IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 25 May 2011 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:17 | <Hyperbyte> dubkat, you're welcome and good morning. :-)
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| 00:17 | You're right though, one shouldn't touch servers as root when they're not fully awake. :P
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| 00:18 | <Hyperbyte> I am pleased to say though that I solved the monitor problem. :)
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| 00:19 | Kinda sucks that I solved it with a dirty hack, just as the great guys at DisklessWorkstations sent me a little patch for my client chroot to overcome the problem properly, but at least it's fixed. :)
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| 00:19 | But at least it works, yay!
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| 02:51 | <Hyperbyte> Is there any possible way, workaround, hack, so that I can update the NBD image without screwing the clients that are logged in?
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| 02:52 | I'm not even looking for a way to get the changes in effect, because I realize that'd be quite impossible, just would be nice if the logged in clients would continue in the old image and all new logins would continue in my updated image
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| 02:52 | <muppis> nbd proxy
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| 02:53 | <Hyperbyte> Could you elaborate? :)
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| 02:53 | <muppis> Which distro you are using?
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| 02:53 | <Hyperbyte> Edubuntu 11.04
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| 02:55 | <muppis> Afaik it should be enabled by default.
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| 03:04 | <muppis> alkisg, is nbd proxy enabled in Edubuntu?
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| 03:04 | <alkisg> muppis: nbd-proxy had problems and afaik in 11.04 it was disabled, to be re-enabled if it's fixed in the future
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| 03:04 | I always have it disabled so I don't know the details
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| 03:05 | Hyperbyte: that should work automatically, no need to do anything
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| 03:05 | If you run ltsp-update-image, it deletes the old image and creates the new one. In Linux, deleted files that are in use don't get deleted until the last "user" closes the file handle
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| 03:08 | So what you said happens automatically, when you reboot the clients: "would be nice if the logged in clients would continue in the old image and all new logins (==>reboot here) would continue in my updated image"
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| 03:13 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, actually, when I rebuild the image clients start to complain about not finding correct sectors for files
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| 03:14 | I guess it caches the file allocation table, but not the actual files... so it can't find the files in the destination it expects them.
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| 03:14 | *sectors
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| 03:15 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: nope, something goes wrong then, that's not the expected behavior
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| 03:15 | E.g. if you just rm the image, you should be able to keep working until the clients reboot
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| 03:16 | (unless nbd was broken specifically in 11.04...)
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| 03:16 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, users can keep working yeah, everything stays running
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| 03:16 | But if I shutdown the client it says it can't find the shutdown command. :)
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| 03:17 | <alkisg> It shouldn't say that
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| 03:22 | <Hyperbyte> I continued 'till 3 by the way... heh
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| 03:22 | * Hyperbyte smacks ltsplogbot :D | |
| 03:23 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, I got a script from DisklessWorkstations that fixed the display problem for me
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| 03:23 | Although you probably read that in the logs. Turns out there's a laptop display connector on the videocard, which got enabled by default... causing dual screen to turn into triple screen, which doesn't work
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| 03:24 | And single screen to turn into dual screen with one invisible screen
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| 03:24 | <alkisg> Ah that caused the chaos. So they're just using xrandr to disable LVDS1 ?
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| 03:25 | Or some xorg option?
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| 03:42 | <Hyperbyte> alkisg, not sure, I haven't taken a good look at the shell script yet
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| 03:42 | I devised my own solution, because I eventually figured it out as well, just a little before they mailed me the script
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| 03:43 | I made an LDM startup script that does xrandr --output LVDS1 --off xrandr --output VGA1 --auto xrandr --output DVI1 --auto
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| 03:43 | Couldn't get it working from lts.conf and didn't feel like investigating last night. :)
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| 03:46 | <alkisg> OK so just an lts.conf entry should suffice for similar cases
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| 03:50 | <alkisg> XRANDR_OUTPUT_0="LVDS1 --off"
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| 03:50 | XRANDR_OUTPUT_1="VGA1 --auto"
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| 03:50 | XRANDR_OUTPUT_2="DVI1 --auto"
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| 03:54 | <Hyperbyte> Hrm, the DLWS patch seems to create some xorg config hack
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| 03:54 | http://secondary.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/1720_fix.sh.txt
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| 04:00 | <Hyperbyte> Also, to their credit, none of the XRANDR options in lts.conf seem to have the desired effect
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| 04:00 | When I created /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/xinitrc.d/I99-xrandr and put the xrandr commands in there manually it worked fine
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| 04:01 | But from lts.conf, no cake. Just tested it now, doesn't work.
