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Channel log from 16 March 2007 (all times are UTC)
| 00:11 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, what version of bzr do you use?
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| 00:11 | <vagrantc> 0.11-1.1 ... what's in debian etch
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| 00:12 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, ok same as me
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| 00:12 | :p
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| 00:57 | vagrantc, are you there?
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| 00:58 | * vagrantc awaits a question | |
| 00:59 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> about the last part of the http://wiki.debian.org/LTSPDevelopment , the example is well done?
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| 00:59 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: i don't know. i use bzr slightly differently
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| 01:00 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, can you tell me how?
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| 01:00 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: well ... i typically have a directory ... say ~/bzr/ltsp
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| 01:01 | gonzaloaf_laptop: bzr init-repo --trees ~/bzr/ltsp
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| 01:01 | cd ~/bzr/ltsp
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| 01:01 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> then?
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| 01:01 | <vagrantc> bzr get http://bzr.debian.org/bzr/pkg-ltsp/main pkg-ltsp-main
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| 01:02 | bzr get pkg-ltsp-main my-own-branch
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| 01:02 | or
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| 01:02 | bzr get pkg-ltsp-main some-feature-branch
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| 01:02 | and then start playing around with the code in those branches
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| 01:03 | i think the example uses the checkout feature, wich means you can't commit unless it commits to the remote repository too ...
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| 01:03 | i was meaning to revamp the ltsp pages on the debian wiki
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| 01:06 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> well "bzr branch" is the same of "bzr get", its just an alias right?
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| 01:06 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 01:07 | branch == get == clone
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| 01:07 | co == checkout != get
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| 01:08 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> ci = checkin =commit
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| 01:08 | ci == checkin == commit
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| 01:08 | :p
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| 01:08 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: were you using a different nick earlier?
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| 01:09 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, yep... g333k, I told it just when I connect today
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| 01:09 | vagrantc, why?
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| 01:09 | <vagrantc> ah, yes.
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| 01:10 | gonzaloaf_laptop: because i was wondering if you were the same person, or a new person showing interest :)
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| 01:10 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, yep... I am the same
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| 01:11 | <Jenna> hey all
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| 01:11 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, its my first time involving in a big project, so I have to get the pre know-how before, using a rvs and understand the way the project moves
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| 01:12 | <Jenna> Anyone with info on how to lockdown gnome panels in the thin clients ?
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| 01:12 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, its difficult for me to attend the university, work and ltsp, but I'll try my best
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| 01:13 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: well, glad you're hoping to make some time for it :)
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| 01:14 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, have you tried pessulus
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| 01:14 | ?
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| 01:14 | <Jenna> yup . luck
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| 01:14 | no luck i.e.
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| 01:14 | not even with gconf-editor
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| 01:14 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, why not?
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| 01:14 | <Jenna> dont know. btw am I install it in the right place.
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| 01:15 | I just " yum install pessulus" on the server.
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| 01:15 | I was just wondering in I need to yum intall in on /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/ ?
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| 01:15 | what do u reckon ?
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| 01:15 | <vagrantc> most certainly not
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| 01:16 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, you have to install it on the server
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| 01:16 | Jenna, you have to create a profile
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| 01:16 | <vagrantc> though if the fedora folks ever get around to implementing ltsp5, you might start using yum in the ltsp chroots :)
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| 01:16 | <Jenna> yeah I installed it on the server
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| 01:16 | gonzaloaf_laptop, ; profile ? how ? what profile ?
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| 01:17 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, I got It! I tried sabayon before and it was wonderful, can you try it?
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| 01:17 | <Jenna> vagrantc, : yeah . I think it will take some time b4 that happens.
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| 01:18 | <vagrantc> Jenna: more than time, it will just take a couple people who really want to see it happen, i suspect.
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| 01:18 | <Jenna> gonzaloaf_laptop, : are u telling me to abondon my production server of k12ltsp & swithover to sabayon
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| 01:18 | ?
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| 01:18 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, ltsp 4/5? centos/fedora?
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| 01:19 | <Jenna> yeah. I have heard guys at FC7 are trying to integrate it ltsp5 into it
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| 01:19 | anyway I right now I have this apparently miniscule issue of locking the panels
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| 01:19 | <vagrantc> all we see are rumours, no code.
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| 01:19 | <Jenna> gonzaloaf_laptop, : what profiles are u talking about ? how do I create them
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| 01:21 | gonzaloaf_laptop, : by profile u mean , a user group ?
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| 01:21 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, threre is an utility for debian/ubuntu sabayon==system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings, Sabayon provides a sane way to edit GConf defaults and GConf mandatory keys: the same way you edit your desktop.Sabayon launches profiles in an Xnest window. Any changes you make in the Xnest window are saved back to the profile file, which can then be applied to user's accounts.
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| 01:22 | Jenna, so with it you create a profile and assign to all your clients, so the will see the same desktop profile, with/without you have changed
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| 01:22 | Jenna, yum search sabayon
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| 01:23 | <Jenna> hmm. btw I though sabayon was/is a distro ?
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| 01:23 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, I just realize that :$
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| 01:23 | Jenna, but is also an app
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| 01:24 | Jenna, do you have a debian around there?
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| 01:25 | <Jenna> hmm. not really
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| 01:25 | Im using rpm based distros mostly at work
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| 01:25 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, does #yum search sabayon, gives you any result?
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| 01:26 | <Jenna> only debian looka like Dreamlinux here on my home
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| 01:26 | yeah. got fews results.
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| 01:26 | sabayon.1386 and sabayon-admin.i386
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| 01:26 | which one should I yum
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| 01:27 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> the first one I think, can you paste the description of each one?
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| 01:28 | <Jenna> sabayon: Sabayon is a tool to help sysadmins and user change and maintain the
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| 01:28 | default behaviour of the GNOME desktop.
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| 01:28 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, you got it
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| 01:28 | <Jenna> sabayon-admin: Graphical tools for Sabayon profile management
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| 01:28 | The sabayon-admin package contains the graphical tools which a
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| 01:28 | sysadmin should use to manage Sabayon profiles.
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| 01:29 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, install both then... I think you will need both of them
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| 01:29 | play around and tell us the results
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| 01:29 | <Jenna> okay. sure.
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| 01:29 | btw thanx gonzy
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| 01:29 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, np
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| 01:31 | vagrantc, you recommend me to start patching some bugs right?
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| 01:31 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: sure
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| 01:31 | <Jenna> would u be around for a while, tonight ?
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| 01:31 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> Jenna, yep maybe 1 more hour
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| 01:31 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: though, mind you, right now we're in freeze, and significant code changes are likely to be unacceptible
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| 01:32 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: but hopefully we can soon start working on lenny
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| 01:32 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, where are they?
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| 01:32 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: where are what?
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| 01:32 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, the bugs list
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| 01:32 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: there's a link to it on the LTSPDevelopment page
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| 01:33 | gonzaloaf_laptop: or http://bugs.debian.org/src:ltsp
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| 01:33 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, what is lenny?
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| 01:33 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: the release of debian after etch
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| 01:35 | gonzaloaf_laptop: sadly, we might not be able to get any non release-critical bugs fixed in ltsp right now
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| 01:35 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, Ohh I didnt know, so we have to focus on patch as much bugs as we can to make ltsp pkg be included on etch?
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| 01:36 | <vagrantc> gonzaloaf_laptop: no, it's currently included in etch, and no release-critical bugs have shown themselves yet that would get it removed.
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| 01:36 | gonzaloaf_laptop: but there are some important bugs we may not be able to get fixed
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| 01:37 | <gonzaloaf_laptop> vagrantc, ohh
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| 04:53 | <envite> Hello all from Spain
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| 05:19 | <envite> ouch :(
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| 07:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> g'morning
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| 07:37 | ogra: hi r u there?
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| 07:45 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hey at edubuntu how can i loggin in the client?.. i make a client user and ltsp-client try to loggin but reboot the X again
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| 07:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> alguien activo por ahi?
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| 07:59 | somebody active there?
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| 08:01 | <envite> activo, dime
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| 08:03 | <IRCzito> :D
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| 08:04 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> envite: tengo el edubuntu acabado de instalar
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| 08:04 | pero no me entra el user
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| 08:04 | hace pa entrar pero me saca de nuevo al login
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| 08:04 | pnse que q tenia el user logueado
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| 08:04 | y cree otro
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| 08:04 | y sigue igual
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| 08:04 | como hago pa q entre el cliente
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| 08:07 | envite: ?
