IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 29 October 2019 (all times are UTC)
| 00:09 | Leolo_2 has joined IRC (Leolo_2!~fil@184-75-132-167.dr.cgocable.ca) | |
| 00:42 | vagrantc has left IRC (vagrantc!~vagrant@unaffiliated/vagrantc, Quit: leaving) | |
| 06:01 | statler has joined IRC (statler!~Georg@p5B30EE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 06:07 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p57A0E783.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 06:13 | ricotz has joined IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@ubuntu/member/ricotz) | |
| 06:55 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-231.home.otenet.gr) | |
| 07:04 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 07:27 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | |
| 07:45 | statler has left IRC (statler!~Georg@p5B30EE2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 07:46 | Leolo_2 has left IRC (Leolo_2!~fil@184-75-132-167.dr.cgocable.ca, Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | |
| 08:38 | adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@177.134.56.15) | |
| 08:40 | adrianor1 has left IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@179.179.76.164, Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | |
| 08:41 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 08:45 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Client Quit) | |
| 08:56 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@177.134.56.15, Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | |
| 09:08 | adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.28.138.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) | |
| 09:10 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 09:26 | nikoh77 has joined IRC (nikoh77!~nikoh77@93-55-122-94.ip263.fastwebnet.it) | |
| 09:35 | <nikoh77> Good morning, i have an hold version of ltsp installed on my server, can i upgrade to new version without problems.... in safe mode?
| |
| 09:35 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | |
| 09:35 | <nikoh77> This is on top of ubuntu mate 18.04
| |
| 09:41 | <alkisg> nikoh77: what does "safe mode" mean?
| |
| 09:42 | You may have both the old and the new ltsp installed; but they use different locations (/srv/ltsp instead of /opt/ltsp) and different configuration files (ltsp.conf instead of lts.conf)
| |
| 09:43 | nikoh77_ has joined IRC (nikoh77_!~nikoh77@host148-135-static.9-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) | |
| 09:45 | <nikoh77_> alkisg: ok, so i cant upgrade my old version right?
| |
| 09:45 | <alkisg> nikoh77_: you can use the same chroots and boot them with either the old or the new ltsp
| |
| 09:45 | It's not really "upgrading", but it's better than upgrading...
| |
| 09:46 | nikoh77 has left IRC (nikoh77!~nikoh77@93-55-122-94.ip263.fastwebnet.it, Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | |
| 09:46 | <alkisg> Are you using chroots, or chrootless?
| |
| 09:46 | <nikoh77_> chrootless
| |
| 09:47 | <alkisg> Eh, then you just need to run `ltsp image` after you install the new one, no big deal (or move the existing one)
| |
| 09:47 | !install
| |
| 09:47 | <ltsp> install: To install LTSP19+: https://ltsp.github.io/docs/installation. To install LTSP5: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation/Ubuntu for Ubuntu, or http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Installation for other distributions
| |
| 09:47 | <enaut[m]> nikoh77_: but it means you have to configure the new ltsp again (not the operating system...) - but since almost all changed you would have to doublecheck configuration anyways
| |
| 09:47 | <alkisg> I.e. if you follow the first link there everything should work fine
| |
| 09:48 | <nikoh77_> ok, thanks, i try
| |
| 09:48 | <alkisg> Yeah ltsp.conf is very different than lts.conf, so if you have a big lts.conf, you'll need some time to adjust it
| |
| 09:52 | <nikoh77_> alkisg: ok, as soon as I have time I will try it
| |
| 09:52 | <alkisg> np
| |
| 09:55 | nikoh77_ has left IRC (nikoh77_!~nikoh77@host148-135-static.9-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it, ) | |
| 10:11 | os_a has left IRC (os_a!~Thunderbi@195.112.116.22, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 10:12 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 10:31 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | |
| 10:31 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 10:33 | eu^host-41331011 has joined IRC (eu^host-41331011!292165c6@41.33.101.198) | |
| 10:33 | <eu^host-41331011> hi
| |
| 10:34 | i have external dhcp on windows server
| |
| 10:34 | and i disable the proxy dhcp
| |
| 10:34 | i need to add the pxe boot bath in the dhcp server
| |
| 10:35 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Client Quit) | |
| 10:40 | <eu^host-41331011> any help
| |
| 10:43 | alkisg_android has joined IRC (alkisg_android!~yaaic@internet2-5-144-217-34.pat.ren.cosmote.net) | |
| 10:43 | <alkisg_android> eu, ltsp5 or ltsp19?
