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12:37 | <vagrantc> hmm... seems like someone maybe finally figured out what's wrong with autologin on ldm ...
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12:38 | <vagrantc> http://bugs.debian.org/462760 and 462764
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12:38 | !seen sbalneav
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12:38 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: sbalneav was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 0 days, 2 hours, and 7 seconds ago: <sbalneav> I've been hellishly busy
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12:38 | <vagrantc> heh
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14:35 | <lgbr> How do I create /var/opt/ltsp/swapfiles ?
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14:43 | <vagrantc> lgbr: which linux distro?
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14:45 | <lgbr> vagrantc: Gentoo
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14:45 | <vagrantc> lgbr: so ltsp 4.x, or some other thing?
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14:45 | <lgbr> 4.2
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14:46 | <vagrantc> lgbr: have you looked on wiki.ltsp.org ?
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14:46 | <lgbr> nope, I will do that now. Thanks :)
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14:48 | I don't need it though, do I?
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14:56 | <vagrantc> lgbr: you'd need it if your thin clients have very little memory ... for ltsp 4.x ... you're probably fine with 32-64MB, i think.
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14:58 | <lgbr> ok good
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14:58 | another question
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14:58 | I have a node booting
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14:59 | <dberkholz> hmm. seems to be a lot of people lately with gentoo, at least when i've looked.
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14:59 | guess i should get on that.
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14:59 | <lgbr> and he's gotten to the "Loading 192.168.1.1:/opt/ltsp-4.2/vmlinuz-2.6.17-ltsp-1" page, but it's very VERY slow
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14:59 | I have 6 '.' and it has been 5 minutes
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15:00 | * vagrantc nods to dberkholz | |
15:00 | <lgbr> iftop shows 0b moving across the network
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15:00 | <dberkholz> hiya.
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15:00 | vagrantc: know if you're gonna make it to oscon this year?
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15:02 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i plan to be in portland till mid to late july, so probably be around for it
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15:02 | <dberkholz> cool
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15:02 | if i do something really quick with LTSP, i could propose an oscon talk about it
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15:02 | i'm sort of busy telling people that gentoo isn't actually collapsing atm.
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15:02 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: also, if you'd ever want to meet in person and just do a quick hack session to get things rolling, i'd be happy to do that
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15:03 | <dberkholz> that might be a good idea, setting aside some time where i can't actually work on anything else
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15:03 | <lgbr> oh snap oscon is in portland
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15:03 | That's not far at all
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15:03 | <vagrantc> having ubuntu, debian, fedora and gentoo all actively working on it hopefully will result in things getting cleaned up good and fast
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15:04 | dberkholz: i could probably arrange some space at freegeek to work on it, and invite a few other folks to join in
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15:05 | <dberkholz> how's the weekend of feb. 9-10?
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15:05 | my wife will be out of town
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15:05 | * vagrantc checks | |
15:07 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: there's a freegeek sysadmin meeting from 3-6pm on the 9th, but the rest of the weekend is pretty free ... and we could probably even share some time with the sysadmins
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15:08 | <dberkholz> i was thinking i could just come up earlyish on the 9th, spend all day sat and sun hacking, and find a place to crash sat night
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15:08 | <johnny> evil west coasters
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15:08 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: sounds plausible.
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15:08 | <johnny> now if only i could find some folks in the mid east coast :)
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15:09 | i have a nice place for a hackfest of some kind
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15:09 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i'll probably be partially busy on saturday, but not so much i couldn't answer questions and such
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15:09 | johnny: whereabouts ?
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15:09 | <johnny> baltimore, md
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15:09 | <dberkholz> need to find some boxes to test with, too
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15:10 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: freegeek can surely provide boxes to test on :)
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15:10 | <johnny> it's in an old church :)
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15:10 | <dberkholz> vagrantc: you guys got any spare fast ones there, that i could temporarily use for development, or are they mostly more terminal-type?
