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Channel log from 5 August 2011   (all times are UTC)

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08:09
<Hyperbyte>
John, buddy! :-)
08:09
<johnkershaw>
hi :)
08:09
<Hyperbyte>
How are you?
08:10
<johnkershaw>
good.
08:10
I'm planning to go into school in an hour or so - would you be 'around' to talk me through fixing the network?
08:10
<Hyperbyte>
I will!
08:11
I am at work though, will have things to do left and right.
08:11
<johnkershaw>
I understand :)
08:11
<Hyperbyte>
So don't panic if I'm not here immediately. :)
08:11
<johnkershaw>
at least I'll hear your responses now :)
08:11
<Hyperbyte>
Heh!
08:11
<johnkershaw>
does edubuntu have a text-to-speech IM client?
08:12
<Hyperbyte>
Google is your friend. :)
08:12
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1029385
08:12
First result
08:12
(I searched for 'Pidgin text to speech')
08:13
<johnkershaw>
so… 'no' then? without a bunch of work :(
08:13
I meant 'out of the box'
08:13
<Hyperbyte>
Pidgin is the default IM client nowadays I think, but not sure about Ubuntu.
08:13
<johnkershaw>
ubuntu has a shiny front end, but still too much end-user config methinks :(
08:14
<Hyperbyte>
I don't think what's there on the forum is difficult.
08:14
<johnkershaw>
hahahaha
08:14
<Hyperbyte>
But let's be realistic for a second.
08:14
<johnkershaw>
that's a bit like a brain surgeon commenting on a 'simple procedure'
08:14
<Hyperbyte>
Pidgin makes a sound when a message is received. That should be enough for the average end-user.
08:14
<johnkershaw>
not at all!
08:15
<Hyperbyte>
And the ones that are visually impaired and -need- text-to-speech, will never use a GUI over a terminal program.
08:15
<johnkershaw>
nothing to do with visual impairment
08:15
no more than having a conversation in real life is about hearing a 'ping' when the person has spoken, and you having to stop what you're doing, turn to them and 'read' what they've said
08:16
I'm currently writing an email about something else… but each time you 'speak' I hear in 'in the background', much like I would if you were in the room
08:16
it's a different paradigm
08:16
once you have it, going back to 'ping' feels like madness
08:16
<Hyperbyte>
You don't know me, I hate computerized voices. =D
08:17
But who says it's not possible man. How long have you been Googling on the subject? ;)
08:17
<johnkershaw>
not at all
08:17
<Hyperbyte>
Seems like there's a handy plugin for Pidgin too
08:17
<johnkershaw>
still requires a plugin
08:18
on my adium client I open preferences and tick a checkbox for 'Speak text of messages'
08:18
there is no step 3
08:18
<Hyperbyte>
gspeaker has plugins for telepathy, pidgin, kopete, amsn....
08:18
<johnkershaw>
no plugin, no script
08:18
tick the box
08:18
I'm just saying that, coming from the 'other' end of the world (Mac vs Linux)
08:19
the ubuntu guys are going round in circles trying to decide whether unity is good or bad
08:19
regards user experience
08:20
but they don't 'see' that what's 'normal' to them, in terms of setting up and configuring a machine, app, convo
08:20
is utter complicated madness to mac users (and probably win, for all I know)
08:21
a bit like an old car enthusiast who blithely waves his hand at the 'simple' startup routine he employs to get his 1907 BMW running
08:22
apple work ridiculously hard to make sure things 'seem' very simple
08:22
<Hyperbyte>
Calm down for a second.
08:22
<johnkershaw>
making complicated things straightforward is hard
08:22
lol - s'okay, I'm not ranting
08:22
<Hyperbyte>
There are different OS'es and different flavors of OS'es for this very reason.
08:22
One person prefers 'it just works', the other person prefers having lots of tools available for customization.
08:23
Did you play with LEGO when you were young? ;-)
08:23
<johnkershaw>
indeed - Linux always *was* the purview of gurus
08:23
and that's fine
08:23
but
08:23
linux is now *trying* to be a consumer OS
08:23
<Hyperbyte>
Well "Linux" is a quite general term.