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| 08:12 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: in edubuntu why if i try login like a user created in the server gdm try to logging and reboot again to login screen?
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| 08:13 | <envite> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: I remember that happening to me
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| 08:13 | but now i dont remember which the problem was
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| 08:15 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thats strange
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| 08:15 | can't access :)
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| 08:29 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cliebow: can u help with edubuntu?
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| 08:31 | <cliebow> prob not..but ill listen 8~)
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| 08:32 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> why if i try login like a user created in the server gdm try to logging and reboot again to login screen?
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| 08:33 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: as far as i know it could be one of 3 things: 1. The user account has a prob (try logging in on server) 2. you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys 3. you dont have a desktop (like gnome) installed on the server or /etc/X11/Xsession is not executable
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| 08:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: i guess then left me use update sshkeys
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| 08:33 | <cliebow> i was going to say that too..
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| 08:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> Gadi: i make installed server and run a client
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| 08:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> just that
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| 08:34 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok ltsp-update-sshkeys ranned
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| 09:25 | <ogra> Gadi, 2) isa only needed if any IP data changed since you built the chroot ...
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| 09:26 | ltsp-update-sshkeys is run by ltsp-build-client *and* every time an interface comes up
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| 09:26 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 09:26 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> now edubuntu works with sound and logged ok
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| 09:26 | now have to test the devices
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| 09:26 | <Gadi> sh3mh4mf0r4sh: what did you need to do to fix it?
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| 09:27 | <ogra> if you have installed an edubuntu on a two NIC machine all will be configured right ... only if the HW doesnt fit this scheme manual work is needed
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| 09:27 | <dmorar> hi, im having a bad day with ltsp sound, i found a guide on the wiki but it seems its a little old (and fuzzy??) , can anyone give me a guideline?
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| 09:27 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> don't know... i test
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> dmorar: LTSP 4.2 or 5?
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| 09:27 | <dmorar> Gadi: 4.2
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| 09:27 | <Gadi> Gnome or KDE?
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| 09:27 | or other?
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| 09:28 | <dmorar> Gadi: KDE
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| 09:28 | <Gadi> ok, what seems to be the problem?
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| 09:28 | <dmorar> Gadi: lol
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| 09:28 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: where is the uhmm
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| 09:28 | i insert a cd in the client
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| 09:28 | client not mount
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| 09:28 | :|
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| 09:29 | floopy either
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| 09:29 | <Gadi> dmorar: do you get an error when the client boots about not detecting the sound card?
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| 09:30 | <dmorar> Gadi: i can't find the arts tab in kde, i wrote this line in the tls.conf SOUND_DAEMON = esd (and in boot time it says i have a mistake in the sound module ) , and i dont know if i have to use nasd or esd or alsa---
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| 09:30 | <Gadi> well, alsa is not a choice
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| 09:30 | only nas and esd
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| 09:30 | <dmorar> ok, which one is better?
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| 09:30 | <Gadi> we'll start with esd, though KDE folks sometime have an easier time with nas
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| 09:30 | <dmorar> ok
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| 09:31 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, is that the user you created during install or a new one
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| 09:31 | <dmorar> Gadi: i'm running slackware if this is relevant 4 u, :)
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| 09:31 | <Gadi> bleh, slackware
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| 09:31 | <dmorar> gadi: lol
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| 09:31 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: new
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| 09:31 | <Gadi> what is this attraction to slackware?
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| 09:31 | anyhow...
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| 09:31 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> flash recognize but not show either
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| 09:31 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, try with the other user ...
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| 09:31 | <dmorar> Gadi: its so easy... (everything but sound)
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| 09:31 | <Gadi> sounds like its not autodetecting the module for your soundcard
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| 09:32 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: how other? make 1 again?
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| 09:32 | <Gadi> do you know what soundcard you have?
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| 09:32 | in the client
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| 09:32 | <dmorar> ok, so what should i do... this might be an intel
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| 09:32 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, no the one you created during install
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| 09:32 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok
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| 09:32 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, for new users see the screenshot at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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| 09:33 | <cliebow> dmorar, run lspci and see what bus soundcard is on
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| 09:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ok i read it now
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| 09:33 | <cliebow> then lspci -n to get pci id on that bus
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| 09:33 | <Gadi> dmorar: sorry - multitasking
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| 09:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> wehll my user when i created during install can't mount floppy
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| 09:33 | <Gadi> anyhow, ...
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| 09:33 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cdrom either
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| 09:33 | said: no media found .. and the floppy.. can't mount /dev
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| 09:33 | just that
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| 09:34 | <dmorar> cliebow, is there a way to get a shel (if i commented the line in lts.conf ?)
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| 09:34 | <Gadi> dmorar: I would suggest grabbing this package and installing it: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#esd_ALSA_sound_on_LTSP_4_2
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| 09:34 | <dmorar> ok, lemme see
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| 09:34 | <Gadi> this will allow you to specify ALSA sound card modules rather than OSS ones for the client to use
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| 09:35 | Then, if it continues to fail to autodetect, you can add a line like: SMODULE_01 = "snd-intel8x0"
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| 09:36 | which is prolly the driver you need for an intel sound card
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| 09:36 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, thats a stock edubuntu ? you didnt install anything, or fiddle around anywhere before testing ?
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| 09:36 | <dmorar> ok, Gadi, lemme c
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| 09:37 | Gadi: anyway i can change to another client and try it
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| 09:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: wait
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| 09:37 | i check your screenshot of check marcks
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| 09:37 | i test again
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| 09:37 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, and where do you see therse error messages ?
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| 09:37 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> I installed your link passme yesterday ..just installed and test this
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| 09:37 | ogra: in the syslog
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| 09:37 | <ogra> ah, ok
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| 09:38 | you need to log out the user if you changed the setting for him
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| 09:38 | it will only take affect on next login
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| 09:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> hehe
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| 09:38 | now floppy show the icon
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| 09:38 | and the files inside
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| 09:38 | :D
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| 09:38 | <ogra> good
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| 09:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> is a cool pint
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| 09:38 | <ogra> thats how it should be :)
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| 09:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> left me the cdrom and memorys sticks
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| 09:39 | <ogra> well, if floppy works the others should work as well :)
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| 09:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cdrom can't mount :(
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> ogra: did any of the printer automagic stuff make it into feisty?
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| 09:39 | <ogra> Gadi, there was no spec for it ...
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> ah
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| 09:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: now yes
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| 09:39 | <Gadi> huh
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| 09:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> have to eject and inject again
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| 09:40 | sorry :)
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| 09:40 | * Gadi has fuzzy memory | |
| 09:40 | <ogra> only jetpipe made it in as lp_server replacement ...
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| 09:40 | and jetpipe cant do serial
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| 09:40 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> now the devices of the milleniem of my problems with my navigation room with memorys deletes :S
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| 09:40 | <dmorar> Gadi: ok, now i'd installed this package, should i reboot the client?
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| 09:40 | <Gadi> dmorar: yes
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| 09:40 | <dmorar> Gadi: Ok, then i'll be back :P
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| 09:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: cool
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| 09:41 | all fine
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| 09:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> in this case show this memory.. have to found other to se if not stay at cache
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| 09:41 | wait
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| 09:41 | <ogra> great :)=
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| 09:41 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> oh btw
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| 09:41 | the clients
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| 09:42 | i mean
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| 09:42 | the users
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| 09:42 | Gadi: ayudame ahi. como se traduce "acostumbrados" en ingles
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> are used to
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| 09:42 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> thaxs
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| 09:42 | <Gadi> (or accustomed to)
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| 09:43 | lo mismo que en espanol
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| 09:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: the users in the clients are accustomed to windows.. to select the memory to unplugged and later disconnect
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| 09:43 | now
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| 09:43 | the right clic not said
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| 09:43 | umount
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| 09:43 | <ogra> right
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| 09:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> just they can unplugged and no happend nothign?
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| 09:43 | <ogra> you can just unplug
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| 09:43 | yeah
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| 09:43 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cool
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| 09:43 | the problem is
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> just make sure the light on the memstick is not blinking
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| 09:44 | ;)
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| 09:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> they think to that was unproperlly to devices
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| 09:44 | Gadi: course jejeje
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> it is in general
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| 09:44 | <ogra> the code syncs the data and unmounts automatically if there was no data transfer for two seconds ... the user wont see that
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| 09:44 | <Gadi> ltspfs tries to be user-proof ;)
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| 09:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cooll
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| 09:44 | ok..
