00:07 | <vagrantc> not in less than 3 minutes...
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00:19 | <major_ghz> hello
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00:19 | how can i connect a client to my ltsp server under internet ?
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00:25 | <vagrantc> what exactly do you mean?
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00:27 | you'll typically need to set up firewalling and NX, VNC, RDP or some other protocol to get access to your server, if you want a graphical interface
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00:27 | over the internet
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00:27 | for a text interface, ssh works pretty well
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00:27 | graphical is possible with ssh oveer the internet, but has some serious latency issues
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00:28 | booting a thin client over the internet, while possible, has even more serious latency issues
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00:28 | not to mention security
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00:29 | ltsp is mainly about network booted clients, but only really on the local network. but there's nothing stopping you from using other available technologies to connect to your LTSP- it's just a computer like any other.
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00:29 | connect to your LTSP server, that is
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00:37 | <major_ghz> re
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00:39 | connect simply a thin client on my ltsp server on internet, yes
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00:41 | vagrantc, ?
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00:47 | <vagrantc> major_ghz: you'd be better off running a local OS and using a technology appropriate to connecting over the internet
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00:47 | <vagrantc> major_ghz: you mean give internet access to the thin client?
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00:48 | major_ghz: both client and server on local lan?
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00:48 | <major_ghz> i have an local os, but i would like test an ltsp server over internet
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00:51 | <vagrantc> major_ghz: if you just want to test the ltsp server remotely, i'd use libvirt and virt-manager and use a virtual thin client running on the server...
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00:56 | <major_ghz> over internet
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00:56 | i would like test over internet
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00:58 | <vagrantc> i don't know what you mean by test over internet
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00:58 | LTSP doesn't run over the internet, so i don't know what you would test
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00:58 | <major_ghz> the same as an local network with thin client but over internet
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00:59 | ok, i can't user ltsp over internet
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00:59 | <vagrantc> i mean, you technically could try to do all that over the internet, but it'd be very slow
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00:59 | *very* slow
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01:00 | <major_ghz> an os can use in the mode client server like it but can used over internet ?
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01:01 | <vagrantc> technically possible, but probably a bad idea.
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01:01 | but i'm not sure i really understand what you're asking...
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01:01 | <major_ghz> too much slowly ?
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01:01 | <vagrantc> very much slowly. wow.
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01:02 | why do you want to test over the internet?
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01:03 | what are you trying to test?
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01:03 | <major_ghz> my english will be bad when need sleeping
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01:03 | <vagrantc> no worries :)
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01:04 | <major_ghz> juste want some thin client and only one server administrate
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01:04 | <vagrantc> english is the only language i know at all well, and my biggest problem is having the courage to try :)
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01:05 | <major_ghz> but the client are not in the local
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01:05 | <vagrantc> you'd be better off connecting to your server with some protocol designed for use on the internet
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01:05 | <major_ghz> not possible ?
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01:05 | <vagrantc> NX or VNC
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01:06 | maybe others
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01:06 | but that's not really LTSP
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01:06 | <major_ghz> you can say more about nx and vnc ?
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01:06 | <vagrantc> major_ghz: not useable, but possible :)
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01:06 | i don't know much about them, but it sounds like what you need :)
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01:07 | <major_ghz> not useable ? ok not os or system can do that i like
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01:07 | thank for your time
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03:52 | <gdi2k_> alkisg, Sorry to bother you again! I would like to explore fixing LTSP clients to specific servers by default (using their MAC addresses) - the user would manually select the other server on the PXE menu in the event of a failure. This can be done with dnsmasq's PXE menus, but during boot, the client does a second DHCP request which determines the all important nbd root server, and either of the two dnsmasq servers may respond with their respective IP, so it
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03:52 | may or may not end up on the server originally selected in the PXE menu. Is that correct?
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03:53 | <alkisg> No, it's not correct because you're using ipappend 3
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03:53 | So the client doesn't do a second dhcp request, it reuses the first one
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03:53 | <gdi2k_> ah ok nice! :)
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03:54 | thanks for all your help - are you anywhere near Athens? I may be going to Porto Rafti June, would love to buy you a beer or 3 for all your troubles
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03:55 | <alkisg> Cool! I'm 6 hours away from athens, but it's possible that I would be there at that time for vacations, so feel free to PM me then if you want
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03:55 | (ioannina is the name of my city)
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03:55 | <gdi2k_> cool, sounds good, will do!
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04:17 | alkisg, on the topic of ipappend 3, the config gets overwritten when I update the chroot - any way to make it more permanent?