| |
| 10:43 | eu^host-41331011: ^
| |
| 10:54 | <eu^host-41331011> ltsp 19
| |
| 10:55 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 10:56 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Client Quit) | |
| 11:00 | <eu^host-41331011> i need to send the bootbath by dhcp server not by proxy dhcp
| |
| 11:03 | georgeneophytou has joined IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213) | |
| 11:52 | Faith has joined IRC (Faith!~Paty_@unaffiliated/faith) | |
| 11:52 | alkisg_android has left IRC (alkisg_android!~yaaic@internet2-5-144-217-34.pat.ren.cosmote.net, Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | |
| 11:53 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-231.home.otenet.gr, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 11:55 | <alkisg> eu^host-41331011: it's best if you don't set the boot filename or root path at all in the windows dhcp server, and enable the ltsp proxydhcp server
| |
| 11:56 | Because it's not a single filename anymore; as we needed to support BIOS, UEFI, ipxe menus etc
| |
| 11:56 | To set up the windows dhcp for ipxe, you'd need this: http://ipxe.org/howto/msdhcp
| |
| 11:56 | And then you'd additionally need to add entries for bios, uefi and raspberry pis
| |
| 11:57 | So it's a lot more easy if you just enable proxydhcp
| |
| 11:58 | Here are the related dnsmasq entries: https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/blob/master/ltsp/server/dnsmasq/ltsp-dnsmasq.conf#L48
| |
| 12:00 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-68.home.otenet.gr) | |
| 12:03 | section1 has joined IRC (section1!~section1@178.33.109.106) | |
| 12:06 | <eu^host-41331011> ok thanks
| |
| 12:18 | fiesh has left IRC (fiesh!~fiesh@hq.wsoptics.de, Quit: server restart) | |
| 12:35 | <highvoltage> this isn't an ltsp specific question, but I'm hoping someone can help me with the command-line syntax for booting over nbd. I have a nbd server on 10.1.0.1 with export called disk
| |
| 12:36 | <alkisg> highvoltage: boot over nbd rw, without tmpfs/overlayfs etc?
| |
| 12:36 | <highvoltage> in ipxe I append "nbdroot=10.1.0.1,disk" to the kernel paramater
| |
| 12:36 | <alkisg> nbdroot=10.1.0.1:/disk
| |
| 12:36 | <highvoltage> oh a slash? interesting
| |
| 12:36 | thanks let me try
| |
| 12:37 | <alkisg> It's the root path, the one that goes in the nbd config header
| |
| 12:38 | fiesh has joined IRC (fiesh!~fiesh@hq.wsoptics.de) | |
| 12:38 | <fiesh> omg, after a reboot we now get Error: connection not allowed by server policy.
| |
| 12:38 | from nbd
| |
| 12:38 | anyone know what that is?
| |
| 12:39 | ok I know what it is... our zfs share broke
| |
| 12:40 | eu^host-41331011 has left IRC (eu^host-41331011!292165c6@41.33.101.198, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 12:40 | <fiesh> because a hard disk broke or the controller or something... hurray
| |
| 12:44 | <highvoltage> odd, if I add that I get 'tftp: client does not accept options' in my log
| |
| 12:45 | <alkisg> highvoltage: that doesn't sound related... in any case, how does the client proceed? Also, what's your nbd config?
| |
| 12:47 | <highvoltage> alkisg: preparing a paste...
| |
| 12:50 | alkisg: so here's the actual details: http://paste.debian.net/1111658/
| |
| 12:51 | if I leave out the nbdroot= part, I can type 'nbd-client 10.1.26.10 /dev/nbd0 --name campusimg' and predd ctrl+d and continue to boot fine
| |
| 12:51 | but after trying a million different potential (and outdated) kernel paramater combinations I've now properly confused myself
| |
| 12:53 | <alkisg> highvoltage: which ubuntu/debian version? At some point nbd was adding an extra / at the path
| |
| 12:53 | So e.g. [/campusimg] was needed instead of [campusimg]
| |
| 12:53 | <highvoltage> debian 10
| |
| 12:53 | <alkisg> journalctl -fe on the server should notify about such issues...
| |
| 12:54 | OK no buster shouldn't be affected by this
| |
| 12:55 | It looks ok to me; if you do put nbdroot there, what does the client show? where does it hang?
| |
| 12:58 | <highvoltage> alkisg: https://i.imgur.com/lekVhQW.png
| |
| 13:05 | so it looks like nbd-client is unhappy about the syntax that's passed to it
| |
| 13:14 | alkisg: I got it! http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/n/nbd/stable_nbd-client.README.Debian
| |
| 13:14 | so it wants nbdroot=10.1.26.10,campusimg,nbd0
| |
| 13:15 | <alkisg> Meh, wouter has changed the syntax 100 times and still didn't just make it the same as nfs and be done with it...