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| 04:33 | <andygraybeal> good morrrnigning!!
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| 04:47 | <Hyperbyte> And what a good morning it is, andygraybeal!
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| 05:06 | <mgariepy> good morning everyone
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| 05:12 | <Hyperbyte> Good morning mgariepy! :)
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| 05:14 | <mgariepy> how do you do ?
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| 05:58 | <Hyperbyte> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients
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| 05:58 | This one doesn't work for me. I tried the safer & more secure way, but it complains that it cannot open display.
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| 05:58 | I've changed :6 to :7, since lts.conf has SCREEN_07=ldm
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| 06:03 | <Hyperbyte> mgariepy, doing fine by the way. :) Missed your message.
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| 06:09 | <Hyperbyte> Looks a bit like it's a problem originating from the point where it's started
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| 06:09 | * Hyperbyte moves the x11vnc start code to an LDM startup script | |
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| 06:11 | <mgariepy> Hyperbyte, you need to have XAUTHORITY env.
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| 06:12 | <mgariepy> here is how i start it:DISPLAY=:7 XAUTHORITY=$(ls -1 /var/run/ldm-xauth-*/Xauthority) x11vnc -rfbport 9000
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| 06:16 | <Hyperbyte> mhm
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| 06:16 | Maybe this should be on the wiki. :)
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| 06:16 | Although I've now done it as a startup script in /usr/share/ldm/rc.d/
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| 06:16 | It should have all those things there.
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| 06:18 | Then again maybe it doesn't. :|
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| 06:20 | Okay, I added the DISPLAY= and XAUTHORITY= lines to /etc/init.d/x11vnc
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| 06:21 | What are the chances this gets executed long before LDM and won't work?
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| 06:21 | <mgariepy> i usually starts it by hand
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| 06:21 | why aren't you using italc instead ?
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| 06:21 | <Hyperbyte> italc?
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| 06:21 | What's that?
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| 06:22 | <mgariepy> http://italc.sourceforge.net/
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| 06:22 | <Hyperbyte> And why is this better for me than x11vnc?
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| 06:23 | <mgariepy> it uses vnc too but with keys so it's secure (if your keys have good permission) and it starts automaticly on LTSP if you set START_ITALC=true
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| 06:25 | <Hyperbyte> But this seems a bit overkill
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| 06:25 | All I wanna do is take over one screen for a little while. :\
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| 06:31 | Even started with your xauthority line from an ldm startup script it won't work though.
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| 06:34 | <mgariepy> can you start it by hand?
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| 06:36 | <Hyperbyte> Only after logging in, via a local xterm
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| 06:37 | <mgariepy> do you have an error messagE?
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| 06:37 | <Hyperbyte> Cannot open display
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| 06:42 | Hrm... now it worked somehow
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| 06:42 | It actually started x11vnc twice... curious how it managed that, but alas. I can continue. :)
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| 06:47 | <mgariepy> haha :)
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| 08:01 | <Freewillie_> I get the message when i try to loggin a thinclient: response from server, restart. What causes this 'error'?
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| 08:03 | <Freewillie> knipwim: Do you know something about the message: response from server, restarting?
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| 08:07 | <alkisg> Freewillie: try running ltsp-update-sshkeys, and if you're using nbd, also ltsp-update-image
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| 08:07 | <Freewillie> alkisg: i ll try
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| 08:07 | alkisg: what is nbd?
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> Which distro/version are you using?
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| 08:08 | <Freewillie> alkisg: Xubuntu 11.04 with LTSP 5 I believe
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| 08:08 | <alkisg> Then you're using nbd, so run: sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys && sudo ltsp-update-image
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| 08:09 | <Freewillie> ok
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| 08:10 | alkisg: Also my internet connection drops when i connect a thin client, has it something to do with the message?