08:23
<johnkershaw>
I'm just saying that their idea of 'consumer-friendly' is not what consumers might assume
08:24
<Hyperbyte>
You mean certain distributions are trying. There lots of Linux variants out there that don't aim for a consumer market at all.
08:24
<johnkershaw>
I'm happy that both ends of the spectrum exist
08:24
<Hyperbyte>
Me too. :)
08:24
<johnkershaw>
there *should* be tiny micro-linuxes that run on a peanut
08:24
;)
08:24
but at the 'consumer' end, it really does have to be no-brain-required
08:25
with the ability to 'open the hood' if you want to go complex
08:25
like, on my mac, I can open Terminal and 'fiddle about'
08:25
in the old Mac OS, that wasn't possible - the gui *was* the OS
08:25
but Mac OS is a monstrously friendly Unix
08:26
<Hyperbyte>
As interesting as I find it to discuss this with you
08:26
<johnkershaw>
sorry - you're busy
08:26
my bad :(
08:26
<Hyperbyte>
No
08:26
<johnkershaw>
signing off til I get to school :)
08:26
<Hyperbyte>
I meant more like... let's not do this in the channel. :-)
08:26
<johnkershaw>
aargh! reverse mistake from earlier!
08:27
<Hyperbyte>
You thought you were /msg'ing? :-D Well at least you didn't say something embarrassing.
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11:05
<johnkershaw>
hi - I'm now at school and am ready to have a crack at sorting out our fledgling LTSP network (with fat clients?)
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11:06
<johnkershaw>
due to not being able to get online with the LTSP machine handling DHCP, I've turned the mac server's DHCP service back on. Can I leave the mac in charge of dhcp and set up proxyDHCP on the LTSP machine to handle letting the clients know where to boot from? (NB I don't know anything about proxyDHCP other than the name!)
11:10
<Hyperbyte>
Heya.
11:11
You could use ProxyDHCP, but you could also just configure the Mac DHCP server to point to the LTSP server for netbooting
11:12
This page should help a little: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
11:17
<johnkershaw>
yeah, that was my original intention, but the Mac OS 10.4 server's DHCP management panel doesn't expose those kinds of settings:
11:17
http://web.me.com/jelockwood/MyUtilities/dhcp.html
11:17
apparently 10.5 does... but that's £400 I'm not likely to spend any time soon
11:18
can the settings be changed in terminal?
11:18
presumably the DHCP front-end is literally just a front-end?
11:18
I'll google 'dhcp mac server 10.4 option codes'
11:20
<Hyperbyte>
I know -nothing- about Mac. :)
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11:23
<Hyperbyte>
If you don't get it working, here's an LTSP ProxyDHCP setup page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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11:29
<johnkershaw>
hmm - seems that 10.4 server won't apply/use the DHCP options even if I can write them into the config file.
11:29
<Hyperbyte>
This is Mac you're talking about now, right?
11:29
<johnkershaw>
so... proxyDHCP on the master? if I've got edubuntu 11.04, do I have this dnsmasq thing?
11:30
<Hyperbyte>
Read the wiki page please. :)
11:30
It's all there.
11:30
<johnkershaw>
(I have a Mac server giving out IP addresses to everyone, including the linux machines. I'd like (I think) the LTSP server to THEN handle the DHCP options side of things)
11:31
I read the wiki page, as much as I could understand. what's a karmic?
11:31
<Hyperbyte>
To be super helpful and answer your question anyways, even though it's written down on the Wiki, yes, Ubuntu 11.04 comes with dnsmasq
11:31
Google for 'Ubuntu Karmic' brings this
11:31
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
11:31
:)
11:32
(I'm trying to get you a bit into the 'do it yourself'-Linux spirit here ;))
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11:38
<johnkershaw>
okay, I'll do my best. on the ltsp machine I've opened a terminal (ctrl-alt-T) and typed
11:38
gksudo gedit /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp.conf
11:39
<Hyperbyte>
You could do it the other way around as well by the way... brainwave I just had
11:39
<johnkershaw>
then pasted from the wiki page into the file. anything I need to change in there before I save?
11:39
<Hyperbyte>
Ditch the Mac DHCP server and run it on Linux.
11:40
Doesn't look like it
11:40
<johnkershaw>
I thought about that too, but the mac server is safe and sound in a wall-mounted rack in my room, whilst the ltsp server will be at the mercy of a room of 7/8 year olds (shudder)
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11:44
<johnkershaw>
folder /etc/dnsmasq.d doesn't exist - create it?
