, there *isn't* an F4 option to install an ltsp server, but it's there in the debian-installer steps...???!!!
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| 14:45 | <vlt> Hello. After changing the server IP: Is `ltsp-update-sshkeys` sufficient or do I have to `ltsp-update-image`, too?
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| 14:47 | <alkisg> You also need ltsp-update-image
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| 14:48 | <vlt> alkisg: Thank you.
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| 14:48 | <alkisg> np
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| 14:49 | <Eghie> hello
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| 14:50 | to make USB disk mounting work in LTSP (with Ubuntu intrepid) you need FUSE rights
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| 14:50 | but it is really some work to add every user to the FUSE group
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| 14:50 | because we use LDAP as user database
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| 14:50 | and the system groups are in /etc/group
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| 14:50 | now I did chmod a+rw /dev/fuse
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| 14:51 | and that works
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| 14:51 | but is that the correct way?
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| 14:51 | and will it survive a reboot?
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| 14:56 | <Egyptian[Home]> Eghie: i suspect ...not sure .. but you may have to play with udev rules to make it stick ..
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| 14:57 | of course try a reboot first to check
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| 14:57 | <Eghie> yeah, but they are using it now
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| 14:58 | and the testing server I have not at hand now
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| 15:01 | ah man, NSCD sucks
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| 15:01 | it crashes when run as daemon, mostly in a couple of minutes
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| 15:02 | now I run it in a screen terminal in debugging mode and now it is behaving itself :S
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| 15:07 | <Egyptian[Home]> Eghie: nscd? what distro are you using?
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| 15:07 | * Egyptian[Home] prays it isnt suse | |
| 15:09 | <Eghie> your prayers have been answered
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| 15:09 | it is Ubuntu Intrepid
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| 15:14 | I guess I should try UNSCD (from busybox): http://busybox.net/~vda/unscd/
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| 15:18 | do LTSP and SUSE have problems with each other?
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| 15:23 | <Egyptian[Home]> no
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| 15:23 | i just haste suse
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| 15:23 | i prefer fedora /rhel
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| 15:24 | <Eghie> lol
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> OpenSuSE has implemented things very differently from other distros with kiwi-ltsp ...
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| 15:34 | <Eghie> why?
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| 15:35 | I guess they do have a reason for that
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| 15:35 | if they are good reasons, that's another matter though
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| 15:43 | <vagrantc> some of them are good reasons, some of them don't seem to be so
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| 19:21 | <Ryan52> wow, stgraber is fast.
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| 19:22 | * Ryan52 wonders why stgraber subscribed him.. | |
| 19:24 | <stgraber> ldm gtk thingy, thought you might know
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| 19:24 | and some people tend to redirect indirect subscription to bugmail to /dev/null
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| 19:25 | <Ryan52> heh. ok.
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| 19:53 | <Gadi> stgraber: ping
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| 20:12 | <stgraber> Gadi: pong
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| 20:17 | <Gadi> stgraber: have you been using your localapps menu stuff in a test environment?
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| 20:18 | <stgraber> production actually :)
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| 20:18 | <Gadi> :)
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| 20:18 | would you like to test my ltsp-genmenu?
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| 20:18 | :D
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| 20:18 | <stgraber> sure, where is it and what did you change ?
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| 20:19 | <Gadi> I'll pastebot it - it replaces menu items from the main menu rather than having a local app submenu
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| 20:19 | (hopefully)
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| 20:19 | :)
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| 20:19 | <stgraber> good, I was planning to do that :)
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| 20:19 | it's one of the things we discussed with ogra at UDS
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| 20:19 | <Gadi> also, I add LOCAL_APPS_MENU_ITEMS lts.conf var
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| 20:19 | which allows the admin to specify only certain apps to be overridden
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| 20:20 | <stgraber> I was planning that too :) with ltsp-cluster we have hardware groups so we can use that lts.conf parameter to filter local applications depending on the hardware
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| 20:20 | <ltsppbot> "Gadi" pasted "ltsp-genmenu" (88 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/177
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| 20:21 | <Gadi> it basically works off of .desktop files in /usr/share/applications
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| 20:21 | so, if you have other apps that you want to add, put a .desktop file there
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| 20:23 | <stgraber> any reason not to use ltsp-localapps ?
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| 20:23 | <Gadi> for what?
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| 20:23 | <stgraber> TryExec=
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| 20:24 | <Gadi> oh, this way no need for server side executable
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| 20:24 | (other than xprop)
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| 20:24 | so, you can terminal into a random server and still get localapps working
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| 20:24 | without installing a localapps package on that app server
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| 20:24 | <stgraber> hmm, ok, makes sense. (I plan to ship ltsp-localapps with ldminfod so it'll be there in most setup but not all)
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| 20:25 | <Gadi> right - this goes back to our conversation of having an "app server" package
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| 20:25 | :)
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| 20:25 | <stgraber> yeah
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| 20:25 | about the icons, shouldn't we handle them like the .desktop and do a backup if they already existt ?
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| 20:25 | <Gadi> but, the fewer server-side packages *required* the better
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| 20:26 | hmm
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| 20:26 | I guess
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| 22:00 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i really liked "Call ltspfs_entry remove if we fail to mount the device, so we don't end up with an ltspfsmount to tmpfs."
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| 22:02 | <vagrantc> Gadi: although, now that i think of it, removing the device if it fails to mount will break floppies ...
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| 22:04 | guess we could special-case floppies...
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| 22:05 | <Gadi> hmm
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| 22:05 | does it break cdroms, too?
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| 22:06 | <vagrantc> shouldn't, as cdpinger is run on insertion/removal
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| 22:07 | <vagrantc> would it make sense to have a floppy pinger?
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| 22:07 | no... no...
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| 22:07 | then you'd have the floppy drives spinning up periodically just to check if a floppy was there...
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| 22:08 | * vagrantc can't wait till floppy disks are totally and utterly obsolete | |
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| 22:28 | <Gadi> ok, vagrantc
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| 22:28 | hopefully that fixes it for floppies
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| 23:23 | <warren> * vagrantc can't wait till floppy disks are totally and utterly obsolete
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| 23:23 | doh, he left
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| 23:23 | I would have said, "Welcome to 1999!"
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