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> Hmmm no, but it might mean that your network setup is broken
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| 08:11 | Describe your network setup, how many nics, where is the dhcp server etc etc
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| 08:12 | <Freewillie> alkisg: The message stays:(
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> Freewillie: get a root shell on the client, like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN
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| 08:13 | When you get the shell, run: ssh user@server
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| 08:13 | Replace "user" with an existing username, but leave "server" exactly as it is, don't replace it
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| 08:13 | And see if you get any warnings
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| 08:14 | <Freewillie> alkisg: 2 nics one on the internet the other one on the thinclient network
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| 08:14 | alkisg: dhcp is on the same machine as the ltsp server
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| 08:15 | <Freewillie> alkisg: There is in the internet network an other dhcp
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| 08:15 | <alkisg> If you have configured your dhcpd.conf properly in the ltsp server, then your setup sounds OK, it shouldn't affect your internet connectivity when a client boots
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| 08:19 | <Freewillie> alkisg: When i created lts.conf do i need to do updat-image again?
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> No, if you put it in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 08:19 | <Freewillie> then there is something wron because i cannot see any terminal
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| 08:20 | when i press: Alt + F2 or any other
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| 08:20 | <alkisg> Alt+Ctrl+F2
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| 08:20 | Not just alt
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| 08:34 | <Freewillie> alkisg: I am back, it is very strange but if i login via the commandline and then login in the gui it works
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| 08:35 | alkisg: But i cannot login without loggin in via ssh from the commandline, do you know a solution?
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| 08:37 | alkisg: Thanks for the help so far, I unfortunatly have to go, so bye
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| 10:26 | <Gnoze5> Hi
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| 10:27 | out of all the distros and versions which would be considered the most stable?
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| 10:27 | <Gnoze5> for ltsp..
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| 10:28 | <roasted> hello hellooo
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| 10:28 | <Ahmuck-Sr> Gnoze5: that's a bit of a loaded question. Suse has it's own implementation of LTSP that works quite well however.
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| 10:28 | <roasted> is suse still around?
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| 10:29 | <highvoltage> I haven't seen her in a while
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| 10:29 | <Gnoze5> lol
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| 10:29 | you mean kiwi-ltsp?
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| 10:29 | <Ahmuck-Sr> yes. granted this was a year or two ago
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| 10:30 | another distro that used to have something similar was pardus
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| 10:30 | openSUSE
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| 10:30 | <Gnoze5> hm
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| 10:31 | i tsted with ubuntu
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| 10:31 | seembed quite good
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| 10:31 | im just having issues with acceleration
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| 10:32 | i castn get it to work
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| 10:32 | lol
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| 10:32 | <mgariepy> Gnoze5, you are using natty ?
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| 10:33 | <Ahmuck-Sr> what type of acceleration?
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| 10:33 | <Gnoze5> using 10.10
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| 10:33 | 2d accel
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| 10:33 | for video playback
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| 10:34 | <Gnoze5> or even just to solve the whole scroll drag annoyance
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| 10:35 | to convince people to implement this..
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| 10:39 | <Gnoze5> hm g2g
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| 11:08 | <Gnoze5> back :)
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| 11:13 | <alkisg> Gnoze5: what does xvinfo tell you, if you run it from an ltsp client?
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| 11:24 | <bieb> anyone here using likewise?
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| 12:23 | <tastle73> I have a workstation with LTSP5 on ubuntu 10.04 that I seem to have to wait 2-3 minutes until it will allow anybody other than root to login
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| 12:26 | <alkisg> root normally can't login on ubuntu, did you specifically change that or something is broken in your setup?
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| 12:27 | <Gnoze5> alkisg sorry im cooking dinner for the wife and all
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| 12:28 | <alkisg> Gnoze5: no worries it's IRC... e.g. I had to put the kids to bed :D
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| 12:28 | <tastle73> yes, I've enabled root
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| 12:28 | <alkisg> tastle73: how?
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| 12:29 | On the server, and on ssh?