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15:11 | my laptop's a ppc, and not sure i want to deal with crosscompile issues just yet
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15:11 | <johnny> http://www.redemmas.org/cms_media/IMG_1813.JPG that's where :)
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15:11 | <dberkholz> otherwise i can lug up the desktop
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15:11 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: could wrangle up a 2GHz or so, for sure
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15:11 | dberkholz: and could probably even wrangle up something faster
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15:12 | dberkholz: with 2 weeks notice ... almost surely.
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15:12 | <dberkholz> vagrantc: ok. if that was possible by say the week before, i could get it properly set up remotely before i came up
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15:12 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: sounds feasible
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15:13 | <dberkholz> cool. this is exciting.
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15:20 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i put in the room use request, and i'll work on getting the server together.
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15:20 | <dberkholz> vagrantc: great, thanks!
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15:21 | vagrantc: is it safe to assume you've also got monitors/keyboards around?
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15:21 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: yeah
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15:21 | <dberkholz> sweet.
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15:21 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: you'll see when you get there :)
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15:21 | <dberkholz> this is gonna rock.
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15:21 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: hundreds, really
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15:21 | <dberkholz> any model m's? =)
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15:22 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: what would be the lower end for the server as far as processor, ram and hard drive you'll need?
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15:24 | <dberkholz> vagrantc: cpu as fast as possible, ram -- let's say 512 if if there's pxe-capable computers around, 1G if i need virtualbox. HDD, maybe 40G would do
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15:26 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i'm guessing we can probably get a 2GHz with .5-2GB of ram and a 40GB hard drive shouldn't be hard to come by.
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15:26 | <dberkholz> vagrantc: i've got a dual athlon 2000 at home, so if there isn't anything with comparable cpu ( >=2 or so), i'll just throw that in the trunk and bring it.
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15:27 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: probably wouldn't hurt to bring it just in case ... and then you'd at least have two machines to work with.
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15:28 | <dberkholz> i've got an old x86 laptop as a possible tester, if i can make a netboot floppy with pcmcia
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15:28 | <vagrantc> pcmcia and netboot is tricky ...
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15:28 | thin clients shouldn't be hard to come by at all.
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15:28 | <dberkholz> can't remember whether etherboot supported it, last time i checked
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15:28 | <vagrantc> literally hundreds.
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15:29 | <dberkholz> yeah, i guess i'll just bring the beast.
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15:29 | <vagrantc> i can also bring the thin-client jammcq gave me
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15:29 | <dberkholz> don't worry about trying too hard on the other server box
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15:29 | <vagrantc> dberkholz: i'll make the request, and worst case is we get a nice box built out for some other purpose :)
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17:34 | * vagrantc waves to jammcq | |
17:34 | <jammcq> hey vagrantc
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17:34 | <vagrantc> jammcq: you wouldn't happen to be in portland on february 9th-10th ?
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17:35 | jammcq: sounds like dberkholz and i are going to get together and finally get ltsp5 going for gentoo :)
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17:35 | <jammcq> heh, nope
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17:35 | not much traveling for me for a while
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17:35 | my next trip will be brazil in april
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17:35 | <vagrantc> eharrison is in the portland area, no?
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17:35 | <jammcq> yes
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17:35 | he sure is
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17:36 | <vagrantc> i should post to ltsp-developer maybe
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17:37 | <cliebow> warren may be in touch qith eric..
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17:41 | <jammcq> sounds like the makings of a hack-fest
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17:41 | <vagrantc> yeah
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17:41 | <cliebow> wrong Portland though..
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17:41 | 8~)
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17:41 | <jammcq> well, it's all about perspective
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17:41 | <cliebow> heh
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20:39 | <warren> vagrantc, which portland?
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20:50 | <jammcq> heh
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20:50 | the west one
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20:53 | <warren> hmm, this is too soon for me
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20:53 | cheap for me to visit, but I've been traveling FAR too much lately
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