| |
| 13:16 | nbdroot=server:/export is what works in ubuntu 18.04
| |
| 13:17 | <highvoltage> wouter lives close to me now so I'll go sort him out
| |
| 13:17 | well in this case it seems upstream kernel that changed it though
| |
| 13:17 | <alkisg> Haha I'll buy you both a beer if you convince him to make it the same as nfs :D
| |
| 13:18 | I think those all are nbd-client+debian+initramfs-tools specific
| |
| 13:18 | Dracut has a completely different syntax; and the kernel knows nothing about client cmdline nbd parameters
| |
| 13:18 | <highvoltage> ah yes, looks like it
| |
| 13:19 | <alkisg> E.g. with nfs, we can drop new images and not restart nfs-kernel-server
| |
| 13:20 | With nbd, we'd need to add new configuration files, restart nbd-server, lose existing connections, reboot clients...
| |
| 13:20 | all that just because he opted for the [header] idea instead of using file paths and dirs like nfs
| |
| 13:20 | *and export dirs
| |
| 13:22 | <highvoltage> ouch, never realised that
| |
| 13:22 | I can give him a demo of how painful that is :)
| |
| 13:24 | <alkisg> Maybe he could tweak it a bit now and support wildcards in the [headers]; that would allow one to specify /srv/ltsp/images/*.img in a single file
| |
| 13:30 | <highvoltage> that sounds interesting, haven't ever used that myself
| |
| 13:44 | adrianor1 has joined IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@177.156.56.214) | |
| 13:46 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.28.138.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br, Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | |
| 13:54 | adrianor1 has left IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@177.156.56.214, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 14:14 | adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@177.204.148.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) | |
| 14:25 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@177.204.148.86.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br, Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | |
| 14:34 | section1 has left IRC (section1!~section1@178.33.109.106, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 14:39 | section1 has joined IRC (section1!~section1@178.33.109.106) | |
| 14:42 | <enaut[m]> alkisg: ltsp --help says no manpage again.
| |
| 14:43 | installed in a virtualmachine Ubuntu 19.04
| |
| 14:44 | adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.27.223.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) | |
| 14:49 | mmarconm has joined IRC (mmarconm!~mmarconm@unaffiliated/mmarconm) | |
| 14:58 | <alkisg> enaut[m], I haven't done a new release in the ppa for a while, let me send a build...
| |
| 14:59 | (it works fine here, but I'm running directly from the git tree...)
| |
| 15:00 | enaut[m], ah, actually, would you mind me having a look over vnc or something?
| |
| 15:00 | !vnc-edide
| |
| 15:00 | <ltsp> vnc-edide: To share your screen with me, open Epoptes → Help menu → Remote support → Host: srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr, and click the Connect button
| |
| 15:00 | <alkisg> It would be so much faster to see if something in vagrant's changes broke something in the man pages..
| |
| 15:01 | * alkisg fires up a vm... | |
| 15:02 | <enaut[m]> connected
| |
| 15:02 | <alkisg> Meh slow vnc, moment
| |
| 15:02 | georgeneophytou has left IRC (georgeneophytou!~georgeneo@217.27.33.213, Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | |
| 15:03 | <alkisg> enaut[m], it's too slow, I'll install a vm
| |
| 15:03 | thank you
| |
| 15:03 | It looks definitely broken
| |
| 15:04 | <enaut[m]> I can consolesceen...
| |
| 15:04 | if that helps
| |
| 15:04 | <alkisg> No worries it'll just take 5 mins
| |
| 15:04 | <enaut[m]> ok
| |
| 15:04 | <alkisg> Please also keep an eye broken for other things
| |
| 15:04 | As I haven't tested vagrant's changes
| |
| 15:06 | <enaut[m]> sure!
| |
| 15:08 | <alkisg> enaut[m], what's the output of `apt policy ltsp` ?
| |
| 15:09 | apt policy ltsp | nc termbin.com 9999
| |
| 15:09 | ....is a quick way to share it
| |
| 15:10 | <enaut[m]> https://termbin.com/j16t
| |
| 15:10 | <alkisg> Hrm, so it sounds like 19.04 is broken; I should test with that one instead of 18.04 which works
| |
| 15:11 | Let me see the build log...
| |
| 15:14 | adrianor1 has joined IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@187.115.105.68) | |
| 15:15 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.27.223.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br, Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | |
| 15:16 | <enaut[m]> I'm afk for now - will read the chat later...
| |
| 15:16 | <alkisg> enaut[m]
| |
| 15:16 | I think it's just broken because of your internet
| |
| 15:16 | https://code.launchpad.net/~alkisg/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/17936554 says all man pages are there
| |
| 15:16 | And your `dpkg -L ltsp | grep man` doesn't show them
| |
| 15:16 | <enaut[m]> my internet?