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| 12:29 | <tastle73> sudo passwd root
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| 12:29 | <tastle73> yes and yes
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| 12:35 | <Gnoze5> pedronveloso
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| 12:35 | yo
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| 12:36 | alkisg pedronveloso is in front of one of our test clients
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| 12:36 | pedronveloso run xvinfo on the client please
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| 12:36 | <alkisg> pedronveloso: open a terminal, run: xvinfo, and then put the output to this site: http://pastebin.com
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| 12:36 | <pedronveloso> on the ltsp server, or on an actual client?
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| 12:36 | <alkisg> While logged in on an actual client
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| 12:37 | <pedronveloso> ok, I just booted the serve, let me boot a client then
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| 12:37 | <Gnoze5> pedronveloso hurry your ass the man is giving us free help...
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| 12:37 | :P
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| 12:38 | <alkisg> Haha #ltsp is very friendly, no need to rush
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| 12:38 | <highvoltage> heh
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| 12:39 | <pedronveloso> it's a huge output.. something you want me to grep?
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> If it's a huge output, then xv is supported
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| 12:40 | So you do have xv acceleration
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| 12:40 | <pedronveloso> adaptor : "XV_SMOV"
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| 12:40 | <alkisg> Do you have LDM_DIRECTX=True or False?
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| 12:41 | <pedronveloso> I don't even have that line. but DirectX, isn't that a M$ thing?
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| 12:41 | <alkisg> No, it's a method to make screen updates to go faster on ltsp clients, at a *security* cost
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| 12:42 | I.e. the X traffic will travel unencrypted on the network - now it's encrypted, and that makes it much slower
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| 12:42 | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf ==> see LDM_DIRECTX there
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| 12:42 | <pedronveloso> ok. well, the line isn't here. also, might be interesting, this line exists "operations supported: PutImage"
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| 12:43 | <alkisg> LDM_DIRECTX is an lts.conf option, to be put in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf (that file doesn't exist by default)
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| 12:44 | <pedronveloso> ok, so you suggest me creating it, and then reboot both client and server, or simply reboot client and do some update command on the server?
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| 12:45 | <alkisg> Create that file. Put the following in it:
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| 12:45 | [Default]
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| 12:45 | LDM_DIRECTX=True
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| 12:45 | Then reboot the client, and see if you like the performance
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| 12:45 | Then think if you're OK with the traffic being unencrypted :)
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| 12:46 | <pedronveloso> ok, just a quick question, does the server have to be 3d acelerated for this to work?
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| 12:47 | <alkisg> No
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| 12:57 | <pedronveloso> alkisg, it certanly feels faster now, the windows, even the scrool on webpages. but flash videos on youtube still have a bit of lag
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| 12:57 | alkisg, although, the lag it's only on the video, not on the sound
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| 12:58 | <Gnoze5> pedronveloso theres still video lag after the change?
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| 12:59 | <pedronveloso> yes, on Flash videos. I think it's related to the acelleration on the server, because "glxgears" fails to run
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| 13:00 | <Gnoze5> what about non flash video playback
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| 13:00 | <pedronveloso> let me try
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| 13:01 | <alkisg> pedronveloso: flash is another story. Try a divx video
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| 13:01 | It should play OK. Flash is very heavy on the CPU, and it usually doesn't use acceleration even if it's available.
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| 13:03 | <Gnoze5> what about something like skype alkisg?
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| 13:03 | <pedronveloso> tried MP4 video 640x480, very smooth
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| 13:04 | <alkisg> pedronveloso: it should be smooth even if you see it fullscreen
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| 13:04 | Gnoze5: I'm not using skype, but I think it works fine with ltsp
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| 13:04 | <pedronveloso> the problem appears tobe just Flash really. on Flash the video looks like those first digital cameras that seems like you're underwater on the preview screen :P
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| 13:04 | <Gnoze5> lol
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| 13:04 | pedro
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| 13:04 | its time to install skype :P
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| 13:04 | <pedronveloso> ok
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> If the clients are good enough, some people install firefox+flash as localapps
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| 13:05 | Then they run locally, so it goes much faster
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| 13:05 | <Gnoze5> alkisg our first implementations
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| 13:05 | the clients are not bad at all
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| 13:05 | <alkisg> RAM/CPU?