11:45
<markit>
hi johnkershaw
11:46
is not needed for dnsmasq, /etc/dnsmasq.conf is the only one needed
11:46
the dir is for additional config files, AFAIK
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12:02
<johnkershaw>
In the Connections/Ethernet menu item, what does 'Device not managed' mean? I've got 2 NIC ports on the back of this machine, the built-in port was taped up when I got it, and there's a second 3com card but that's the one that says 'Not managed'. If I connect the built-in port I get internet, but it's flaky & slow. If I connect the 'Not managed' port I get nothing.
12:05
<Hyperbyte>
johnkershaw, 'Not managed' means the port isn't managed by network-manager.
12:05
Basically, there are two ways of configuring network... basic is via /etc/network/interfaces (do a gedit on that file to see)
12:05
But you can also remove the eth0/eth1 lines from there, and restart your system... that disables the basic configuration, and NetworkManager will take the interface under it's management.
12:06
If you then go to Connections/Ethernet you can manage it there.
12:06
It's either one of those though, one or the other. 'Not managed' simply means it's not network manager's interface.
12:06
<johnkershaw>
ah! so if I remove all that stuff we put in the other day (auto eth0... & auto eth0:1... we might be back in business?
12:06
<Hyperbyte>
Dunno.
12:07
Start by commenting it
12:07
<johnkershaw>
can I comment the lines out with #'s ?
12:07
<Hyperbyte>
Put a # in frotn
12:07
*front
12:07
And then reboot, then you can configure all interfaces via NetworkManager... might be easiest for you.
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12:08
<Hyperbyte>
I learned all this only yesterday by the way, thanks to the benevolent alkisg. :)
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12:14
<johnkershaw>
okay - we're getting further! now the clients EITHER drop into the busybox shell or stick at the edubuntu splash screen
12:15
<Hyperbyte>
So you got DHCP proxy working and your network as well? :)
12:15
<johnkershaw>
I *think* so - I have 3 machines sporting correct IP addresses
12:16
how do I know if the proxydhcp options have 'taken' ?
12:16
<Hyperbyte>
If it does a network boot they have taken, trust me.
12:16
<johnkershaw>
(other than they'd boot up!)
12:16
<Hyperbyte>
And the server? Can it access the internet and such?
12:17
<johnkershaw>
righto - how do I check whether the 'master' is listening for clients?
12:18
since they all say "failed to connect to 192.168.0.132' (which ifconfig tells me IS the ltsp machine)
12:18
* 192.168.0.132:2000
12:18
<Hyperbyte>
Your LTSP machine gets it's IP via DHCP?
12:19
You have two options.
12:19
<johnkershaw>
yes
12:19
<Hyperbyte>
1. Set the LTSP server address statically on the server
12:19
<johnkershaw>
(is it important that 2 have the splash screen and 3 have gone into busybox?)
12:19
<Hyperbyte>
2. Configure the Mac DHCP server to give the same IP to the server everytime.
12:19
It's IP must -never- change.
12:19
<johnkershaw>
I can do 1 or 2 no problem
12:20
<Hyperbyte>
Not yet, we'll get to that later.
12:20
:)
12:20
Stick with DHCP then, it'll configure stuff automatically
12:20
Like nameservers and such. Set a static IP for the server in your Mac DHCP server.
12:25
<johnkershaw>
kk - I've set the LTSP's MAC address to get 192.168.0.130 and ifconfig reports it's worked
12:27
<Hyperbyte>
Did you already build a client chroot?
12:27
<johnkershaw>
the clients pick up the server, but can't get an NBD from it?
12:27
I don't recall doing that ;)
12:28
chroot is something to do with chmod, right?
12:28
<Hyperbyte>
Do ls /opt/ltsp/i386/
12:28
Is there a filesystem there?
12:28
<johnkershaw>
on client or server?
12:28
<Hyperbyte>
No - chroot has nothing to do with chmod.
12:28
Server.
