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Channel log from 25 November 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 09:21 | <IliasPap> Καλημερα
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| 09:22 | <muppis> !greek
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| 09:22 | <ltsp`> greek: Στο παρόν κανάλι μιλάνε μόνο Αγγλικά, για υποστήριξη στα Ελληνικά από την υπηρεσία Τεχνικής Στήριξης ΣΕΠΕΗΥ διαβάστε το http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/IRC και στη συνέχεια πληκτρολογήστε /j #ts.sch.gr
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| 09:24 | <IliasPap> Can somebody explain to me what does PXE-EC8: !PXE structure was not found in UNDI driver code segment mean. It sudenly appeared to all clients and they won't boot
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| 10:16 | <elpap9> Καλημερα απο Χίο. Ενώ για 2 βδομάδες όλα δούλευαν κανονικά, απο χθές οι μισοι clients βγάζουν !PXE structure was not found in UNDI driver code segment και άλλοι NO MORE net work devices Disk boot failure
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| 12:05 | <minetreu> !futro
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| 12:05 | <ltsp`> I do not know about 'futro', but I do know about these similar topics: 'future'
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| 12:05 | <minetreu> cool
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| 12:06 | !future
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| 12:06 | <ltsp`> future: Some of the highlights include working towards obsoleting LDM (using libpam-sshauth/libnss-sshsock), moving stuff out of ltsp-build-client into initramfs run-time modifications, and making it possible to maintain the chroot from a booted environment
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| 12:06 | <minetreu> good to know
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| 12:08 | i cant bring up a good grafik on futro s450 machines, my ltsp-image is amd64 running on 14.04, any help in here?
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| 12:09 | after login, the display drivers fails (suspended monitor) completely
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| 13:26 | <minetreu> ahhh kernel-panic
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| 15:23 | <minetreu> jup
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| 15:30 | still stuck on a futro s450 thin configuration, screenresolution is not matching and after login the driver fails complete
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| 15:39 | <minetreu> problem for me is, i can not login, so i cant see xrandr outputs or anything else
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| 16:48 | <minetreu> no ideas about the s450 thin-client? i checked diff images, conf and xorgs... no success for me
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| 16:51 | <sbalneav> What video chipset does it have.
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| 16:56 | <minetreu> hi, radeon x1250
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| 16:56 | Unable to initialize GTK+ after login
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| 17:04 | my image is a amd64, server is ubuntu 14.04. various machines (mostly dell) running well
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| 17:07 | ' Failed to find output xrandr-VGA1 ' which is ok, while the screen (1920x1080) is connected to dvi, so how to tell xrandr to look for dvi
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| 17:11 | xrandr -q -display 192.168.3.80:7
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| 17:12 | <minetreu> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192 DVI-0 connected 1920x1080+640+0
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| 17:15 | LVDS connected primary 640x480+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 640x480 60.0*+
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| 17:16 | which, if i am interpreting correct, uses both the dvi and lvds output and therefore shakes an error
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| 18:36 | <minetreu> after several attempts with xrandr -output ... -display ...:7 i am halfway able to use a xsession with my thinclient futro s450
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| 18:40 | i found my solution here: https://github.com/gdi2k/mac2xrandr
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| 19:01 | but i guess there is a native way, too
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| 19:08 | how do you force evolution mail to shutdown after user logout, my clients stuck on the app without window manager...
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| 21:56 | <takeawillpill> Excuse me, but is there any fix or workaround for gallium? I've been having various opengl issues.
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| 22:36 | <talntid> if LTSP still maintained/improved?
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| 22:41 | <vagrantc> somewhat
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| 22:42 | talntid: it's mostly been in maintenance mode for the last couple years ... with some great ideas for improvements, but not much progress
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| 22:43 | it could sure use some additional energy, though...
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| 22:43 | <talntid> yeah, I'm just trying to decide if I should keep it on my call center revamp
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| 22:44 | I'm running 60 clients off LTSP, but they're complaining their computers are pretty slow now
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| 22:44 | so I'm going to revamp it by end of year - just deciding if I stay with LTSP
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| 22:44 | <vagrantc> thin or fat clients?
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| 22:45 | <talntid> they are thin clients, no hard drives, but they use their web browser as a localapp
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| 22:46 | the issue could be network congestion, IOPS, cpu/ram usage on the server, or any of a few other things...
