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09:50 | <muppis> Do I hit my head to wall if I install totem-plugin for local Firefox?
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10:02 | <Hyperbyte> muppis: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OI_-mOb8_uc/SYDguc2aHyI/AAAAAAAAA_8/WbFuWDvYbaQ/s400/stress_reduction_kit.jpg
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10:03 | <alkisg> bhh? BuHaHa... :D
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10:05 | <muppis> Thanks, I needed that. :)
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10:06 | So the problem is that qt videoclips doesn't work in local FF:
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10:07 | * alkisg wonders if, installing a whole fat chroot, and then only using it for thin clients + localapps, would help people in such cases | |
10:10 | <muppis> Maybe.
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10:11 | Can be this done just by installing ubuntu-desktop to chroot or does it brake everything?
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11:47 | <bakytn_> guys, is it wise to use UseStgraberPPA ? according to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/UseStgraberPPA
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11:49 | <alkisg> bakytn_: i don't think stgraber maintains a ppa anymore, please delete that wiki page or at least mention it there
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11:49 | <bakytn_> alkisg, ok doing this
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11:49 | <alkisg> *maintains an ltsp ppa, at least
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11:55 | <bakytn_> has anybody tried to use oneiric packages for Natty? Worked? :D
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11:56 | I mean the LTSP related packages
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11:56 | mm, I see that cluster realted packages have the same version numbers
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11:57 | * bakytn_ still fighting with slow UI responsivness in cluster environment | |
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12:09 | <mgariepy> bakytn_, do you have LDM_DIRECTX set to true in ltsp-control ?
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12:10 | <alkisg> bakytn_: there's a daily build ltsp ppa
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12:25 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, yes
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12:25 | mgariepy, hello sir! I also debugged it with tcpdump
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12:25 | now I am going to work place and continue my fight
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12:25 | need to run getltsconf -a in the client's xterm and check
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12:27 | <mario5> Hey out there, may anybody help me whit an problem. issue: mounting local/dev/ (USB-Flashdisk) on ltsp --- error while testing ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" <--- my data gives: Authentication failed. Any Idea.
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12:28 | <bakytn_> also quick question, I gave 30Gb of Ram to root node :D I think this is overkill, I should rather give more ram to app servers right?
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12:30 | <bakytn_> mario5 are you mounting by hand? not using udev?
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12:34 | <mgariepy> bakytn_, depending how much thin client you have i guess this is way overkill
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12:35 | i have a 4500 thin client deployment and i don't need that much memory on my ltsp-root server
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12:35 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, about 100 clients, root node is just a load balancer..so I can give 4 GB without any problems and increase number of app server and give more ram to them.
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12:35 | <mario5> @bakynt mounting by udev checklist: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebugLocalDev done.
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12:36 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, got it. Thank you :D
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12:36 | <mgariepy> bakytn_, yeah that would be ok with 4GB
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12:36 | what cpu do you have on your appserv ?
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12:37 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, Intel Xeon 2.8Ghz (it's a blade server actually)
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12:37 | mgariepy, a huge blade server all the services are on that blade server
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12:37 | mgariepy, but I will keep another 2 app servers on another physical blade server
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12:37 | <mgariepy> how many core total for the appserv ?
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12:37 | kk
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12:37 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, I gave 2 core per each app server
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12:38 | *2 cores
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12:38 | using GlusterFS for a NAS
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12:38 | and SAMBA4 for authentication
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12:39 | only two things killing me at the moment :D 1) CANON LBP printers 2) UI responsiveness
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12:40 | <mgariepy> you are using gnome-ui without compiz ?
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12:40 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, compiz was purged..apt-get remove compiz
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12:40 | mgariepy, compiz was purged..apt-get purge compiz
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12:40 | :D
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12:40 | <mgariepy> ok
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12:40 | <alkisg> bakytn_: that's not the actual package for compiz
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12:40 | <bakytn_> interesting..and annoying. But I will win this fight
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12:41 | <alkisg> It's compiz-core
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12:41 | <bakytn_> alkisg, but anyway...it worked fine on a standalone server when I was testing
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12:41 | alkisg, but I will purge it too :D
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12:41 | <alkisg> No need...