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| 13:06 | <Gnoze5> the worst we have p4 3.2 with 512 ram
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| 13:06 | otherwise
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> Then yeah flash would go much better as a localapp
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| 13:06 | <tastle73> @alksig: I use NIS for authentication
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| 13:06 | <Gnoze5> we havent started playing with local apps
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| 13:06 | <tastle73> sorry alkisg
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| 13:07 | <alkisg> tastle73: you should mention those things when you're asking for help with authentication problems :) Not using NIS, no idea about it.
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| 13:08 | <pedronveloso> yeah, defenitly chrome as a local app would be awsome
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| 13:08 | <tastle73> lol yes i should
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| 13:08 | <alkisg> Maybe a dns timeout problem
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| 13:10 | <tastle73> could be
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| 13:11 | dns is served from a 3rd machine that also does NIS and DHCP
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| 13:11 | <Gnoze5> so far im very impressed with ltsp...
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| 13:18 | <Gnoze5> LOL
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| 13:18 | we were testing skype
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| 13:18 | and the client logged out randomly
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| 13:20 | <Gnoze5> happened again
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| 13:20 | that is very strange
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| 13:22 | <alkisg> Check that user's ~/.xsession-errors, maybe skype crashed X
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| 13:23 | <Gnoze5> it worked for 2 seconds rhough
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| 13:23 | lolol
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| 13:23 | :)
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| 13:25 | <alkisg> Btw using X_COLORDEPTH=16 helps in making thin clients faster too
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| 13:28 | <Gnoze5> alkisg thanks for all the help btw...
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| 13:30 | <Gnoze5> http://pastebin.com/BEEFTSF8
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| 13:32 | both pidgin and skype die
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| 13:32 | but skype kicks us out o the session
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| 13:33 | <pedronveloso> they die when there's audio input I guess. because skype sounds play all well, until a call starts
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| 13:33 | <Gnoze5> try disabling input?
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| 14:24 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, i hope your life is working out for the better... your still on irc, so i see you haven't killed yourself yet
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| 14:29 | <Hyperbyte> andygraybeal, I wouldn't do that. :P
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| 14:30 | But yes, it is turning out for the better.
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| 14:30 | Tomorrow morning my new Kreidler Galactica 2.0 electrical scooter gets delivered. :)
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| 14:30 | http://www.kreidler.net/wp_kreidler_mot/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/3000_Galactica-2_0-Electro-Diagonal-links.jpg
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| 14:31 | * Hyperbyte loves electric vehicles | |
| 14:40 | <andygraybeal> Hyperbyte, nice to hear bro
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| 14:40 | i felt bad for you man !
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| 15:37 | <Hyperbyte> Thanks... that's kinda sweet actually. :)
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| 15:37 | I felt quite horrible as well... you know, it really sucks to implement a big system that the company is gonna depend on, and then have it break on you.
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| 15:38 | It's difficult enough convincing people open source is the way, and then you screw up in applying it. :)
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| 15:38 | Still, you know, Edubuntu is a great step forward. Plus, once this is going to work smoothly, it's gonna serve the company for years to come hopefully.
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| 15:59 | <Lns> Hyperbyte: I always say, Windows networks take about a day to set up, but then they break every month afterwards. Linux networks take about a month to set up, and never break. ;)
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| 16:14 | <Gnoze5> Lns i disagree!
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| 16:16 | <Lns> Gnoze5: you can certainly do that. ;)
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| 16:17 | <Gnoze5> Lns windows setups are broken from the second you set them up
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| 16:17 | lol
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| 16:18 | <Lns> I wouldn't say I disagree with that. Of course, you have to give it to the good people at Microsoft...they do try very hard.
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| 16:20 | <Gnoze5> they try very hard at selling a product that isnt good
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| 16:21 | im not a microsoft hater, but honestly most of their stuff does suck lol
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| 16:22 | anyway
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| 16:22 | so Lns youre tellig me it will take me a month to implement LTSP?