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| 09:44 | <ogra> so you can always just unplug without fearing dataloss
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| 09:44 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> test other floppy and other flash and go away to install the new server
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| 09:45 | ah.. other things i'm suffred with 4.2
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| 09:45 | now i test with the laptop
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| 09:45 | and works cool
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| 09:45 | when i logged my 15 clients
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| 09:45 | pass same like 4.2
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| 09:45 | desktop showme the 15 floppys(N)
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| 09:45 | and have to set mandatory in the gnome-conf?
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| 09:45 | to not show devices?
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| 09:45 | <dmorar> Hi!
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| 09:45 | <ogra> the desktop is patched
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| 09:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> cool
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| 09:46 | :D
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| 09:46 | ok
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| 09:46 | <ogra> it will only show you devices you have access to
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| 09:46 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 09:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> perfect
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| 09:46 | <MrChicken> Hola sh3mh4mf0r4sh
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| 09:46 | <ogra> so none of the others floppies should appear
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| 09:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> MrChicken: que vola
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| 09:46 | <MrChicken> ahi vamos
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| 09:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: u c! :)
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| 09:46 | <MrChicken> solo me falta habilitar sonido
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| 09:46 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: NOW i have a success story ;)
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| 09:46 | jajajaja
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| 09:46 | * ogra hopes thats true for floppies as well, i didnt write or test the floppy stuff ;) | |
| 09:46 | <dmorar> Gadi: Ok, i saw a lot of alsa messages but can't say if they concluded with success or with fail, when i do lsmod i can see some oss modules, and lspci shows the intel sound card...
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> dmorar: from a shell on the client u mean?
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| 09:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> this will be explotion here at cuba.. never plave here is implemented this
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| 09:47 | brb
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| 09:47 | <MrChicken> Hello... I'm trying to set up local sound... I've read the wiki but cant find where it tells how tod o that
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| 09:47 | <dmorar> Gadi: yes
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| 09:47 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> to install a new server
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| 09:47 | <Gadi> dmorar: excellent
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| 09:47 | ur half-way there
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| 09:47 | <MrChicken> can anybody direct me to the right place please?
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| 09:47 | :$
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| 09:48 | <dmorar> Gadi: ok... :) , what should come next?
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> dmorar: now, you just need to tell arts to use esd as its backend
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| 09:48 | <dmorar> Gadi: ok, now... how do i do that?
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| 09:48 | <Gadi> thats usually in the KDE control panel
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| 09:48 | (if it doesnt crash :P )
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| 09:48 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: later i ask u some question..to when i talk in the conference or my cuban wiki page about ltsp the users can read it can understetd the philosophy of this .. about how work .. why things happend.. etc etc
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| 09:49 | some technics questions. ;)
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| 09:49 | <dmorar> Gadi ok, i go control panel - sound -sound system (i have the spanish edition, so maybe some names will be different) , but no arts tab
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| 09:49 | <ogra> ok
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> dmorar: is there something about sound system?
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| 09:49 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> BRB
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| 09:49 | <Gadi> like a pulldown?
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| 09:50 | <dmorar> yes
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| 09:50 | in hardware tab
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| 09:50 | <Gadi> ok, choose: Enlightened Sound Daemon
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| 09:50 | <dmorar> ok
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| 09:50 | <ogra> *shudder*
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| 09:51 | thast so last century :P
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> ogra: more like last month
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| 09:51 | :)
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| 09:51 | <ogra> heh
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| 09:51 | <dmorar> "error connecting to server, will continue to use null" -> or something like that
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> dmorar: ok
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| 09:51 | <ogra> pulseaudio is the future !
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> you may need to logout/in
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| 09:51 | or some such
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| 09:51 | <dmorar> Ok
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| 09:51 | <Gadi> or kill off artsd on the server
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| 09:52 | <Gadi> and log in
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| 09:52 | ogra: did you see a big bump in video performance with pulse?
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| 09:52 | <dmorar> Gadi: same thing
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| 09:52 | <ogra> Gadi, not really
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| 09:52 | but then i never use video on morew than one client
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| 09:53 | <Gadi> ogra: even on one client
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| 09:53 | you should
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| 09:53 | <dmorar> Gadi: i dont think i have esd running on the server, or something like that?
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| 09:53 | <ogra> it was neither slower nor faster on that
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| 09:53 | <Gadi> dmorar: make sure you have packages for esound on the server
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| 09:53 | <ogra> i mean, it was never problematic, not even with esd here
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| 09:53 | <Gadi> ogra: that may be due to the ssh proxying
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| 09:53 | then, you never thoroughly tested ;)
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| 09:54 | <ogra> movies run fluid without probs
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| 09:54 | <dmorar> Gadi: ok, how i do that?, (i mean name of the packages)
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| 09:54 | <ogra> in fullscreen ...
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| 09:54 | DVDs played from the servers DVD as well
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| 09:54 | <Gadi> dmorar: I dont know anything about slackware :(
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| 09:54 | <Gadi> ogra: great to hear
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| 09:54 | that should not have been true with esd
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| 09:55 | not without video skip
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| 09:55 | <ogra> no probs ...
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| 09:55 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra:
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| 09:55 | <Gadi> its a fundamental deficiency in esd
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| 09:55 | <ogra> but then as i said, i never have had more than one client running with video
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| 09:55 | <MrChicken> ogra ... I havent been able to get the sound working
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| 09:55 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> i'm seeing the dhcp.conf and is very different by default like other versions
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| 09:55 | <MrChicken> I went to autodetect soundcards and I get "no sound cards"
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| 09:55 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> where server said to dhcp send the kernel to client by PXE?
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| 09:55 | <dmorar> dmorar 8236 0.8 2.3 120312 49176 ? Sl 09:48 0:01 /opt/kde/bin/artsd -F 7 -S 1024 -a esd -n -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
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| 09:56 | will this suffice?
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| 09:56 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf is a very slimmed done one
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| 09:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ah
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| 09:56 | <ogra> and the one we use
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| 09:56 | <Gadi> dmorar: I think that looks ok
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| 09:56 | <ogra> MrChicken, on ubuntu ltsp ?
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| 09:56 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> yes i c that
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| 09:56 | <Gadi> dmorar: can you do: which esdplay
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| 09:56 | <ogra> you shouldnt need to run any detection tool
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| 09:57 | <MrChicken> ogra ... FC4 ltsp
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| 09:57 | running Gnome
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| 09:58 | <ogra> MrChicken, sorry, no clue about fedora here, wiki-ltsp.org is your best bet i guess
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| 09:59 | <Gadi> bbiab
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| 09:59 | <MrChicken> I guess it cant be that different from ubuntu
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| 09:59 | <ogra> MrChicken, usually setting SOUND=Y in lts.conf and exporting the right ESPEAKER variables should even work on fedora
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| 10:00 | <ogra> MrChicken, fedora doesnt have ltsp5 at all
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| 10:00 | the ltsp5 implementation totally relies on autodetection mechanisms from the distro ...
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| 10:00 | its complertely different
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| 10:02 | <ogra> even though you are right for the netwoprk transport part of esd, thats identical since its the identical soundserver
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| 10:02 | <cliebow> !wiki
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| 10:02 | <ltspbot> cliebow: "wiki" is the LTSP wiki. You can find it at http://wiki.ltsp.org
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| 10:02 | <vagrantc> !sound
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| 10:02 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 10:03 | <dmorar> hi
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| 10:03 | Gadi: i noticed i dont have /dev/dsp
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| 10:04 | <Gadi> as well you shouldn't - you are no longer using OSS
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| 10:06 | <ogra> vagrantc, hey, how was your talk ?
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| 10:06 | * MrChicken is using ltsp 4.3 | |
| 10:06 | <MrChicken> 4.2
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| 10:07 | * MrChicken is using ltsp 4.2 | |
| 10:07 | <MrChicken> sorry
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| 10:07 | <dmorar> Gadi: ok, but i still got the same "can't connect to the server " error
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| 10:08 | <vagrantc> ogra: went really good. :)
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| 10:08 | ogra: we actually did an edgy ltsp install. heh. :)
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| 10:09 | <ogra> cool
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| 10:09 | vagrantc, do you have linked your instructions for localdev support on the ltsp wiki somewhere ?
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> dmorar: as a test, open a terminal window on the desktop and type: echo $ESPEAKER
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| 10:10 | <ogra> we had several people tyring out the debian tarball ...
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> if it returns nothing: echo $DISPLAY
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| 10:10 | <ogra> asking how to get localdev running
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| 10:10 | <Gadi> and: export ESPEAKER=<IP>:16001
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| 10:10 | then: esdplay <some sound file>
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| 10:11 | and see if you get sound
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| 10:11 | <dmorar> Gadi: ip is the serv or the client?