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12:41 | !disable-compiz
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12:41 | <ltsp> alkisg: disable-compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity.
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12:41 | <bakytn_> alkisg, thanks! written down.
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12:42 | <mgariepy> LDM_SESSION=gnome-session --session=2d-gnome
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12:42 | but you will need an updated package for ltsp in natty
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12:43 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, you mean backported from oneiric?
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12:44 | <mgariepy> no
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12:44 | <bakytn_> mgariepy, before I installed to natty I fully upgraded it (of course).You mean that it doesn't support LDM_SESSION?
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12:44 | <alkisg> !learn daily-builds as you can find untested daily builds for Ubuntu LTSP in https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+archive/daily
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12:44 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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12:44 | <mgariepy> LDM_SESSION in the natty package is buggy
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12:44 | <mario5> sorry, @bakytn_ mounting by udev,
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12:45 | <mgariepy> daily build won't work either i think since the change for nbd named images is in the trunk
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12:45 | <alkisg> mgariepy: that's not on by default, afaik... is it?
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12:45 | I tried it on my lucid box and it worked
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12:45 | <mgariepy> ho
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12:45 | i didn't knew
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12:46 | that's nice then :)
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12:46 | <alkisg> But I tested 1 month ago, I don't know if anything's changed since then
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12:48 | <mgariepy> revno: 1853, timestamp: Fri 2011-07-08 15:40:01 +0200
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12:49 | <alkisg> I'm using 5.2.8-0ubuntu3~ppa2-bzr1859-ex1779
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12:50 | (excluding 1779, the udhcp change which isn't available in lucid)
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12:50 | <alkisg> Until 1859 it works fine without named-based exports as the default in my lucid...
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12:51 | <mgariepy> great then :)
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12:54 | <alkisg> ...although something seems to have happened with the revision numbers, somehow they've been changed
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12:54 | Using the trunk from 2011-07-20 anyway
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12:55 | <mgariepy> bakytn_, if you want to use a ppa. you can use revolution-linux ppa on launchpad
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12:59 | <bakytn_> what is a TIMEOUT option in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/getltscfg-cluster.conf ?
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12:59 | it's 2 by default
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13:00 | <mgariepy> it's the timeout to get the configuration
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13:00 | 2 seconds should be enough but you can set it higher than this
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13:04 | <shawnp0wers> Holy buttspank on toast. After days of trying to modify the global Gnome menu, adding a custom launcher for rdesktop, I happened across this beauty: http://www.breaknenter.org/2010/10/share-menus-between-users-in-ubuntu/
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13:05 | If you need to add a custom launcher to the menu for all users, it's dead simple. I'm ashamed I didn't know this earlier.
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13:09 | <mgariepy> shawnp0wers, didn't edubuntu-menu-editor works?
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13:09 | <shawnp0wers> No, not even remotely.
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13:10 | It only rearranges existing menus, you can't add menu items
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13:10 | At least not that I could find.
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13:12 | <reuss_> hi, I am unable to login on my ltsp client after changing the host network configuration. What did I nuked?
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13:12 | <Appiah> did you ltsp-update-image and ltsp-update-sshkeys ?
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13:13 | maybe just the later is required
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13:13 | <reuss_> I get a "server response, restarting" message
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13:13 | appiah: thanks, I am trying it
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13:13 | <Appiah> "If you change the IP data after you have done the initial setup, please run the command sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys to make the ssh server aware of the change." from the wiki
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13:13 | <alkisg> !learn ltsp-update-sshkeys as If you changed your server IP, you need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys, and if you're using NBD (Ubuntu) you also need ltsp-update-image afterwards
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13:13 | <ltsp> alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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13:14 | <shawnp0wers> reuss_: that actually allows the rsyncing of chroots too, which saves tons of time.