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07:42 | <demoTN> Hello
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07:44 | <alkisg> Hi
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07:46 | demoTN: speak here, don't use personal messages
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07:46 | <demoTN> sorry
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07:48 | I've got a lab with 25 fatclient ubuntu and a server epoptes (teacher pc)
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07:49 | but when I try command "epoptes-client -c 192.168.20.160" from ltsp-chroot on ltsp-server
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07:49 | the error is "epoptes-client ERROR: Failed to fetch certificate from 192.168.20.160:789"
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07:49 | <alkisg> The ltsp server is also the epoptes server?
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07:50 | Tell me the ip of the ltsp server, and the ip of the epoptes server
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07:50 | <demoTN> no, epoptes server is the teacher's pc
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07:50 | <alkisg> Is the teacher pc an ltsp client?
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07:50 | <demoTN> ltsp-server 192.168.20.10, epoptes-server 192.168.20.160
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07:50 | no, teacher's pc is the epoptes server
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07:52 | <alkisg> OK. In the teacher's PC, what is the output of "sudo netstat -tanp|grep 789" ?
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07:53 | <demoTN> on ltsp-chroot "tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:789 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1960/python"
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07:53 | <alkisg> Not on the chroot, epoptes shouldn't be installed in the chroot
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07:54 | epoptes-client to the chroot, and epoptes to the teacher pc
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07:54 | and epoptes-client to the ltsp server
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08:05 | <demoTN> on epoptes-server tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:789 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1119/python tcp 0 0 192.168.20.160:789 192.168.20.126:49725 ESTABLISHED 1119/python tcp 0 0 192.168.20.160:789 192.168.20.126:49730 ESTABLISHED 1119/python tcp 0 0 192.168.20.160:789 192.168.20.125:44264 TIME_WAIT - tcp 0 0 192.168.20.160:
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08:08 | <alkisg> demoTN: can you use the epoptes remote support feature to share your screen with me so that we resolve this faster?
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08:09 | help > remote support > computer: alkisg.dyndns.org
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08:09 | Or, x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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08:11 | <demoTN> do you need a terminal?
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08:11 | <alkisg> Yup :)
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08:12 | <demoTN> ok, thanks
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08:15 | <alkisg> demoTN: ok the epoptes server, let's see client side
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08:16 | From the ltsp server, run x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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08:16 | <demoTN> ok, can I start one?
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08:17 | done
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08:17 | <alkisg> I didn't get a connection... did you use a thin client to run that?
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08:17 | Try x11vnc -noshm -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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08:19 | <demoTN> No, I ran it from a terminal connection to ltsp-server
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08:20 | <alkisg> If you're using e.g. ssh, then you don't have access to the graphics display (X)
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08:20 | demoTN: never mind, go to the teacher pc
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08:21 | <demoTN> sure, sorry...
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08:31 | <demoTN> thank, I understand
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08:31 | <alkisg> demoTN: there was something wrong in the epoptes installation in the teacher pc
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08:32 | I don't know what, I didn't look, but reinstalling solved it
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08:32 | I'm closing the vnc windows...
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08:32 | <demoTN> ok, It's the first time a see this error
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08:33 | on other labs it works perfectly
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08:33 | <alkisg> (I closed vnc)
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08:35 | <demoTN> later I'll try a ltsp-update-image
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08:36 | thanks a lot, alkisg!
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08:36 | <alkisg> You're welcome
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16:16 | <Hyperbyte> Yo alkisg!
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16:17 | <alkisg> Heya
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16:17 | <Hyperbyte> How are you today?
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16:18 | <alkisg> As usual... trying in vain to find some free time to work on ltsp :)
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16:23 | <yisraeldov> Hello , I'm trying to get Guest Login from the client to log into a guest session on the server
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16:26 | <Hyperbyte> yisraeldov, we're all excited to hear this.
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16:26 | <yisraeldov> sorry...
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16:27 | does anyone have any experience with this ? I set up the "LDM_GUESTLOGIN = TRUE" but what username and password do I use to have it connect to the guest session.
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16:34 | <alkisg> Server side: sudo adduser guest01
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16:34 | lts.conf: LDM_USERNAME=guest01
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16:34 | LDM_PASSWORD=pass01
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16:34 | LDM_GUESTLOGIN=True
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16:35 | ...i.e. it's a normal account, it's not generated dynamically
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16:35 | <yisraeldov> right ...
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16:36 | is there a way to have a dynamically generated account ? or at least one that is restricted and wiped clean, like the ubuntu / lightdm guest sessions
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16:42 | <alkisg> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=1310986533.1915.3.camel@alkis&forum_name=ltsp-discuss
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16:42 | That's the "wipe clean" part
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16:45 | <yisraeldov> Excellent !
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17:50 | <major_ghz> bye
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