12:29
<johnkershaw>
ls /opt/ltsp/i386 returns a bunch of directories (bin, dev, home, media, opt, root, sleinux, sys, usr, boot, etc, lib, mnt, proc, sbin, , srv, tmp, var)
12:29
<Hyperbyte>
Okay
12:29
!sshkeys | echo johnkershaw
12:29
<ltsp>
johnkershaw sshkeys: If you changed your LTSP server IP on Ubuntu, your clients will be unable to login. To fix this, you need to run: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image.
12:30
<johnkershaw>
4%
12:30
12%
12:31
26%
12:31
69%
12:31
done
12:31
reboot client?
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12:33
<Hyperbyte>
Probably didn't solve your current problem, but yes, reboot a client.
12:33
<johnkershaw>
failed to connect to ...0.130:2000
12:33
<Hyperbyte>
Okay
12:33
<johnkershaw>
(I'm saving this convo for later, btw)
12:34
<Hyperbyte>
johnkershaw, so does http://irclogs.ltsp.org/
12:34
Port 2000 is what NBD runs on (network block device)... it's the networked filesystem for the clients, which you just saw in /opt/ltsp/i386/
12:34
<johnkershaw>
awesome! I'm saving that link then ;)
12:35
<Hyperbyte>
See if you can connect to NBD locally on the server, type 'telnet localhost 2000'. If it doesn't timeout, use ctrl+] and 'quit' to leave telnet
12:35
<johnkershaw>
so the server HAS it, but it's not giving it to the clients?
12:35
refused
12:35
<Hyperbyte>
Okay, then the problem lies in NBD.
12:36
!pastebin | echo johnkershaw
12:36
<ltsp>
johnkershaw pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here..
12:36
<Hyperbyte>
Put your /etc/inetd.conf there.
12:40
If you need help doing this, say so.
12:41
<johnkershaw>
I've lost internet on the server again :(
12:41
<Hyperbyte>
Okay
12:42
Do you have a USB stick?
12:42
<johnkershaw>
I can ping the mac server and the gateway, but not google.com
12:42
<Hyperbyte>
Oh
12:42
So you could send the file via network to some computer and put it on pastebin?
12:43
Because apart from 'cat /etc/inetd.conf', I'll want the output of 'ifconfig' and 'ip route show'
12:43
You can put all these in one paste.
12:43
Run those commands in a terminal, select what you wanna copy, and then press middle mouse button in a text editor
12:43
<johnkershaw>
I'll try usb
12:44
<Hyperbyte>
It'll paste them. From there you can save the file on your network or USB stick, and upload it.
12:45
<johnkershaw>
what's the filepath to my usb stick from terminal?
12:45
got it
12:46
/ media
12:46
<Hyperbyte>
:)
12:47
By the way, you are aware of the current LTSP support conditions, right?
12:48
They should've handed you a copy of those to sign when you joined this channel.
12:49
<johnkershaw>
erm, no?
12:50
<Hyperbyte>
No?
12:50
It's a very long and tedious legal document, but basically says that you're only elligible for LTSP support if you stick around in the channel afterwards and help others.
12:50* Hyperbyte coughs. :)
12:52
<johnkershaw>
http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=KReg6EwL
12:53
<Hyperbyte>
Did you modify anything inside /opt/ltsp/i386/?
12:53
<johnkershaw>
I'm pretty good with helping ppl - but it'd be nice to know something!
12:54
don't think so
12:54
<Hyperbyte>
Well that's what we're working on here! ;-) Plus I've found that sticking around here is a great way to pick up lots of useful knowledge. :)
12:54
Okay...
12:55
2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
12:55
Add that line to /etc/inetd.conf
12:55
Dunno why it isn't there.
12:55
Maybe run
12:55
ltsp-build-client --arch i386 first
12:55
That rebuilds the entire LTSP clients
12:55
-s
12:55
Might be a good idea, it should automatically do the inetd.conf stuff for you
12:56
You'll have to rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386/ first, by the way
12:56
(that deletes the entire directory)
12:57
<johnkershaw>
maybe enough for today - wife and child have arrived and they want lunch :(
12:57
I'll pick up when I get back from holiday
12:58
<Hyperbyte>
When is that? :)
12:58
<johnkershaw>
17th
12:58
<Hyperbyte>
Wow.
12:58
Where are you going?