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13:14 | if you have multiple servers
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13:14 | ie, rsync, then ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image
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13:14 | <Appiah> alkisg: gj!
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13:15 | <shawnp0wers> (I always ltsp-update-kernels too, not usually required, but never hurts)
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13:18 | <reuss_> alkisg, appiah, shanp0wers: thanks a lot, you did it. I am very pleased by the great help on that channel!
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13:19 | <mario5> May anybody help me whit an problem. issue: mounting local/dev/ (USB-Flashdisk) on ltsp --- mountig via udev --- error while testing ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_vt7_192.168.0.254 192.168.0.254 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add" <--- my data gives: Authentication failed. Any Idea.
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13:20 | <alkisg> mario5: distro/version?
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13:22 | <mario5> ubuntu 10.10 ltsp-server 5.2.4-0ubuntu6
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13:23 | <alkisg> !SCREEN_02
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13:23 | <ltsp> alkisg: SCREEN_02: to get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using%20a%20shell%20SCREEN.
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13:24 | <alkisg> mario5: get a root local shell to better troubleshoot the problem
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13:25 | <mario5> ssh acces to ltsp client arranged, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebugLocalDev done and all right.
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13:27 | <alkisg> OK, if you have ssh access to the client... can you manually mount the usb stick?
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13:27 | <alkisg> Or, what happens when you just plug it? What's the output of udevadm monitor?
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13:27 | That wiki page is a bit outdated
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13:28 | mario5: so, start with plugging stick and seeing the output of `mount`, from ssh
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13:29 | <mario5> alkisg: done ... stick is mounted
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13:29 | <alkisg> Automatically? Or manually?
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13:30 | <mario5> alkisg: Automatically
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13:30 | <alkisg> What file system it is?
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13:30 | Paste the output of `mount | grep /dev/sd`
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13:30 | <mario5> vfat / fat32
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13:32 | <mario5> alkisg: none
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13:32 | <alkisg> mario5: erm, then why did you say it was mounted? It's not a /dev/sd* device?
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13:33 | mario5: please use the pastebin to paste large text amounts, not PMs
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13:34 | !pastebin
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13:34 | <ltsp> alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here..
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13:34 | <alkisg> Based on what you pasted, the stick isn't mounted at all
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13:34 | But one minute ago you said it was automounted
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13:34 | Which of those is true?
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13:34 | (04:28:41 μμ) alkisg: mario5: so, start with plugging stick and seeing the output of `mount`, from ssh
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13:34 | (04:29:28 μμ) mario5: alkisg: done ... stick is mounted
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13:34 | (04:29:42 μμ) alkisg: Automatically? Or manually?
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13:34 | (04:30:05 μμ) mario5: alkisg: Automatically
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13:35 | Should I assume that the above were wrong, and that the stick is not mounted?
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13:37 | <mario5> mount gives me this sting about the stick: ltspfs on /media/root/usbdisk-sdb1 type fuse.ltspfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
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13:38 | <alkisg> mario5: that wasn't in the text you send me in the PM, what did you do to get it?
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13:39 | <mario5> mount ther are many more lines ..
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13:39 | <alkisg> OK let's start over
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13:39 | Before ltspfs starts working, your thin client needs to see the usb stick, to mount it
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13:39 | The grep command above said that your stick wasn't mounted
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13:40 | <mario5> right
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13:40 | <alkisg> So, to clear things up, paste the whole "/proc/mounts" file of the client, to pastebin
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13:40 | And give us the URL for your paste
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13:42 | <mario5> http://pastebin.com/MaqgX3At
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13:43 | <alkisg> mario5: and the stick is currently plugged in? what's the output of `blkid` ?
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13:44 | <mario5> http://pastebin.com/VuMFvhBr
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13:45 | <alkisg> mario5: so, the stick isn't being mounted, and you manually ran those 2 ltspfs commands, right?
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13:46 | They didn't happen automatically, you ran them while following the wiki, correct?
