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Channel log from 13 February 2020 (all times are UTC)
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| 21:04 | <foxhoundvenom> hello
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| 21:05 | <alkisg> hello foxhoundvenom
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| 21:05 | <foxhoundvenom> Has anyone been successful in creating a an LTSP Server with thin clients that are kubuntu images?
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| 21:05 | <alkisg> LTSP is mostly recommending fat clients currently, not thin clients
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| 21:06 | But sure, there are many kubuntu ltsp installations
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| 21:07 | <foxhoundvenom> I can do a fat client if need be. I just am new to LTSP and if either someone can share knowledge or point me in the right direction.. I am having difficulty on setup parameters for kubuntu.
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| 21:08 | <alkisg> foxhoundvenom: start with this:
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| 21:08 | !install
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| 21:08 | <ltspbot> install: To install LTSP: https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/
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| 21:10 | <foxhoundvenom> Yes, I found that and got to the "Maintaining a client image" Section but like I said, I can't find info for Kubuntu... thank you for your help alkisg btw.
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| 21:10 | <alkisg> foxhoundvenom: you install a desktop pc with kubuntu, and you call that server
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| 21:11 | Then, you follow instructions, which at some point say to run: ltsp image /
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| 21:11 | That then creates a fat kubuntu image for your clients to boot from
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| 21:11 | That's all, there's nothing desktop specific about it. Any desktop will do.
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| 21:11 | *desktop environment
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| 21:12 | <foxhoundvenom> alkisg So, I don't run LTSP on Ubuntu with vm-like client kubuntu images?
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| 21:13 | <alkisg> foxhoundvenom: of course not, if you want kubuntu, just put kubuntu on the server directly
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| 21:13 | No need to maintain any client image at all, the server installation will be duplicated for the clients
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| 21:13 | the chrootless mode
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| 21:17 | <foxhoundvenom> alkisg So then does it duplicate the server and keep any downloaded / saved files?
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| 21:18 | <alkisg> foxhoundvenom: it duplicates the server /, but not the server /home, because that is shared via sshfs or nfs
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| 21:18 | Which means that a single shared home is used for all the computer lab
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| 21:19 | <foxhoundvenom> alkisg The best way I can describewhat I want to do is, I want to create an environment for my children using Raspberry Pi's to remote into vm's on a server.
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| 21:19 | I have the server
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| 21:20 | The Pi's are arriving today
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| 21:20 | <alkisg> Ah, bad purchase then :D
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| 21:20 | <foxhoundvenom> I want to run Linux based items
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| 21:21 | <alkisg> You can install kubuntu on your server, and then create a raspbian chroot by following this: https://ltsp.org/docs/installation/raspbian/
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| 21:21 | And then you'd use xfreerdp or x2go to connect to the server
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| 21:21 | You don't need any VMs
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| 21:38 | <foxhoundvenom> alkisg So far lots of great information... I think I may have been confused on LTSP's and Thin clients at some point. I purchased a Dell R710 Gen II for $175, threw in 8 drives running raid 6 with 64GB of RAM and 2 CPU's. I want to run the PI's in PoE mode to allow for less wires. I figured with a good enough server, I could remote into some vm's
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| 21:38 | but I have never done it before and I am loving Linux more and more every day.
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| 21:39 | I have never run thin / fat / zero clients before so it is very new to me
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| 21:40 | To clarify I have done lots of VM's
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| 21:40 | just not for clients
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| 21:41 | <alkisg> foxhoundvenom: google about xrdp and xfreerdp, you basically want to try a remote desktop connection
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| 21:41 | The netbooting part is not very important, you could just put a $3 sd card with raspbian on your 2-3 clients and boot with that, and then remote desktop to your server
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| 21:42 | It would be important if you had to maintain lots of clients, but for 2-3 clients it's not
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| 21:44 | <foxhoundvenom> alkisg Thank you so much for all your help. I am very grateful and I feel sometimes that isn't expressed enough on forums and such.
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| 21:44 | <alkisg> But in general remote desktop isn't very good for browsing and multimedia etc, so it's best NOT to invest on good servers, but on good clients
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| 21:44 | !cheap-client
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| 21:44 | <ltspbot> cheap-client: https://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-c_11262/?attr=2081-1279
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| 21:45 | <alkisg> So if you had bought some of these ^ instead of rpis, it would make children happier, and you wouldn't even need a server
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| 21:46 | <foxhoundvenom> Well, I have other uses for the server. I have Nextcloud up and running on it which doubles as a media server.
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| 21:48 | alkisg I was hoping to put most of the load on the server since there is redundancy and all that, because kids being kids, things with cords can be destroyed / broken easily. With the server in a safe place = peace of mind
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| 21:49 | <alkisg> An HD video needs 1920×1080×4×60 = 497664000 = 5 Gbps network bandwidth
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| 21:50 | Multiply that with your number of kids. The result will be dropped frames and unhappy kids
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| 21:50 | But for simple stuff like libreoffice it'll be fine
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| 21:50 | As long as they don't want gaming and youtube
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| 21:50 | <foxhoundvenom> Which is what they are for, the media server and school. My wife homeschools them.
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| 21:50 | <alkisg> That's why we're recommending fat clients instead of thin
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| 21:51 | <foxhoundvenom> No gaming or Youtube.
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| 21:51 | <alkisg> Great then
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| 21:52 | Give xfreerdp and xrdp a test, to see if the performance suits you
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