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| 22:54 | <vagrantc> talntid: yeah, identifying exactly where the slowdown would be a good idea before going on to implement something new with the same problems... :)
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| 22:55 | <sandro_> Hi, I just run ltsp-update-image and I saw lots of messages statinga file could not be read. The puzzling thing is that are all file inthe server'home, not in the the clinent's chroot.
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| 22:57 | <vagrantc> sandro_: what was the exact commandline you used? is there an /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf, and if so what's in it?
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| 22:59 | <sandro_> the commadn line was: "/usr/sbin/ltsp-update-image -b /opt/ltsp/trusty", /opt/ltsp/trusty has a subdir i38 that hold a trusty client created with ltsp-build-client
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| 22:59 | the commadn line was: "/usr/sbin/ltsp-update-image -b /opt/ltsp/trusty", /opt/ltsp/trusty has a subdir i386 that hold a trusty client created with ltsp-build-client
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| 23:00 | currently it's running: "mksquashfs /opt/ltsp/trusty/i386 /opt/ltsp/trusty/images/i386.img.tmp -e cdrom"
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| 23:03 | I don't have any /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.conf
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| 23:05 | <sandro_> I'm runnung on ubuntu 12.04 ltsp-server 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.2
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| 23:05 | <vagrantc> i wouldn't recommend using the --base feature...
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| 23:06 | then you'll need to specify it for every single tool
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| 23:07 | better to use /opt/ltsp/i386-trusty or trusty-i386 than /opt/ltsp/trusty/i386 ... the tools don't support the --base feature reliably.
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| 23:11 | <sandro_> Well, in fact I did use -b opt when creating the image. Precisely I used
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| 23:11 | ltsp-build-client --config /etc/ltsp/ltsp-build-trusty.conf --dist trusty --fat-client-desktop ubuntu-desktop --chroot trusty-i386
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| 23:12 | no, not sure...
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| 23:12 | that's from the wrong terminal...
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| 23:13 | the right command in on the terminall that is busy.
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| 23:14 | I'm sure I used --dist trys and -b /opt/ltsp/trusty --fat-client-desktop ubuntu-desktop (not sure about the --config opt and the --chroot)
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| 23:15 | It as ltsp-build-client that added the i386 subdir
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| 23:16 | So, vagrantc, what is happening with the file that are in server's home? what do you suggest to do?
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| 23:19 | <vagrantc> i don't know, i was just trying to rule out if you were effectively doing "ltsp-update-image --cleanup /" or something.
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| 23:19 | it kind of sounds like that's what it's doing.
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| 23:20 | <sandro_> I never issued that command
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| 23:23 | By the way. I'm building a new image just out of despair. Up to yesterday I had a working system. 6 Fat clients with ltsp autentication.
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| 23:23 | After a power failure the server was up again but client only get to the ldm screen and don't authenticate any more.
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| 23:24 | The ldm debug writes:
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| 23:24 | nov 25 17:17:52: [ssh] INFO: calling rc.d pressh scripts nov 25 17:17:57: [ssh] CRITICAL: no response, restarting
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| 23:26 | But I can't understand what is not responding. Whe I try to authenticate the server logs (auth.log)
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| 23:26 | Connection closed by 192.168.1.40 [preauth]
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| 23:26 | <vagrantc> did the ip address of the server change?
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| 23:27 | <sandro_> no, not that I know, event thought I cant exclude that a second ip wasd also present on the server in the past (ldap was pointing there)
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| 23:27 | But the server workked with the present conf for months.
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| 23:27 | <talntid> vagrantc, yeah I plan to determine where the slowdown is, just making sure that if it comes to that, it is still a good option
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| 23:28 | instead of doing research during build-time
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| 23:29 | <sandro_> vagrant I also added LDM_SERVER=192.168.1.2 LDM_SSHOPTIONS="-o CheckHostIP=no" afetr reading some hint you wrote
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| 23:32 | If I issue ltsp-update-sshkeys, do I need to recreate the image via ltsp-update-image?
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| 23:32 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 23:33 | i can't ever remember if ltsp-update-image runs ltsp-update-sshkeys before generating the image...
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| 23:34 | <sandro_> ok, no problem... I can regenerate the image anyhow
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| 23:35 | the trusty image is building really slowly, i remember around 15 minute but now it seems much longer, do I remember correctly?
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| 23:35 | I gor 2 processor
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| 23:35 | I got 2 processor 2.4 GHz
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| 23:44 | <vagrantc> depends on a lot of factors
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| 23:50 | <sandro_> I'm rebuilding the old image and it gos at a reasonable speed, it's now 60% in less than 10 min.
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