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| 16:24 | my impression thus far (testing it for a week now) is that deployment is actually quite easy
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| 16:28 | <dubkat> it took me several days to setup ltsp
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| 16:28 | however, it was my first time
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| 16:28 | using a distro i'm not familiar with
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| 16:29 | <Lns> Gnoze5: the actual setup of the ltsp server (I use debian primarily), including OS, takes me about an hour, tops. Configuring it for your site, however, will take some time depending.
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| 16:29 | It's all about the configuration and customization.
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| 16:29 | <dubkat> yes, that. the server install took like 20 minutes. its the ltsp stuff that is kind of a pain :)
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| 16:29 | but it works, quite beautifully
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| 16:30 | had 3 users using it today, and the serverload was barely 0.01
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| 16:30 | <Lns> dubkat: ah, the beauty of linux =)
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| 16:30 | <Gnoze5> but 1 month?
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| 16:30 | <dubkat> 1 month for what?
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| 16:30 | * Lns likes to eggagerate ;) | |
| 16:33 | <Gnoze5> actullay now that we are talking about this
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| 16:33 | what specificaly gives you trouble, or takes time
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| 16:33 | ?
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| 16:34 | <dubkat> depends on your skill level, patience, and how "in a hurry" you are -- which clearly was my problem
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| 16:34 | i rushed some steps that caused me headaches because i didn't pay attention to detail
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| 16:34 | <Lns> Gnoze5: integrating proprietary software causes the most trouble for me, by far
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| 16:35 | <dubkat> but you have some decisions to tmake
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| 16:35 | i'm using a hybrid thin/fat client setup
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| 16:35 | * runs on the server, except chromium, firefox, vlc, and gnome-mplayer
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| 16:35 | (yes, libreoffice runs on the server)
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| 16:36 | quite nicely too i'm supprised
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| 16:36 | custimizing stuff took a bit of time
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| 16:37 | <Gnoze5> hm
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| 16:37 | you mean deciding what you made a local app or not?
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| 16:38 | <dubkat> i made a custom /etc/skel/Desktop to include some icons for launching the browser(s), etc via localapps, custom LDM login screen with our company logo, a basic .xfce4 config dir that sets the background wallpaper to a nice background i made
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| 16:38 | well, figuring out HOW to do it right took me some time
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| 16:38 | but the friendly people on this channel (and the docs) were most helpful
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| 16:38 | <Lns> dubkat: you might want to stress-test libreoffice presentation software - I had issues with pixmap memory crashing thin clients with low memory (<512MB) because of the way it handles images and particularly the slideshow function.
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| 16:39 | this was a long time ago though (Ubuntu 8.04 days)
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| 16:39 | <Gnoze5> hm
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| 16:40 | one thing im sure
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| 16:40 | <dubkat> Lns: libreoffice runs on the server
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| 16:40 | <Gnoze5> our wiki is already starting to get long on notes
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| 16:40 | <dubkat> and they mostly use calc and writer
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| 16:40 | <Gnoze5> for ltsp
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| 16:41 | <dubkat> and the clients have 1g of memory anyway :)
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| 16:41 | <Gnoze5> 1g?
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| 16:41 | thats good
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| 16:41 | dubkat what proc?
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| 16:41 | <dubkat> atom
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| 16:42 | i think they are also 1ghz
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| 16:42 | i got them from DisklessWorkstations.com
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| 16:42 | <Lns> Gnoze5: the pixmap issue crashes the clients when the office software is running on the server.
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| 16:42 | <dubkat> ah
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| 16:42 | <Lns> err, dubkat ^^^
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| 16:43 | <dubkat> i'll keep an eye on it
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| 16:43 | <Lns> dubkat: Thanks =) It was a real PITA for me. What dist are you running?
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| 16:44 | <Gnoze5> ill keep an eye on it too lolol
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| 16:48 | <Lns> Gnoze5: do that! There are bug reports open with OOo and Ubuntu LP if you care to update them with your findings: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/315300 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/315300
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| 16:52 | <dubkat> Lns: ubuntu 11.04
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| 16:55 | <Lns> dubkat: that Launchpad bug I pasted had someone just ask me about 11.04 and if it still happened..it would help if you were able to test that out
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| 16:55 | I don't work for the place where I was having the issue anymore, so I can't test it
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