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13:47 | <mario5> i tried to ran the wiki post: ssh -X -S /var/run/ldm_socket_2264_149.201.76.6 149.201.76.6 "/usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter /tmp add"
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13:47 | the output is: Authentication failed.
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13:48 | <alkisg> OK. Now, from ssh, try: mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt; ls
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13:48 | Do you see your stick files/
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13:48 | ?
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13:48 | And, any warnings?
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13:49 | <dgroos> Good Morning.
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13:49 | <alkisg> Howdy dgroos
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13:50 | <dgroos> alkisg: Pretty good, and you?
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13:51 | <mario5> good morning, @alkisg no fiels. no warnings.
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13:51 | <alkisg> dgroos, fine - a bit of work, a bit of hanging around here... waiting for the afternoon to come :)
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13:51 | <dgroos> Good morning mario5
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13:51 | <alkisg> mario5: the usb stick is empty? can you create a folder, e.g. "mkdir /mnt/folder" ?
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13:52 | <dgroos> a bit? :D
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13:52 | On how many channels are you simultaneously helping some right now? ;)
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13:53 | <alkisg> Nah, just here - while waiting for some oneiric installation to finish, and then back to work... :_/
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13:53 | <mario5> alkisg: done .. this partion was empty
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13:54 | <alkisg> mario5: ah I just noticed that you have 2 partitions there, sorry
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13:54 | But why sdb1 and sdb4, instead of sdb2?
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13:54 | Try those: umount /mnt
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13:54 | fdisk /dev/sdb
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13:54 | And see if fdisk complains about your stick partition order
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13:57 | <mario5> /dev/sdb1 3 7712 7895040 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
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13:57 | /dev/sdb4 * 1 2 2032 eb BeOS fs
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13:58 | <alkisg> ...beos?!
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13:58 | And yeah, they're completely upside down
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13:58 | Can you reformat the stick?
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13:59 | <mario5> shure .. but i think sdb1 shoud work, ?
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14:00 | <alkisg> Probably... if you want to troubleshoot why a semi-broken stick doesn't semi-work though.... I'm not your man, /me never uses localdevs...
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14:00 | <mario5> i'll go to reformate ...
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14:01 | <alkisg> Delete both partitions with gparted, and create 1 single fat32 partition
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14:01 | Mark it lba + bootable
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14:02 | <Blinny> Anyone know how to enable compiz for a single user/workstation off the top of your head? Call me crazy, but I like having transparent terminal windows so I can see background things like logs or IRC while programming.
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14:03 | <alkisg> Blinny: how did you disable compiz?
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14:03 | <Blinny> alkisg: using the command in !disable_compiz
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14:03 | <alkisg> Blinny: that puts it in the mandatory settings, so you can't reenable it for anyone
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14:03 | You'd need to move it to the default settings, or completely, and then reenable compiz for that user
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14:04 | <Blinny> Ah hA!
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14:04 | <alkisg> Blinny: if all your users logged in once since you disabled compiz, they got the setting
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14:04 | <Blinny> !disable_compiz
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14:04 | <ltsp> Blinny: disable_compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity.
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14:04 | <alkisg> So you can delete the setting now (restore_compiz)
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14:04 | And then from your "effects" tab in the settings, you can enable compiz for you
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14:04 | <Blinny> Understood. Thank you.
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14:05 | <alkisg> !restore_compiz
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14:05 | <ltsp> alkisg: restore_compiz: if you disabled compiz by running the command suggested by the !compiz factoid, and you want to revert the change, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --recursive-unset /desktop/gnome/session/required_components.
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14:05 | <Blinny> !enable_compiz
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14:05 | <ltsp> Blinny: Error: "enable_compiz" is not a valid command.
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14:06 | <dgroos> I'm trying to get a classroom of dell optiplex gx270 to auto pie boot. I've enabled all that the Dell help pages say to enable, put things in the correct order, but… still won't auto boot.
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14:07 | <dgroos> anyone successful with this?