12:58
<johnkershaw>
somerset
12:58
south west of england
12:58
camping
12:59
<Hyperbyte>
Ah, you're British. Nice. :)
12:59
Not that far from where I am then. Only a sea in between. And no, I'm not Irish.
12:59
<johnkershaw>
french?
12:59
<Hyperbyte>
Higher.
12:59
Well, 'norther'. ;-)
13:00
<johnkershaw>
scottish?
13:00
<Hyperbyte>
Noonono.
13:00
<johnkershaw>
norwegian?
13:00
<Hyperbyte>
Lower!
13:00
lol
13:00
I'm Dutch.
13:00
<johnkershaw>
aha
13:00
we have links with a school in holland
13:00
appeldorn?
13:00
<Hyperbyte>
Apeldoorn. :)
13:00
<johnkershaw>
that too :)
13:00
<Hyperbyte>
Heheh.
13:01
<- Rotterdam
13:01
<johnkershaw>
seems it's not picking up DNS. should've picked up OpenDNS from the router...
13:01
ah well. another time. thanks for your help
13:01
and I will reciprocate (if I can find someone who knows less than me!)
13:01
<Hyperbyte>
That's in /etc/resolv.conf. NetworkManager should've done taht for you.
13:01
Heheh
13:02
Sure... see you after your holidays. :)
13:02
Enjoy yourself.
13:04
<johnkershaw>
(hardcoded dhcp & dns settings into auto ethernet and it's back online!)
13:06
<Hyperbyte>
I think after you do an ltsp-build-client --arch i386, it'll just work.
13:10
<johnkershaw>
okay - trying the rebuild!
13:13
(using last sliver of wifely patience!)
13:15
will I still need to add the 2000 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
13:15
or will the rebuild take care of that?
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<Hyperbyte>
It should I think. Not sure.
13:18
See afterwards.
13:18
If it took care of it, great. If not, add it.
13:19
<johnkershaw>
does the line start at '2000...' ?
13:21
<Hyperbyte>
Yes. There should be a 2001 line as well
13:22
There isn't... weird... I wonder what makes the inetd.conf file
13:22
Either way.
13:22
No, wait - now I'm confused. You don't need a 2001 line. Just put the 2000 line there on the bottom, if it isn't there yet... that should be it.
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<johnkershaw>
build finished - line 2000 is there
13:25
yay
13:25
it works
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at least, yay-ish
13:26
the client boots to a default ltsp login screen, not edubuntu
13:26
but presumably that's no big deal to sort (when I get back from hols, if I'm not divorced!)
13:26
thanks for everything :)
13:27
<Hyperbyte>
No!
13:27
LTSP login screen is what you want, not Ubuntu login screen.
13:27
<johnkershaw>
oh. then I have what I want!
13:27
<Hyperbyte>
By the way, the ltsp-build-client --i386 only built a thin client now, not a fat client. I forgot you were running fat clients. But we can sort that out later.
13:28
<johnkershaw>
it's booted into 'ladybird' screen now, using my 'tech' login
13:28
right - better go.
13:28
<Hyperbyte>
Go! :)
13:28
Give your wife a hug from me.
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<pedronveloso>
does LTSP support playing music cds ?
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normal cds mount well, music cds do appear in gnome, but no application seems to be able to recognize them as music cds
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<Hyperbyte>
pedronveloso, LTSP uses ltspfs for mounting filesystems on the client (such as USB disks, CD-ROMs etc)
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Basically it translates local filesystems over network. I think there's a good chance it's not compatible with music CD's, but someone will smythe me down and correct me if that's the case.
15:29
I *think* (and I emphasize *think* here because I'm just theorizing, never tried any of this)... but I think it might work with localapps.
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<pedronveloso>
humm.. localapps.. hate setting them :P
15:29
hehe
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<Hyperbyte>
If you install a CD player as localapp in the chroot, and then run it with ltsp-localapps <program> it might work.
15:29
pedronveloso, why?
15:29
<pedronveloso>
burning cds doesnt seem to work either :\
15:30
well, localapps seem to fail to load sometimes. at least Firefox does, don't know the cause exactly as the problem seems arbitrary
15:31
well, thanks for the info. I've search on google and came across the same information on an old post, I came here because I wondered if it was solved already or if a workaround existed
15:31
I'll try localapps as a soltution
15:31
thanks for help Hyperbyte
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<alkisg>
!seen vagrantc
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<ltsp>
alkisg: vagrantc was last seen in #ltsp 5 days, 6 hours, 12 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: * vagrantc waves
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<alkisg>
stgraber: about nbd swap, when is the deadline for 11.10? E.g. if I commited something until 20 Aug, would it make it for oneiric?