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| 10:11 | <Gadi> client
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| 10:13 | <vagrantc> ogra: you know, i don't think i've linked those in ...
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| 10:13 | <ogra> we should have a documentatzion or something somewhere ...
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| 10:13 | <vagrantc> yeah, the debian tarball for etch probably doesn't include ltspfs
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| 10:13 | <ogra> i kno
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| 10:13 | w
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| 10:13 | <ogra> so lets catch that by docs :)
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| 10:14 | <vagrantc> i started a series of wiki pages at http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP
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| 10:14 | <ogra> its a critical feature nearly everyone wants :)
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| 10:14 | <vagrantc> i know, i know.
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| 10:14 | <ogra> i bet the ubuntu doc would work as well though ... (if you kept the stuff in the initscript and ldm )
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| 10:15 | <vagrantc> yeah, everything is ready to go, you just have to install the ltspfs* packages in the appropriate places
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| 10:15 | <uuuuuuuu> hi, i'm getting "segment does not fit in memory" error while loading kernel from ubuntu tarball
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| 10:15 | <vagrantc> i'm hoping to get an upload this weekend that fixes a couple bugs and adds some more documentation.
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| 10:15 | <ogra> vagrantc, ok, then i can point people to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices as well
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| 10:16 | <dmorar> Audio File Library: '/opt/kde/share/apps/klettres/nl/alpha/a-9.ogg': unrecognized audio file format [error 0]
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| 10:16 | <uuuuuuuu> vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 from ubuntu_6.10_i386/boot which is in ltsp_ubuntu_6.10_i386-2.tar.bz2
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| 10:16 | <Gadi> dmorar: try a regular wav file
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| 10:16 | <dmorar> wav?
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| 10:16 | <Gadi> as opposed to an ogg
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| 10:17 | <ogra> uuuuuuuu, did you run tghe appropriate scripts to copy the kernel to the tftp dir ?
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| 10:17 | <Gadi> sounds like you do not have support for oggs
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| 10:17 | <dmorar> ok, i get no sound
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| 10:17 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 10:18 | <ogra> Gadi, btw, did you see th enew features in ubuntu, like the automatic codec loading of libgimmecodec ?
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> perhaps its best if you follow the KDE+NAS directions instead (I think KDE folks have more luck with that)
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| 10:18 | its on:
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| 10:18 | !sound
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| 10:18 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 10:18 | <Gadi> ogra: seriously?
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| 10:18 | <ogra> yes
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| 10:19 | <Gadi> neat
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| 10:19 | <ogra> yup
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| 10:19 | totem just pops up a window, if youi click ok it will install the needed drivers ...
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| 10:19 | <Gadi> thats a long time coming
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| 10:19 | excellent
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| 10:20 | now, if someone could come up with an email alternative to evolution that doesnt suck, you'd be set ;)
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| 10:20 | <ogra> well, additionally the binary driver situation got a lot better as well ...
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| 10:20 | evolution==integration ...
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| 10:20 | integration==tons of features ...
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| 10:20 | <Gadi> evolution==sucking much
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| 10:20 | <ogra> tons of features==sucks easier
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> it lacks basic features
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| 10:21 | <ogra> use sylpheed :)
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> which is part of why it sucks
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| 10:21 | <ogra> mutt for gnome :P
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| 10:21 | <Gadi> sylpheed lacks integration
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| 10:21 | ;)
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| 10:21 | * Gadi thinks the evo devs have never used email | |
| 10:21 | <ogra> LOL
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| 10:22 | evo is great with pop3 ...
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| 10:22 | unbeaten
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| 10:22 | <uuuuuuuu> ogra, now with nbi.img it goes
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| 10:22 | <Gadi> not at all
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| 10:22 | <ogra> uuuuuuuu, are you using etherboot ?
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| 10:22 | <Gadi> it lacks the ability to delete emails from the server
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| 10:22 | a basic function
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| 10:22 | <ogra> huh ?
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| 10:22 | <Gadi> imho
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| 10:22 | <ogra> i have had that here for years ...
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| 10:22 | <uuuuuuuu> i think so
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| 10:22 | <Gadi> say you want to leave emails on your server
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| 10:23 | and pop down a copy
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| 10:23 | but you want to have it so that if you delete a local email, it deletes from the server
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| 10:23 | <ogra> uuuuuuuu, well, then nbi.img is what you want, right ... would you mind pointing that out in one sentence oin the tarball wikipage ? i think its not mentioned there
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| 10:23 | <Gadi> so your server doesnt max out
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| 10:23 | <ogra> right, thats how i udes evo
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| 10:23 | *used
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| 10:23 | <Gadi> doesnt work
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| 10:23 | <ogra> until i switched my server to ipmaps
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| 10:23 | *impas
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| 10:24 | ergh
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| 10:24 | IMAPS
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| 10:24 | <Gadi> it just keeps all emails on server
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| 10:24 | <uuuuuuuu> ogra, i'm not registered...
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| 10:25 | <Gadi> I wont even talk about its poor use of memory
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| 10:25 | <ogra> register :)
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| 10:25 | Gadi, right, mem wise its not great, but show3 me something better
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| 10:25 | <Gadi> using about as much virtual memory as mailbox size
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| 10:26 | evo is the perfect storm of a broken email environment ;)
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| 10:27 | <ogra> i donmt think its worse or5 better than outlook
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| 10:27 | and i dont suspect it to improve much over outlook, novell maintains it :P
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| 10:28 | * vagrantc wonders why stratus needed the '-o', 'StrictHostKeyChecking no' bit added to ldm | |
| 10:28 | <ogra> if you want a fast and reliable mailer use mutt ....
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| 10:28 | <Gadi> i think outlook express has more features :P
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| 10:28 | and doesnt crash as much
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| 10:28 | due to bad memory mgmt
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| 10:28 | give mutt to an end user
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| 10:28 | c'mon
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| 10:28 | <ogra> vagrantc, he didnt run ltsp-update-sshkeys i think
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| 10:29 | <Gadi> thats the problem - the developers obviously dont use the program
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| 10:29 | <vagrantc> ogra: yes, but we've got the if-up.d code, too.
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| 10:29 | <ogra> but adding '-o', 'StrictHostKeyChecking no' wil drop us down one scurity level ... i wont include it by default
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| 10:29 | <vagrantc> ogra: yes, i don't really want it either ...
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| 10:29 | <ogra> a switch is possible though
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| 10:29 | <Gadi> ooh
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| 10:29 | I second the motion for that switch
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| 10:30 | <ogra> but even that would be called --run-insecure-if-you-know-whatya-doin
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| 10:30 | <Gadi> in addition to specifying a different app srvr
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| 10:30 | :)
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| 10:30 | <vagrantc> ogra: i say let users configure ssh_opts via lts.conf
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| 10:30 | <uuuuuuuu> ogra: done
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| 10:30 | <ogra> neither will be a default feature, but patches accepted ;)
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| 10:30 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: look this
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| 10:30 | Mar 16 11:18:57 192.168.0.249 kernel: [17181548.472000] sda: unknown partition table
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| 10:30 | <uuuuuuuu> blackout, UPS beeping... bye
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| 10:30 | <Gadi> hey, if ur already making the switch... ;)
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| 10:30 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, your kernel cant read the partitions
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| 10:31 | <ogra> Gadi, i'm not making such switches
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| 10:31 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> this an other memory stick
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| 10:31 | <Gadi> :)
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| 10:31 | <ogra> not if there isnt something thats really convincing me
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| 10:31 | <vagrantc> i'll work on a patch for tweaking ssh_opts ... should be easy.
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| 10:31 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> then?
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| 10:31 | <ogra> vagrantc, feisty has SSH_OVERRIDE_PORT already
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| 10:32 | * Gadi sets up recorded loop message to play while ogra sleeps | |
| 10:32 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> continued will half memorys works and other half not works
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| 10:32 | <vagrantc> ogra: just the PORT ?
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| 10:32 | <ogra> vagrantc, i had a bug about it
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| 10:32 | someone with a huge setup wanted to run multiple ssh servers
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| 10:32 | on different ports
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| 10:32 | <vagrantc> sure.
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| 10:33 | i would think an SSH_EXTRA_OPTS or something that just appends to existing ssh_opts should be more flexible.
