IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 22 August 2017 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:21 | <fuzzmew> sorry I'm back now. I'm getting some WeIrD errors. ---- update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-92-generic
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| 06:21 | Errors were encountered while processing:
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| 06:21 | mint-artwork-common
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| 06:21 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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| 06:21 | error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
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| 06:21 | I am running Linux mint 18.2
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| 06:22 | my server is AMD 8 core 4Ghz with 32 Gb ram
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| 06:32 | <bennabiy[m]> fuzzmew: I will look into that. I wonder if my package was not uploaded to the mint server
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| 06:34 | <fuzzmew> I dont know where the mint guide is I tried the one on the ltsp site, no joy, tried several pages and the wiki and no joy, I just don't know what I'm doing wrong unless it is that I am not using the mint guide, where ever that is
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| 06:36 | and many thankx for looking into it
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| 06:36 | <bennabiy[m]> fuzzmew: I used to run mint, and might go back to it, but I have not updated the scripts for the latest mint, which means that something might have changed. Granted, it shouldn't have, but it might have. I can fire up a VM tomorrow possibly and see if I can get it to work fine
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| 06:38 | <fuzzmew> Many thanks for doing it, I will ask tomorrow then.
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| 06:41 | <bennabiy[m]> later in the day, if you could, as I will not be getting an early start (this is a late night for me)
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| 11:53 | <professor_> Como adicionar os computadores ligados a central?
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| 12:38 | <paipy> hello
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| 12:38 | * vagrantc waves | |
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| 13:41 | * alkisg waves | |
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> !nbd-client
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| 13:52 | <ltsp> nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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| 13:52 | * vagrantc wonders where the bot lives, and how we could back up it's factoids | |
| 13:53 | <alkisg> It's in ltsp.org, and I've done a backup 2 months ago...
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| 13:53 | I asked jammcq to host the server myself, he'll talk to Ron about the name first and he'll tell us later...
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| 13:54 | <vagrantc> additionally, could we just dump the factoids to a webpage periodically?
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| 13:54 | could generate a FAQ from that
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| 13:58 | <alkisg> I would prefer reading the factoids from a web page, if someone will invest the time to code that part... :)
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| 13:58 | A nice wiki with FAQ etc
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| 13:58 | Now the factoids are chaotic, e.g.
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| 13:58 | !v
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| 13:58 | <ltsp> v: vagrantc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> it's nice to be able to reference the factoids directly in irc when someone asks, but they're hidden if you don't know what to look for
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| 14:01 | <alkisg> I think supybot supports !find or !list or some other commands to list all of the factoids
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| 14:04 | <vagrantc> it usually only gives a partial list
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| 14:04 | !halp
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| 14:04 | <ltsp> Error: "halp" is not a valid command.
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> !list
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| 14:05 | <ltsp> Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Factoids, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, RSS, Seen, Status, Time, User, and Utilities
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> !factoids list
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| 14:05 | <ltsp> Error: The "Factoids" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "list" in it. Try "list Factoids" to see the commands in the "Factoids" plugin.
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> !list factoids
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| 14:05 | <ltsp> alias, change, forget, info, learn, lock, random, rank, search, unlock, and whatis
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| 14:05 | <vagrantc> anyways...
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| 14:05 | passing thoughts for implementation *someday* :)
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| 14:27 | <alkisg> Hrm. nbd-client shows a lot of errors while mounting the image in recent versions... I wonder if that affects everyone, or just me...
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| 14:28 | Buffer I/O error on dev nbd0, attempted send on invalid socket etc etc
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| 14:28 | And yet after the 15 initial errors, everything works fine
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| 14:31 | <alkisg> nbd-server now supports "allowlist" to list the exports, nice!
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| 14:31 | We don't enable it by default though...
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| 14:31 | vagrantc: one of the problems I was having with ltsp-manager is, how to provide different defaults that the stock ltsp-config
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| 14:32 | E.g. ltsp-config creates a dnsmasq with port=0, i.e. disable DNS
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| 14:32 | While since we're already using dnsmasq, why not have it cache the requests, serve dns in the internal nic, etc etc, i.e. have #port=0 commented out
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| 14:33 | I tried using sed to comment it out, in `initial-setup.sh`, but in the next ltsp-config dnsmasq --overwrite, that was lost again
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| 14:34 | Would you like to default to enabling dns too in ltsp dnsmasq example, or should I search for some other way to override it specifically for people using ltsp manager?
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| 14:35 | <vagrantc> i have no problem with enabling dnsmasq's DNS support ... i thought you had originally disabled it due to conflicts with ubuntu?
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| 14:37 | <alkisg> vagrantc: no, I think originally you didn't like enabling dns by default...
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| 14:37 | The ubuntu bits, about "bind-interfaces" etc, are commented out in the example,
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| 14:37 | because even if those are used, ubuntu is still borked :D
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| 14:38 | Fortunately systemd-networkd and debian introduced a lot of changes and they got bored of maintaining the dnsmasq local resolver hack, and they will drop it (or they already dropped it in 17.10, I don't monitor non-lts versions)
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| 14:38 | ltsp-manager's initial-setup.sh undoes the ubuntu dnsmasq local resolver hack, so no problem there
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| 14:41 | Cool, I'll upload a new example dnsmasq.conf
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| 14:41 | bbiab
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| 14:41 | <vagrantc> only risk is if someone else already had it configured in some other way...
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| 14:42 | could also have a second dnsmasq.d fragment to enable and/or disable it
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| 14:42 | <engelbert> hello everybody
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| 14:44 | is here someone who has experiance with hardware for LTSP Server?
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| 14:46 | <vagrantc> !ask | echo engelbert
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| 14:46 | <ltsp> engelbert ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
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| 14:46 | <vagrantc> you've asked a question, but maybe be more specific
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| 14:46 | :)
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| 15:56 | <alkisg> vagrantc: many thing in ltsp depend on the arch, just because we decided to name the tftp subdirs etc based on the arch
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| 15:56 | That's a good thing for people using several chroots etc, but not for people using only one chroot or ltsp-pnp
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| 15:57 | How about making the default e.g. /opt/ltsp/default or /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/default, even if it's a symlink?
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| 15:57 | That way, dhcpd, dnsmasq, etc etc, everything could just point to the default by default, so that we don't have to sed or use examples.in files that substitute $ARCH depending on the build arch...
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| 15:57 | ltsp-update-image or ltsp-update-kernels can take care of generating the default symlink if it doesn't exist already
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| 15:59 | (I was thinking to symlink /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf to the examples dir, then I saw we'd need to use an ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf.in to make it arch specific, then I thought, why do we want this to be arch specific when it can be "all", and I ended up to the "default" symlink idea...)
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| 16:01 | Btw, I'll split the proxy-dhcp ranges to a different file, e.g. ltsp-server-dnsmasq-ranges.conf, so that the main file can be just a symlink
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| 16:11 | <engelbert> hello
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| 16:14 | <alkisg> Hi engelbert
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| 16:28 | <bennabiy[m]> alkisg: I like the idea of defaulting to "default" for the chroot, as a symlink.
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| 16:28 | <alkisg> Cool, we have +2 so far :D
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| 16:33 | <vagrantc> alkisg: i've thought about such a thing in the past... no strong objections in theory
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| 16:34 | <alkisg> Nice
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| 16:34 | It's good that we're early in the debian release cycle, it's easier to convince to accept changes :D
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| 16:35 | *you
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| 16:37 | <vagrantc> indeed
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| 16:37 | it also helps that it's an idea i had years ago, but didn't get much interest then
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| 21:15 | <Guest15423> bonsoir
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