| |
| 15:16 | <alkisg> Try sudo apt install --reinstall ltsp
| |
| 15:17 | And see if `dpkg -L ltsp | grep man` ends up showing the man pages
| |
| 15:17 | <enaut[m]> ok
| |
| 15:17 | <alkisg> # md5sum ltsp_19.10-1~201910192023~ubuntu19.04.1_all.deb
| |
| 15:17 | d8082250f8c1a6c513bd305180073174 ltsp_19.10-1~201910192023~ubuntu19.04.1_all.deb
| |
| 15:18 | This is the md5sum of the deb for 19.04, as provided by launchpad...
| |
| 15:18 | I haven't tested in 19.04, but the deb file does contain the man pages, and in your system they don't show up
| |
| 15:19 | Hrm no you have the older build
| |
| 15:19 | Maybe I just forgot to copy the new one
| |
| 15:19 | OK ok ok I'll send a new one now, it should clear things up
| |
| 15:20 | Sorry for the noise
| |
| 15:21 | <enaut[m]> no problem...
| |
| 15:21 | Leolo_2 has joined IRC (Leolo_2!~fil@184-75-132-167.dr.cgocable.ca) | |
| 15:21 | <enaut[m]> so I just wait and update in a while?
| |
| 15:21 | <alkisg> Yes
| |
| 15:21 | <enaut[m]> and thanks for solving it
| |
| 15:24 | <alkisg> To be safe, I sent the build to my own ppa instead of the ltsp ppa, in order to copy it after testing, and I forgot to copy :D
| |
| 15:24 | So I made an announcement of a new version that noone saw :D
| |
| 15:25 | <enaut[m]> good thing the old one has had no man pages oO
| |
| 15:57 | mgariepy has left IRC (mgariepy!~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 15:59 | mgariepy has joined IRC (mgariepy!~mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy) | |
| 16:08 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@ppp-94-66-220-68.home.otenet.gr, Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | |
| 16:22 | mmarconm has left IRC (mmarconm!~mmarconm@unaffiliated/mmarconm, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 16:36 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p57A0E783.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 16:43 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p57A0E783.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 16:46 | <alkisg> enaut[m], it should be ready; have a look when you want
| |
| 16:56 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p57A0E783.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 17:01 | woernie has joined IRC (woernie!~werner@p57A0E783.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | |
| 17:01 | woernie has left IRC (woernie!~werner@p57A0E783.dip0.t-ipconnect.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 18:22 | woernie_ has joined IRC (woernie_!~werner@x4d08906f.dyn.telefonica.de) | |
| 19:43 | kjackal has joined IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:587:3107:2e00:9d60:90ea:afa0:294f) | |
| 19:53 | woernie_ has left IRC (woernie_!~werner@x4d08906f.dyn.telefonica.de, Remote host closed the connection) | |
| 20:02 | section1 has left IRC (section1!~section1@178.33.109.106, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 20:45 | adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.30.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) | |
| 20:47 | adrianor1 has left IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@187.115.105.68, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 21:03 | kjackal has left IRC (kjackal!~quassel@2a02:587:3107:2e00:9d60:90ea:afa0:294f, Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | |
| 21:33 | adrianor1 has joined IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@179.179.72.117) | |
| 21:35 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@179.187.30.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br, Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | |
| 21:37 | Faith has left IRC (Faith!~Paty_@unaffiliated/faith, Quit: Leaving) | |
| 21:43 | adrianor1 has left IRC (adrianor1!~adrianorg@179.179.72.117, Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | |
| 22:03 | adrianorg has joined IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@186.215.20.57) | |
| 22:10 | adrianorg has left IRC (adrianorg!~adrianorg@186.215.20.57, Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | |
| 22:44 | eu^205215175117 has joined IRC (eu^205215175117!cdd7af75@205.215.175.117) | |
| 22:46 | <eu^205215175117> Hi! Just looking to confirm -- screen broadcasting and a lot of other functionality in Epoptes is NOT yet working in ltsp19, correct?
| |
| 22:51 | eu^205215175117 has left IRC (eu^205215175117!cdd7af75@205.215.175.117) | |
| 22:52 | eu^205215175117 has joined IRC (eu^205215175117!cdd7af75@205.215.175.117) | |
| 22:53 | <eu^205215175117> oops... question about epoptes screen broadcasting and ltsp19.
| |
| 23:03 | will jump back in here in an hour or so...
| |
| 23:04 | eu^205215175117 has left IRC (eu^205215175117!cdd7af75@205.215.175.117) | |
| 23:27 | ricotz has left IRC (ricotz!~ricotz@ubuntu/member/ricotz, Quit: Leaving) | |