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| 10:33 | <ogra> sure, feel free to :)
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| 10:33 | <vagrantc> and SSH_OPTS to override the default
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| 10:33 | or ... LDM_*OPTS
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| 10:34 | <ogra> nah
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| 10:34 | lets keep that for ldm options :)
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| 10:34 | <vagrantc> it's trivial to write, in either case.
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| 10:34 | heh.
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> vagrantc: I dare you to make an SSH_OVERRIDE_SERVER
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| 10:34 | ;)
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| 10:34 | I just dare you
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| 10:34 | <vagrantc> Gadi: doing ... ?
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| 10:34 | <Gadi> Overriding the ssh server to use
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| 10:34 | <ogra> i plan to spec out a new ldm or at least an improved one in sevilla on the next conf
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i thought we already did that ...
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| 10:35 | <Gadi> you did?
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| 10:35 | <ogra> not that i know of
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| 10:35 | <vagrantc> hrm.
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| 10:35 | i definitely pushed for it at some point.
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| 10:36 | but it's apparently not there.
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| 10:36 | <ogra> i'm still pondering zeroconf integration for that instead of config options
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| 10:36 | i havent it in my tree either
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| 10:36 | * Gadi prefers specified vs zeroconf | |
| 10:36 | <ogra> i know you had a feature tree for it, you showed it to me once
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| 10:36 | <vagrantc> i think a one-line patch would add something like LDM_SERVER
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| 10:37 | oh, i had a user@SERVER feature
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| 10:37 | <ogra> yeah
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| 10:37 | the one i didnt like
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| 10:37 | <vagrantc> so you could specify any server in the login window
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| 10:37 | * Gadi prefers not allowing the user to choose a server themselves | |
| 10:38 | <Gadi> or not require it to be a user decision
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| 10:38 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> Gadi: you and all your pesky preferences
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| 10:38 | <Gadi> well, talk about security
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| 10:38 | part of security is control
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| 10:38 | :)
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| 10:38 | <vagrantc> well, you have control over the allowed servers by way of ssh keys
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| 10:38 | it won't connect to any server it doesn't know about
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| 10:38 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> ogra: uff some a littles memorys in particular
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| 10:39 | i test Other again and this works fine
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| 10:39 | Mar 16 11:25:30 192.168.0.249 kernel: [17181942.084000] sda: sda1
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> can you do that on a workstation basis?
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| 10:39 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, the partition table of the other one is broken
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| 10:39 | <vagrantc> Gadi: not without a lot of hacking, no.
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| 10:39 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> but
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| 10:39 | in the ubuntu works fine
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| 10:39 | and windows works fine
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> vagrantc: thats why it is preferrable to specify imho
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| 10:39 | <vagrantc> Gadi: but adding LDM_SERVER is a one-liner
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| 10:39 | <MrChicken> I'm getting a strange error... cmmpci module is not working
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| 10:39 | at least not loading
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| 10:39 | <Gadi> or at least be able to
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| 10:40 | <MrChicken> when trying to load the sound driver
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| 10:40 | can anybody help me out?
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| 10:41 | <vagrantc> Gadi: self.server = get_config ('LDM_SERVER') or get_config('SERVER')
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| 10:41 | <ogra> vagrantc, oh, btw, do you have any fix for the MODULE_xx handling i could pull into feisty ?
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| 10:41 | <vagrantc> ogra: to support options?
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| 10:41 | <ogra> yes
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| 10:41 | <vagrantc> ogra: not yet , but i was thinking about it the other day
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| 10:41 | <ogra> optinss seem to be the only usecase for that variable
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| 10:42 | i wouldnt know why else you should load modules manually on ubuntu
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| 10:42 | <Gadi> vagrantc: as always, you are my hero :)
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| 10:42 | <joebaker> Perl Locale, Language Errors when doing chroot into ltsp5 ubuntu Edgy. Any ideas?
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| 10:42 | * ogra imagines vagrantc in superman suit | |
| 10:42 | <ogra> joebaker, ignore
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| 10:42 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i haven't tested it, but i *think* it won't break anything.
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| 10:42 | <joebaker> thanks
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| 10:43 | <ogra> and they are not errors, they are warnings :)
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| 10:43 | feisty fixes that
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| 10:43 | <Gadi> vagrantc: certainly not with the StrictHostKeyChecking no option ;)
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| 10:43 | <ogra> right, you will need that
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| 10:43 | * vagrantc notes that debian has been free of such Locale warnings for months | |
| 10:43 | <ogra> which gets us well ... to the point where you could also use xdmcp :P
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| 10:43 | <vagrantc> Gadi: you can also add additional ssh keys to support
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| 10:44 | <ogra> vagrantc, yes, but debian hgas a completely different language handling
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| 10:44 | <vagrantc> without stricthostkeychecking ... the security of ldm is... weak.
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| 10:44 | <ogra> yeah
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| 10:45 | vagrantc, i also set the keymaps now ... for X and in console-setup
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| 10:45 | so things like XKBLayout isnt needed anymore ... only if you really want to differ from the server
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| 10:45 | <Gadi> ogra: strict host key checking blocks man-in-the-middle only - if you really were worried about security, you wouldnt have patched ssh to have a no encryption option :P
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| 10:45 | <ogra> Gadi, we didnt
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| 10:45 | <vagrantc> ogra: nice
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| 10:46 | <ogra> Gadi, and if we do the option will be called ItsYourOwnFaultThatHackersCanGetIn or something
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| 10:46 | <joebaker> LOCALDEV support. We use LDAP authentication. I suppose I need to put the PAM configurations for LDAP into the MueKow envoronment for localdev to work. I suspect it's the group membership for fuse
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| 10:46 | <Gadi> lol
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| 10:46 | <joebaker> that's the problem.
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| 10:46 | <ogra> iÄ'll probably even make it two or three times as long ,.,...
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| 10:47 | it should be a PITA to switch off security so people thing twice
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| 10:47 | * vagrantc loves the idea of an ItsYourOwnFaultThatHackersCanGetIn option | |
| 10:47 | <ogra> joebaker, yes, you need fuse ...
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| 10:49 | <joebaker> I havn't followed everything in the current SSH discussion, but maybe you could start another SSH daemon which is configured just for the subnet and runs on a different port. I wish OpenSSH could be configured to tunnel traffic without encryption. It's tunneling facillities are great, and I love using public key encryption for authentication, but it really should offer the cypher "none" as a workable option.
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| 10:49 | IMHO.
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| 10:56 | <dmorar> Gadi: i'm tottally lost with this..
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| 10:56 | <ogra> joebaker, thats what i just implemented in feisty ...
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| 10:56 | <ogra> but these guys want more
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| 10:57 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> what probram run over edubuntu to burn CDs
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| 10:57 | ?
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| 10:57 | program*
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| 10:57 | <ogra> just put in an empty CD ;)
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| 10:57 | <Gadi> ogra: so you *do* set the cypher to none?
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| 10:57 | <ogra> itz will pop up
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| 10:57 | Gadi, nope
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| 10:58 | Gadi, but i offer a non stanbdard port
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| 10:58 | optionally
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| 10:58 | <Gadi> ah
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| 10:58 | <dmorar> Gadi, in boot time i see an error msg, saying it could'nt find an open port
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| 10:58 | <ogra> cipher=none is something colinb watson doesnt like ... and if he can *smoehow* forget or oversee it he will do so
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> dmorar: for NAS?
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| 10:59 | <dmorar> yes
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| 10:59 | <Gadi> thats odd
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| 10:59 | <dmorar> ps
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| 10:59 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> well .. shoot cd/dvd creator but not know how used :S
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| 11:00 | <ogra> its a long ongoing fight between us :) he knopws he has to add it at some point since he agreed (with gnashing teeth)
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| 11:00 | <dmorar> root 9797 3188 0 10:26 tty1 00:00:00 nasd
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> oh, well thats good
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| 11:00 | so, at least its running
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| 11:00 | <dmorar> yes
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| 11:00 | <ogra> sh3mh4mf0r4sh, there is a button in the taskbar ... drop your files in the window and click it it should be self explaining
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| 11:00 | <Gadi> try changing the sound system to : Network Audio
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| 11:01 | <ogra> note also that we dont support burning on clients yet
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| 11:01 | <dmorar> Gadi: i dont see that option in the harware tab
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| 11:02 | <Gadi> dmorar: hmm... http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound#aRts
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| 11:03 | <sh3mh4mf0r4sh> wow so easy :D
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| 11:05 | <dmorar> Gadi: sorry, had to shutdown this client, so i dont see any networking audio on the hadrware tab
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| 11:09 | <dmorar> jmoraing.suroot.com [192.168.1.1] 16001 (?) : Connection refused
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| 11:12 | <uuuuuuuu> ok, now i've got ubuntu chroot booting
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| 11:12 | but
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| 11:13 | when the X session login appears (kdm) the keyboard stops working
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| 11:14 | i can quickly change with alt+f2 before this and get shell
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| 11:14 | <ogra> i think thats a longstanding bug in kdm ... (not a KDE user here so i'm not 100% sure)
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| 11:14 | try gdm
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| 11:14 | or even the default (ldm)
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| 11:15 | ldm is better anyway, neither sound nor localdev are implemnented for xdmcp connections
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| 11:15 | <uuuuuuuu> kdm was already working with ltsp 4.2 and from X -query and from previous settings
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| 11:15 | <ogra> well thats what i heard ...