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<markit>
hi alkisg :) not ltsp related, but I'm so depressed... kubuntu 11.04, dvi-vga adapter, after grub menu screeb becomes black and never comes back. Ssh in it shows is alive, not got useful info from X.log. If I use dvi directly works. Of course, ActiveBoard has only VGA
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<Hyperbyte>
DVI-VGA adapters are nothing but trouble.
16:35
<markit>
any idea? Just a shot in the dark is fine too... Intel Intel GMA X4500
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Hyperbyte: kubuntu 10.10 on same hardware and adapter worked fine
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but I have to use 11.04 since some packages are only for that version
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if I boot from livecd it works, even if at 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024
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<alkisg>
And when did it stop working? Right after the initial installation?
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Or you tried changing stuff, e.g. putting vga=xx in grub or other experiments?
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<markit>
alkisg: well, is 2 days I'm fighting, I don't even remember... probably never, I installed with "get updated package" flag
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<markit>
but since it does not have openssh-server, probably worked until I did a "full-upgrade"
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I have not modified grub, I tried to remove -video-intel package but does not use framebuffer
16:40
ksm disturbs vesa drivers
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and I'm not an expert of X, ksm, etc stuff
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<alkisg>
If the live cd worked, I wonder why it broke on upgrade
16:41
Anyway time to go - bb all
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<markit>
wondering if a hdmi to vga adapter exists
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<Hyperbyte>
I think so
16:42
I think it'll give the same problem.
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I'm no expert, least of all with this, but I think the DVI adapter confuses Linux with the modes it can set for the monitor.
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<markit>
so I could put a xorg.conf with the right settings?
16:46
well, I've no idea of the parameters I could put there
16:47
would be nice being able to boot with dvi, have a command that dumps the current config and use it with vga
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to be sincere is not completery black
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I've a 3 cm line of blue pixels on the topper left
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top left :)
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I've to run now, see you later, I'm so depressed... wasting a lot of time, and not sure to be able to make it work
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what a shame :(
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<abeehc>
hdmi to vga is not a passive adapter and in my experience can't do widescreen res
16:51
it's not ideal
16:51
hdmi to dvi is good, i think you need dual link dvi though
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<Hyperbyte>
Personally, I think you're better off buying a screen with the right connectors. :)
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But that might be rubbing salt in it, sorry.
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<abeehc>
i think converting hdmi bumps into lame hdcp stuff and really lame protection like that i'd avoid entirely if possible
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that's not coherent .. need more coffee
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<Guest97523>
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<Damianos>
just out of curiosity, when manually installing LTSP onto a system, how does ltsp know where to get the OS files from when using the --dist option?
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<dave429>
when running ltsp-build-client I get that libpopt0 is corrupted on one server. The other servers do not get this error. Very confused. I am behind a proxy.
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<knipwim>
Damianos: is --dist only used in Ubuntu and Debian?
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<Damianos>
Might be - I saw it on the ubuntuLTSP wiki
17:47
I'm checking out a new ubuntu variant called elementaryOS. nice UI and really light weight. Thought it might be perfect for thin clients
17:48
so I'm testing it out on a VM right now and I can't log in. Had some hiccups with the ltsp-build-client phase
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<knipwim>
Damianos: i see the $DIST option being called in the Ubuntu 010-debootstrap plugin
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used as an argument for the debootstrap command
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so probably the debootstrap command figures it out
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<Damianos>
ok great
17:50
thanks:)
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<knipwim>
i'm wondering why the 001-set-dist plugin is in common and not just in Ubuntu, Debian and Altlinux
18:50
it appears to be distro specific
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and moved there in a time when Debian and Ubuntu were the only distros
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<abeehc>
quit
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fhcsmfrkg
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<Hyperbyte>
akljlasjfowef
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<nubae>
yo Hyperbyte
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<Hyperbyte>
Hey!
23:08
Just off to bed... g'night. :)
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