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14:07 | <dgroos> *pxe
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14:08 | <Blinny> Thank you alkisg
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14:09 | dgroos: What are they doing?
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14:10 | <dgroos> Blinny: When I boot the client, it goes through normal bios, tries to boot, then can't and says hit F1 to try again, F2 to boot.
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14:11 | <Blinny> dgroos: any messages about media connected / disconnected? When I boot my dells I turn everything off except the NIC.
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14:11 | dgroos: Also, in the dell bios you have to turn the NIC to 'On w/ MBA', not just 'On'
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14:12 | <dgroos> If I hit F12 during bios I see that "Normal" is always in the first position, Integrated NIC is in the second--haven't been able to change that.
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14:13 | <mario5> alkisg: disk refomated, and newly plugedin
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14:13 | <dgroos> Blinny: I've turned off all the devices except the nic and put the nic in position number 1...
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14:13 | <alkisg> mario5: And current output of `fdisk -l /dev/sdb` ?
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14:13 | <Blinny> Are you sure the NIC is good? I've had my GX110 NICs go wonky and require a card.
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14:14 | <dgroos> …and in bios I selected the Integrated NIC w/pxe (didn't see w/MBA but I'll check that).
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14:14 | <Blinny> Maybe yours uses different language.
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14:15 | <mario5> now its sdc http://pastebin.com/6ssch8QH
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14:16 | <dgroos> If I select F12, then option #2 (which is Integrated NIC) the client boots w/PXE perfectly so not thinking this is a NIC issue--also, same on many (if not all) of these 'new' computers.
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14:17 | hmmm… maybe I'll disconnect the power and remove the battery for a bit… (shot in the dark :))
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14:17 | <Blinny> What is option 1?
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14:17 | Oh. 'Normal'
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14:17 | <dgroos> Option 1 is "Normal". I can't seem to get that to change
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14:17 | right.
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14:18 | <Blinny> That is pretty odd.
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14:18 | <dgroos> Is this when one hits a CMOS button or something?
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14:18 | <Blinny> And pretty dell-specific. I'm sorry but I haven't hit that one myself.
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14:19 | BRB
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14:19 | <dgroos> I was wondering about updating to a newer driver, but it says to install it you either use windows or dos. Is there another way I wonder?
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14:26 | <mario5> alkisg?
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14:31 | <alkisg> bbl
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14:32 | <Blinny> !disable_compiz
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14:32 | <ltsp> Blinny: disable_compiz: To disable compiz for all users, run: sudo gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager metacity.
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14:43 | <bakytn> OMG I don't know what happened. I just started my cluster environment. and things are fast :D
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14:44 | just came to my workplace and started my machines.
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14:44 | (:
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15:07 | guys! when client loads. it first show ltsp-client-info why? can't it just pick his app server and show LDM directly?
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15:07 | I'm talking about cluster setup of course
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15:20 | <mgariepy> bakytn, because your thin client is in the root node directly
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15:20 | create another node and move your thin client to it and it won't bother you again ! ;)
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15:24 | <bakytn> mgariepy, aaaa got it!!!
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15:26 | by the way guys, FreeRDP 1.0 is going to be released in a week or two with RemoteApp support :D
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15:26 | will test it today, will see how it is better than rdesktop 1.7 + SeamlessRDP
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15:28 | <markit> bakytn: mm never heard about FreeRDP, is much better than rdesktop?
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15:29 | <bakytn> mgariepy, it's a fork, as they say it's being very actively developed and has improvements (rdesktop is not very active)
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15:30 | mgariepy, I am subscirbed to their mailing list and FreeRDP 1.0 contain many cool features and RemoteApp is one of them
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15:30 | *contains
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15:31 | <markit> bakytn: I see (I'm markit and not mgariepy , mind the tab completion ;)
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15:31 | <bakytn> markit, ah..lol, yes.
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15:36 | <bakytn> ok, the last fight is the fight versus Canon LBP printers (so hard to get them working lol)
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15:37 | <tastle73> anybody have experience with ELO touchscreens?