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| 11:15 | i dont use or test gdm or kdm during ltsp development
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| 11:16 | since we dont focus on insecure xdmcp connections
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| 11:16 | <uuuuuuuu> i see
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| 11:16 | <ogra> thats why ldm was written first place :)
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| 11:17 | * ogra takes a break | |
| 11:18 | <dmorar> ogra, could you help me to get sound working in slack pleae...
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| 11:18 | uhh ok
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| 11:19 | <bgomes> dmorar: yesterday my friend IRCZito make ltsp-5 on slack, what is the version u use in your ltsp?
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| 11:20 | <dmorar> ltsp 4.2 in slackware 11
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| 11:20 | is there a ltsp 5 version for slack?
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| 11:20 | <bgomes> dmorar: but he use debian image for terminal
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| 11:21 | <dmorar> oic...
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| 11:21 | <bgomes> dmorar: there are one problem on script of sound with ltsp4 of slack
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| 11:22 | dmorar: I have ltsp on my pc, with slack em ltsp-4.2, Will check what was a problem... wait few minutes pleas
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| 11:23 | <dmorar> bgomes: ok
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| 11:24 | bgomes: which server did u use?, (esd or nasd) ?
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| 11:25 | <bgomes> dmorar: esd (it is default)
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| 11:25 | <dmorar> bgomes, ok
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| 11:27 | bgomes, i need to reboot to get esd on the client, please wait a second... ok?
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| 11:28 | <vagrantc> dmorar: there's no native ltsp 5 implementation for slackware, but you could grab a tarball:
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| 11:28 | !tarball
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| 11:28 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 11:29 | <dmorar> hi
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| 11:29 | again...
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| 11:29 | bgomes: ok, now im here...
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| 11:31 | <vagrantc> dmorar: there's no native ltsp 5 implementation for slackware, but you could grab a tarball:
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| 11:31 | !tarball
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| 11:32 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 11:32 | <bgomes> dmorar: wait
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| 11:32 | <dmorar> ok
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| 11:33 | <bgomes> dmorar: line 71 of /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/rc.sound
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| 11:33 | <bgomes> /bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001 -public -as 1 &
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| 11:34 | <dmorar> ok, i see it
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| 11:37 | <bgomes> dmorar: u chage this line?
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| 11:37 | <dmorar> this line is fine
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| 11:38 | <bgomes> dmorar: do u have a /dev/dsp on terminal ?
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| 11:38 | <dmorar> no i dont...
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| 11:39 | <bgomes> dmorar: whait is your sound card? ( lspci )
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| 11:39 | <dmorar> Gadi told me this doesn't matter cause i was using alsa modules (from wiki)
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| 11:39 | when i do lspci, i see an intel ac'97 ich4
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| 11:40 | do u need the chipset?
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| 11:40 | 82801DB ICH4 AC '97 CODEC
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| 11:41 | <bgomes> dmorar: do u know what is the modelo "oss" of your sound card?
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| 11:42 | <dmorar> oss ?, no i dont, but i could get in using a live cd and then check it out, but i think this will give me an alsa module, ain't it?
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| 11:43 | <bgomes> dmorar: ltsp-4.2 by default use oss drive
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| 11:44 | <dmorar> i installed the alsa package
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| 11:51 | <bgomes> dmorar: I never instaled ltsp with alsa packages
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| 11:52 | dmorar: I think better u use oss packages, search for correct module for your sound card
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| 11:52 | <dmorar> where should i look?
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| 11:52 | <Gadi> dmorar: sorry - im being torn away on something else
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| 11:53 | but your driver is fine
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| 11:53 | on your thin client
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| 11:53 | you are only stuck at gettint the applications to talk to the thin client's daemon
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| 11:53 | er, getting
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| 11:53 | ill be back a bit later ...
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| 12:10 | <joebaker> ogra: I'm installing Ubuntu Feisty Alpha 5 (Alternate install text mode) LTSP option - on a small test box with 64 megs of ram. Just to see it.
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| 12:46 | <dmorar> Gadi: np, i've been away too, anyway i'll be back in a while... thanks
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| 12:47 | <ogra> joebaker, please log bugs if you find any ... i susally only test edubuntu isos ...
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| 12:55 | <cberl1> Hi folks! Anyone done a hybrid ltsp-openmosix cluster?
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| 13:03 | <bgomes> dmorar: your sound is working?
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| 13:12 | <bgomes> IRCzito: hi
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| 13:28 | <sbalneav> hello!!
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| 13:29 | <jammcq> Scotty SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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| 13:29 | <sbalneav> hey!
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| 13:29 | <jammcq> hmm, too many 'S's, it wraps funny
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| 13:29 | <sbalneav> Have to go figure out where they've got the doco.
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| 13:30 | <joebaker> ogra: Bugs would get reported at Launchpad on project ltsp? How is that lp_server going to get fixed?
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| 13:46 | <plamengr> Hi, sbalneav! Sorry for the bothering... How can I specify a Floppy as a Local Dev in LTSP5? The server is on Debian sid?
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| 13:47 | the CD and the USB work well as a LocalDev
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| 13:50 | <sbalneav> Well, I'm not sure on Debian, hmmm, lets see
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| 13:50 | What does your /etc/udev/rules.d/88-ltsp.rules file look like?
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| 13:50 | in your ltsp chroot?
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| 13:51 | <plamengr> # /etc/udev/rules.d/88-ltsp.rules
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| 13:51 | ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="fd[0-9]", RUN+="add_fstab_entry %k auto"
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| 13:51 | ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="block", RUN+="add_fstab_entry %k"
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| 13:51 | ACTION=="remove", SUBSYSTEM=="block", RUN+="remove_fstab_entry %k"
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| 13:57 | <sbalneav> Hmm
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| 13:57 | That should pick it up
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| 13:58 | Unless the kernel isn't recognizing it as fd[0-9].
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| 13:58 | <sbalneav> it isn't coming up as fd0a or something goofy like that, is it?
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| 13:59 | <plamengr> no, it's /dev/fd0
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| 14:00 | <sbalneav> On the client, if you do a console login on alt-f1, does it show up in /etc/fstab?
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| 14:00 | you'll need to set a root password to login
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| 14:00 | somehting like:
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| 14:00 | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd root
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| 14:01 | <plamengr> it cathes USB, but not the Floppy
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| 14:02 | ltsp:~# cat /etc/fstab
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| 14:02 | /dev/root / unionfs defaults 0 0
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| 14:02 | tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,nosuid,nodev 0 0
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| 14:02 | /dev/sda1 /var/run/drives/usbdisk-sda1 vfat defaults 0 0
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| 14:10 | <bogor> what is the minimum RAM requirement for a ltsp server serving 15 thin clients
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| 14:10 | they most use OO.org
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| 14:10 | they also use firefox a lot
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| 14:11 | There is very little doc. in ltsp site
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| 14:11 | <plamengr> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
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| 14:12 | <bogor> thanks plamengr
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| 14:15 | <sbalneav> Hm
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| 14:15 | do you have a /dev/fd0?
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| 14:16 | <bogor> no its disabled in all clients, cdrom also disabled(physically)
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| 14:16 | <plamengr> yes
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| 14:16 | ltsp:~# cd /dev/fd
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| 14:16 | fd/ fd0
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| 14:18 | <bogor> Any more good documentation links (Plz)
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| 14:18 | on setting up the ltsp server
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| 14:18 | which is the best distro?
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| 14:19 | <plamengr> look at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WebHome
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| 14:37 | <IRCzito> sbalneav: yesterday with aid of the Jim I placed ltsp5 to function in the Slackware11 using root-tree (ltsp_debian_etch_i386-1.tar.bz2). Not yet I made tests with the local devices, but looking at the colloquy above, I connected in house to look to the archive 88-ltsp.rules and evidenced that it does not exist.