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17:59 | <Gadi> mgariepy: do you know of a bug with ltsp-cluster where the client will receive an LDM_SESSION from the control center but then use "default" (basically ignoring it)
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18:00 | mgariepy: in particular this is with autologin
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18:00 | perhaps the bug is in ldm not sourcing the vars properly....
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18:05 | <mgariepy> Gadi, yes
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18:05 | the bug is the comparaison of the string
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18:05 | a recent ldm fix this
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18:06 | <Gadi> ah ok
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18:06 | I am fixing it by simply sourcing the cached lts.conf file in an X00-* file in rc.d
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18:07 | do you recall where your fix was made?
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18:07 | <mgariepy> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ldm-trunk/revision/1383
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18:08 | stephane tries to compate the strings with "str1" == "str2" but it needed g_strcomp0
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18:08 | <Gadi> got it
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18:09 | I am guessing that ldm is not backported to lucid
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18:09 | let me see what version I have here
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18:09 | <stgraber> Gadi: it's
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18:09 | Gadi: well, sorta
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18:09 | Gadi: https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+archive/daily
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18:09 | <mgariepy> haha :)
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18:10 | !daily build
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18:10 | <ltsp> mgariepy: I do not know about 'daily build', but I do know about these similar topics: 'daily-builds'
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18:10 | <mgariepy> !daily-builds
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18:10 | <ltsp> mgariepy: daily-builds: you can find untested daily builds for Ubuntu LTSP in https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/+archive/daily.
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18:10 | <Gadi> heh
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18:10 | nice
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18:11 | <stgraber> Gadi: it's untested though and almost certain ltsp won't boot on lucid, ldm and ltspfs should be fine though
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18:47 | <Hyperbyte> bakytn: crystal
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18:48 | <bakytn> Hyperbyte, hi, I wanted to type /clear
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19:02 | <tastle73> anyboy had success with touchscreens in LTSP5?
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19:17 | <mnemoc> hi, does PRINTER_0_NAME still exist? it's not mentioned in http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/lts.conf.5.html ... does it setup a local cups server or it's black magic straight into the cups client?
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19:18 | s/does it/does PRINTER_0_DEVICE/
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19:23 | * _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat | |
19:24 | <_UsUrPeR_> I am having a problem with alsa/pulse on clients
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19:25 | when I set sound levels with asound.conf in /var/lib/alsa on the client image, pulse audio seems to be taking precedence and lowering master volume
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19:25 | Is there a way to keep pulse audio from changing alsa sound output settings?
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19:26 | technically, pulse is not changing the sound settings. It apperas to be overriding them
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19:26 | gadi: ping? ^^
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19:27 | <Gadi> _UsUrPeR_: do you need pulse?
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19:27 | you can set SOUND=False
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19:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: no. I would prefer it does not rear it's ugly head
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19:27 | <Gadi> so, set SOUND=False in lts.conf
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19:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> strangely enough, putting sound=false in lts.conf stops sound from working all together
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19:27 | <Gadi> then you do need pulse
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19:27 | :)
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19:28 | * _UsUrPeR_ shakes his fist at pulse | |
19:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> strangely enough, I am running the soft phone as a local app
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19:28 | <Gadi> anyway, the volumes are set with a call to configure_sound_volume
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19:28 | which is in /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
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19:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> ORLY
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19:28 | that's an lts.conf setting?
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19:28 | <Gadi> and the call to it is in /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-*
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19:29 | yeah
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19:29 | I forget if we added a way to not have it set
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19:29 | because by default it uses 90% volume
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19:29 | iirc
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19:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: care to explain the /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common file? I am not seeing it in existence over here
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19:29 | <bakytn> interestingly, when you scroll the web page in Firefox in thin client it works very fast and smooth. WHile in Chrome it's jerky
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19:30 | <Gadi> maybe my brain is not working
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19:30 | let me see
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19:30 | <_UsUrPeR_> woop nm
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19:30 | chroot :)
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19:31 | <Gadi> ah
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19:31 | its there right?
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19:31 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, see, the weird part is: the volume setting for pulse audio should be at 90%
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19:31 | you are right
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19:32 | however, it's setting itself at, like, 10%
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19:32 | <Gadi> well, it will try for 90%
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19:32 | sometimes audio drivers do weird things
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19:32 | but, anyway, try taking out the call to it in /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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19:32 | <_UsUrPeR_> stranger still: using ltsp-localapps alsamixergui, I can turn it back up to 100% no problem
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19:33 | <Gadi> well, thats not strange
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19:33 | thats good
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19:33 | :)
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19:33 | * Gadi applauds Hyperbyte's reference to a few good men, btw | |
19:33 | <_UsUrPeR_> that's great. except for it needs to be set the first time sot hat users don't have to manually adjust it every time a client boots
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19:34 | <Gadi> right
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19:34 | well, we have two things that compete
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19:34 | our setting of audio
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19:34 | and the usual setting of audio
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19:34 | :)
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19:34 | so, disable ours
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19:34 | <_UsUrPeR_> agreed. I wouldn't even be using alsamixer at all, except for it's required to shut off sound output through our client's PC speaker
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19:34 | <Gadi> and see what you get
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19:35 | thats silly
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19:35 | there's a driver you can blacklist for that
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19:35 | :)
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19:36 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, so in blacklist.conf...
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19:36 | <Gadi> does he have pcspkr loaded on the client?
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19:36 | (in lsmod)
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19:36 | <_UsUrPeR_> lsmod |grep speaker on client -- no results
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19:37 | <Gadi> lsmod|grep pcspkr
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19:37 | oh - what am I saying - if alsamixer turns it off, then it is going through the soundcard
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19:37 | nm
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19:37 | what channel is it that you have to turn off?
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19:38 | <_UsUrPeR_> there's two channels actually
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19:38 | Master Front (sound output from the client), and Mic (sound output from the mic is echoed through the speakers)
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19:39 | both result in a frustrating phone conversation if left enabled :)
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19:39 | I already suggested that the client be put between two pillows, but the customer didn't like that at all ;)
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19:40 | <Gadi> so set this:
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19:41 | MASTER_FRONT_VOLUME = 0
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19:41 | MIC_VOLUME = 0
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19:41 | in lts.conf
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19:41 | done
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19:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> should I remove the asound.conf?
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19:42 | <Gadi> probably
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19:43 | <_UsUrPeR_> rebuilding image now
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19:43 | will the changes be evident in alsamixer?
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19:43 | or is this a pulse thing?
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19:43 | for the record, pulse only had two settings: master and mic
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19:44 | <Gadi> alsamixer should see it
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19:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> neither of these had to do with the PC speakers
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19:44 | ok
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19:44 | rebooting
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19:46 | <_UsUrPeR_> BY ODIN'S BEARD IT APPEARS TO HAVE WORKED!
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19:46 | * _UsUrPeR_ tests out sound now | |
19:46 | <Gadi> lol
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19:46 | good thing we coded it that way
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19:46 | brb
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19:48 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: ok, so you are correct. It *APPEARS* that it worked, looking at the alsamixer settings
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19:49 | wait. this is strange
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19:53 | ok, looking better
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19:55 | Gadi: now there are two volume controls for headphone and PMC that need to be increased. I just changed the lts.conf (HEADPHONE_VOLUME = 100, MIC_VOLUME = 100) no dice
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19:56 | <Gadi> PMC?
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19:56 | is that the name of the channel?