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| 14:38 | sbalneav: Exists some script for creates it?
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| 14:38 | <sbalneav> No, it should be there.
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| 14:40 | <IRCzito> I go try use another root-tree
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| 14:40 | <IRCzito> like ltsp_ubuntu_6.10_i386-2.tar.bz2
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| 14:40 | tanks
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| 14:41 | <bgomes> IRCzito: why u dont make one root tree?
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| 14:45 | <IRCzito> bgomes: because you not confirmed the place and the date :D
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| 14:47 | bgomes: tomorrow??
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| 15:00 | <dmorar> im back
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| 15:00 | Gadi r u there?
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| 15:01 | IRCzito, bgomez told me you have a ltsp running on slackware system, would you help me to get sound running on clients?
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| 15:03 | <IRCzito> dmorar: ltsp5?
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| 15:04 | <dmorar> IRCzito: no, 4.2
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| 15:07 | <IRCzito> dmorar: ok
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| 15:08 | <dmorar> IRCzito: thanks
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| 15:09 | <IRCzito> you have SOUND = Y in your lts.conf?
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| 15:09 | <dmorar> yes i do...
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| 15:10 | i also downloaded the alsa package and now i can see my sound card if i do lspci
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| 15:10 | the problem is with esd on the server side (i guess)
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| 15:10 | when i try to run sound it says that can't connecto to the server
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| 15:12 | <IRCzito> humm
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| 15:13 | <dmorar> have you done this on slack?
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| 15:14 | <IRCzito> Yes, but I am not on the server now
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| 15:15 | <dmorar> mmm
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| 15:15 | ok
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| 15:15 | <IRCzito> I remember that a time I had that to edit the archive /opt/ltsp-4.2/i386/etc/rc.sound
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| 15:16 | open this file
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| 15:16 | <dmorar> yeah, done that... the 1 & line?
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| 15:17 | <dmorar> /bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001 -public -as 1 & -> this line?
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| 15:17 | <IRCzito> yeah
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| 15:17 | /bin/esd -nobeeps -tcp -port 16001 -public -as 1 &
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| 15:17 | <dmorar> ok...
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| 15:21 | <IRCzito> I do not remember right what I made, I am looking at bash_history to see if I can help
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| 15:22 | I add . /etc/ltsp-sound.sh on the end of /etc/profile
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| 15:23 | you made this?
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| 15:24 | <dmorar> i have /etc/profile.d/ltsp-sound.sh , i think i might have a mistake on this shell tough
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| 15:24 | DOMAIN=`dnsdomainname`
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| 15:24 | MYNAME=`echo $DISPLAY | cut -d: -f1 | sed s/\\\.${DOMAIN}//`
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| 15:25 | <dmorar> what value should have DOMAIN?
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| 15:27 | <IRCzito> I'm on slow connection :(
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| 15:27 | DOMAIN=`dnsdomainname`
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| 15:27 | MYNAME=`echo $DISPLAY | cut -d: -f1 | sed s/\\\.${DOMAIN}//`
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| 15:28 | <dmorar> is `dnsdomainname` right?
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| 15:30 | <IRCzito> I did not need changes it to function the sound
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| 15:31 | <dmorar> ok
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| 15:31 | ok...
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| 15:31 | where i should look next?
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| 15:31 | maybe esd is not running, do you had to compile something on kernel, i dont know if i need to compile arts?
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| 15:32 | <IRCzito> I remember that I used some command to make the test in the terminal
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| 15:34 | <IRCzito> i don't know, the bgomes compile the kernel of this machine, i go see this under make menuconfig :D
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| 15:43 | <IRCzito> dmorar: you have any terminal which "SCREEN_0? = shell"?
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| 15:45 | <dmorar> yes
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| 15:45 | i do
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| 15:46 | <IRCzito> what it happens if to try: /bin/esdplay /etc/silent.wav on this shell
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| 15:46 | <dmorar> on screen_02?
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| 15:46 | <IRCzito> yes on shell of the terminal
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| 15:47 | <dmorar> cannot fin card '0'
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| 15:47 | so its something with the module?
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| 15:49 | <IRCzito> I do not know, what's the card?
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| 15:49 | <dmorar> intel ich4 ac '97
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| 15:50 | 82801db
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| 15:50 | <IRCzito> SMODULE_01= (module) tells which driver to use (if it's not auto-detected)
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| 15:50 | on lts.conf
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| 15:50 | <dmorar> ok, how do i know which dirver to use?
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| 15:51 | <IRCzito> I don't know, i go find on google :D
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| 15:51 | <dmorar> ok, lemme see
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| 15:54 | <mistik1> just enable a shell on your terminal and load different drivers
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| 15:55 | <dmorar> should i use " "
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| 15:55 | mistik1: using modprobe?
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| 15:56 | <IRCzito> dmorar: this is the card: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio ??
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| 15:56 | <dmorar> yes
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| 15:58 | <IRCzito> dmorar: try add SMODULE_01 = snd_intel8x0, and reboot the terminal
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| 15:58 | <dmorar> ok i loaded the driver using modprobe and snd-intel8x0, now when i do /bin/esdplay /etc/silent.wav i hear nothing...
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| 15:58 | and no message
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| 15:59 | <IRCzito> I think its work now
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| 16:00 | <dmorar> how can i check?
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| 16:03 | <IRCzito> try configure xmms to play music which esd server
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| 16:04 | or copy some file .wav to /opt/ltsp-4.2/ and try play it which '/bin/esdplay file.wav' on the shell of ther terminal
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| 16:06 | <dmorar> if i try to setup kde control center it states: cannot connect with the server...
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| 16:11 | <IRCzito> hummmm, i don't use kde... try it with xmms first just to see if it will work
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| 16:13 | <dmorar> nothing happens with esdplay
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| 16:13 | i don't have mms
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| 16:13 | xmms
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| 16:14 | <IRCzito> dmorar: I have go home now
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| 16:14 | <dmorar> ok, thanks IRCzito...
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| 16:14 | :(
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| 16:14 | <IRCzito> dmorar: I go back :D
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| 16:14 | <dmorar> :)
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| 16:14 | <IRCzito> wait
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| 16:14 | <dmorar> ok, thanks
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| 16:21 | <dmorar> Hi
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| 16:21 | IRCzito?
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| 16:24 | OK, XMMS HAS SOUND!!
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| 16:24 | but kde doesn't
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| 16:25 | <dmorar> hello, can anyone help me?, i can play files in xmms, but arts can't start esd
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| 16:28 | sound server fatal error: write failure
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| 16:29 | <bgomes> dmorar: He goes to home at this time
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| 16:29 | <dmorar> ohh ic
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| 16:29 | ok
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| 16:30 | <bgomes> dmorar: u sound is working in terminal (local)
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| 17:28 | <Cpoc> Hello
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| 17:29 | brb
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| 17:55 | <monteslu> any ever have ltspinfo hang upon starting a new konsole tab?
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| 18:22 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 18:22 | I'm trying to get audio working on my system
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| 18:22 | <mathesis> hi MrChicken
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| 18:23 | <MrChicken> when I boot I get the luscd loaded message
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| 18:23 | but inside X I cant get the sound to work :(
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| 18:23 | can anybody help me out please?
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| 18:34 | Anybody?
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| 18:34 | sorry wasnt lusc it was lbuscd
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| 18:34 | I see the drivers beeing loaded
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| 18:34 | I just cant get X to give me sound
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| 18:34 | (At all)
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| 18:38 | Hellooooo?
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| 18:38 | <bgomes> MrChicken: HELLO
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| 18:38 | MrChicken: w is u problem?
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| 18:49 | <MrChicken> bgomes cant get sound working under X
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| 18:50 | <IRCzito_home> somebody is using ltsp5 with local devices here? It wanted to take off doubts
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| 18:51 | MrChicken: the sound it's ok under shell of the clients?? Ex: SCREEN_0? = shell ???
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| 18:52 | <MrChicken> IRCzito ... Dunno, I know the sound module loads
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| 18:52 | cuz I see it detects it
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| 18:52 | how can I test command line sound?
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| 18:57 | lo?
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| 19:00 | <IRCzito_home> MrChicken: /bin/esdplay /etc/silent.wav
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| 19:00 | under shell of the terminal
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| 19:01 | <MrChicken> well it gives me no errors
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| 19:01 | no sound bt no error
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| 19:03 | IRCzito... there is this guy SH4[something] thats running ltsp5 with localdev... he's here usually in the moring
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| 19:03 | say 7 - 8 hours ago
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| 19:05 | <bgomes> MrChicken: do u have a /dev/dsp on terminal?
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| 19:07 | <MrChicken> no
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| 19:08 | <bgomes> MrChicken: the sound module automatic load, or u force to load on lts.conf ?
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| 19:08 | <MrChicken> auto
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| 19:08 | <IRCzito_home> /bin/esdplay /etc/silent.wav no errors?? I think thats all ok
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| 19:08 | <MrChicken> I just say SOUND = Y and SOUND_DAEMON = ess
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| 19:08 | esd sorry
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| 19:08 | esd
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| 19:08 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: but he dont have /dev/dsp, who is possible?
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| 19:09 | <IRCzito_home> copy other file .wav to /opt/lts-4.2 then try /bin/esdplay /etc/file.wav
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| 19:09 | <bgomes> MrChicken: what is your ltsp version?
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| 19:10 | MrChicken: and your linux dist ?
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| 19:10 | <IRCzito_home> maybe he have /dev/snd/dsp
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| 19:11 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: ele disse que não tem
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| 19:12 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: vou tomar um banho :D
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| 19:12 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: como tá o processo dos dispositivos locais ?
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| 19:12 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: no console do terminal funcionam :D
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| 19:12 | <bgomes> (21:01:59) bgomes: MrChicken: do u have a /dev/dsp on terminal?
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| 19:12 | (21:03:35) MrChicken: no
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| 19:13 | IRCzito_home: vc tem fuse, todas aquelas coisas?
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| 19:14 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: tb aquele script q tem q colocar no x para redirecionar as chamadas para o servidor
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| 19:15 | <IRCzito_home> tem fuse sim
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| 19:16 | acabei de instalar
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| 19:17 | Vou ali tomar um banho
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| 19:17 | :D
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| 20:55 | <IRCzito_home> jammcq: Can you help me? I try use cdrom, flopy and removable devices under ltsp5, the devices appear in /etc/fstab of th terminal, but not in the X
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| 21:10 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: I can use devices under ltsp5 which comand line: ltspfs ws008.ltsp:/tmp/drives $HOME/foo :D it's work :D
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| 21:13 | <IRCzito_home> how can I umont device in ltspfs??
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| 21:13 | somebody?
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| 21:14 | <vagrantc> eject it?
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| 21:15 | might also be able to use fusermount -u
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| 21:18 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: thanks :D
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| 21:31 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: u are here?
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| 21:31 | <IRCzito_home> yes
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| 21:32 | I can use de removable devices when I mount in the gnome-terminal :D
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| 21:32 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: How is the ltsp local device?
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| 21:33 | IRCzito_home: but dont auto mount?
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| 21:35 | <IRCzito_home> cdrom... flopy and my Kingston :D
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| 21:35 | yeah ... don't automont and don't show icon for devices
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| 21:36 | for test, I make dir and moutn device on this dir
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| 21:36 | <vagrantc> do the devices show up in /media/USER/* ?
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| 21:36 | what distro?
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| 21:37 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: Slackware11 + ubuntu_6.10_i386 root-tree
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| 21:37 | <vagrantc> have you build the ltspfs packages for slackware?
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| 21:37 | <IRCzito_home> yeah
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| 21:38 | <vagrantc> from which sources?
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| 21:38 | <IRCzito_home> i can mount the device wich ltspfs ws008.ltsp:/tmp/drives $HOME/foo
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| 21:38 | yes from the sources
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| 21:39 | <vagrantc> from which sources?
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| 21:40 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: I am reading about http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia for help u
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| 21:47 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: maybe I need lbus look this http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspFSAutomount
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| 21:49 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: did u need use fuse on ltsp-5?
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| 21:50 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: you know if necessary of lbus_event_handler.sh in ltsp5?
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| 21:51 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: this is very old "LtspFSAutomount"
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| 21:51 | <IRCzito_home> hummm
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| 21:52 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: I think dont is necessary
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| 21:52 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: from which sources did you compile ltspfs?
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| 21:52 | <IRCzito_home> yes
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| 21:53 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: do u insert in gdm all script post login?
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| 21:55 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: from cvs: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.ltsp.org:/usr/local/cvsroot checkout ltspfs
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| 21:55 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: you should probably grab the ltspfs sources from ubuntu if you're using an ubuntu ltsp5
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| 21:56 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: I do not make changes on gdm post login
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| 21:56 | but the ltsp5 do not use gdm
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| 21:56 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: why not?
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| 21:58 | <IRCzito_home> sorry
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| 21:58 | Im confused, not use XDMCP
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| 21:58 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: does the ltspfs working in ltsp-5 with samba?
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> bgomes: not at all.
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| 21:58 | <vagrantc> ltspfs is fuse based
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| 21:59 | <vagrantc> and the ubuntu/debian code currently only works with LDM for a display manager
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| 21:59 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: what is this in wiki "konqueror smb://`echo $DISPLAY | cut -f 1 -d ':'`/drives/floppy" ?
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| 21:59 | vagrantc:
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| 21:59 | <vagrantc> bgomes: that's for older versions of ltsp
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| 22:00 | <bgomes> vagrantc: the wiki need reorganize :D
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| 22:01 | <vagrantc> there are some growing pains while we transition to ltsp5
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| 22:01 | also, there is probably some redundant documentation on the wiki, only some of which gets updated.
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| 22:01 | i think with ltsp5, each distro will probably need to maintain it's own wiki pages.
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| 22:02 | <IRCzito_home> to fix this I can make bash under profile of the user to mount devices under terminal, but i think already exists some script to do this
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| 22:02 | <bgomes> av
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| 22:03 | <IRCzito_home> I want know which
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| 22:03 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: you should build ltspfs from the same sources that ltspfsd in the chroot are built from.
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| 22:03 | <bgomes> vagrantc: there are many diff of ltsp5 and olders version
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| 22:03 | <vagrantc> bgomes: yes. it is a different concept.
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| 22:04 | bgomes: it is the transition from "LTSP as another linux distribution" to "LTSP is a specification of features to be implemented within existing linux distributions"
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| 22:05 | <IRCzito_home> but I think this is not a problem, because I can mount manually
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| 22:06 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: but if you built it from the proper sources, it would happen automatically.
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| 22:06 | IRCzito_home: but if you would rather mount it manually, go ahead.
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| 22:06 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: look http://www.ubuntulinux.se/node/1496
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| 22:07 | <bgomes> where are the ltsp5 front page on the wiki?
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| 22:09 | <vagrantc> !ltsp5
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| 22:09 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "ltsp5" is ltsp5 is The next version of LTSP, and the future of Thin Client computing on GNU/Linux. http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5
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| 22:11 | <bgomes> this is it?
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> no, that's just one page.
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| 22:11 | there's also
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| 22:11 | !tarball
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| 22:11 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "tarball" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions
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| 22:11 | <vagrantc> !integration
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| 22:11 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "integration" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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| 22:12 | <vagrantc> there's only two existing implementations, as far as i know- ubuntu and debian
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| 22:12 | both of which are quite similar.
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| 22:14 | <bgomes> I am reading all
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| 22:18 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices I need enable the users to have access local devices
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| 22:18 | but where
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| 22:19 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: give them permission to read and write to /dev/fuse
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| 22:20 | IRCzito_home: on debian/ubunut, this is done by creating a group "fuse" and making /dev/fuse group fuse, with read-write permissions
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| 22:20 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: thanks
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| 22:20 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: very good this pages
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| 22:23 | IRCzito_home: does change permissiom solve the problem?
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| 22:26 | <IRCzito_home> wath permissiom?
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| 22:30 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: change permission from drive folder on server
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| 22:30 | IRCzito_home: when u mount form console, what user u do it?
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| 22:31 | <vagrantc> IRCzito_home: ls -l /dev/fuse
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| 22:31 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 22:32 | has anybody ever tried to boot ltsp from a VPN (IE OpenVPN)?
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| 22:33 | <IRCzito_home> vagrantc: on the server or on the shell of the terminal?
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| 22:33 | terry@dragon:~$ ls -l /dev/fuse
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| 22:33 | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 10, 229 2007-03-16 20:20 /dev/fuse
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| 22:33 | vagrantc: this is on the server
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| 22:34 | this not exist on the terminal
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| 22:34 | <vagrantc> yes.
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| 22:35 | so, you shouldn't have to add any users, as all users have read-write access to /dev/fuse
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| 22:56 | <IRCzito_home> bgomes: I go sleep tomorrow I continue
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| 23:03 | <bgomes> IRCzito_home: ok
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