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19:57 | you need the exact channel names
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19:57 | so: PMC_VOLUME
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19:57 | for example
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19:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> err I am sorry -- PCM_VOLUME
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19:57 | mis-type
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19:58 | <Gadi> then, PCM_VOLUME
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19:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> so HEADPHONE_VOLUME = 100 and PCM_VOLUME = 100
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19:58 | I have those both set in lts.conf, but no results
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19:58 | <Gadi> alternatively, you can simply set:
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19:58 | VOLUME = 100
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19:58 | MASTER_FRONT_VOLUME = 0
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19:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> mmmhmm
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19:58 | lemme try that
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19:58 | <Gadi> MIC_VOLUME = 0
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19:59 | then any channel other than the two you set to 0 will be 100
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19:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok cool
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19:59 | <Gadi> (VOLUME is the default for all channels)
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19:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> gotcha
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19:59 | I hope this turns the volume to "facecrush"
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20:02 | gadi: hmm. bummer. the mic and front speaker are set to 0 (good. Everything else is set to 100 (good), but "Headphone, PCM, and Front are all set to defauls (bad :/)
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20:02 | <Gadi> hmm
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20:03 | that is odd
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20:03 | can you get a shell on the client?
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20:03 | <_UsUrPeR_> yes I can
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20:03 | I am in it now
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20:03 | as root
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20:03 | <Gadi> great
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20:04 | do: . /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
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20:04 | then: export HEADPHONE_VOLUME=100
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20:04 | then: configure_sound_volume
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20:04 | and check the sound
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20:05 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: that worked
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20:05 | <Gadi> hmm
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20:05 | then, it should have worked on boot too
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20:05 | you must have something else that is changing it
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20:05 | maybe after you log in?
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20:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> :C
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20:06 | running iceWM, btw
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20:06 | <Gadi> how about this:
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20:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> not too much installed in the way of things that change volume at the moment
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20:06 | <Gadi> . /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp_config
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20:06 | env|grep VOLUME
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20:06 | oops
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20:07 | yeah
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20:07 | that's what I meant
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20:07 | <_UsUrPeR_> (for the record, gnome is not installed on here at all
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20:07 | )
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20:07 | <Gadi> no worries
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20:08 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi, ok. env |grep volume shows the following
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20:08 | MASTER_FRONT_VOLUME=0, VOLUME=100, MIC_VOLUME=0
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20:10 | <Gadi> ok, now do: configure_sound_volume
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20:10 | and check again
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20:10 | (i mean check the levels)
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20:12 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: configure_sound_volume, for some reason, is no longer in path
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20:13 | <Gadi> . /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
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20:13 | <_UsUrPeR_> Gadi: ok, now that worked
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20:14 | Gadi: these volume levels are set prior to and post-login. Not sure what would set them at this point.
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20:16 | works great though
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20:17 | should I just set up a script in xinitrc.d or something?
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20:25 | * _UsUrPeR_ just makes a script | |
20:34 | <Gadi> sorry - fire needing attention
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20:34 | what do you mean it is set pre-/post- login?
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20:34 | you must have added a script somewhere
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20:35 | because volumes are by default only set on boot
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20:35 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi: ok, the pre/post comment. You are saying somehow the client is changing it's volume after it's been set
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20:35 | I am saying it occurs before xinitrc.d is executed
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20:35 | that's all
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20:38 | gadi: no big deal. I just put together a script in xinitrc.d on the client image which runs configure_sound_volume . It works fine
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21:00 | <mnemoc> can anyone enlighten me about local printers? I can't get PRINTER_n_* do anything :-/
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21:03 | <abeehc_> i have a couple working
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21:04 | usb at least http://pastebin.com/ptdjqGqu
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21:04 | ltsp5
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21:16 | <mnemoc> abeehc_: beside installing `cups`, what did you need to get it detected? btw, my printer is parallel and need it simply raw for some apps running in doxemu
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21:16 | dosemu*
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21:18 | <abeehc_> well I have cups on the server but i don't think that's strictly neccesary
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21:18 | OH what version of distro/ltsp are you using
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21:18 | i forgot sometimes the client chroot doesn't get some python serial package that's needed
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21:19 | but ultimately that stanza in lts.conf causes a python script in the client chroot to run and listen on 9100 like a normal jetdirect printer
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21:20 | so if you have your client root acocunt unlcoked you can test with it booted
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21:20 | the result of that usb thing on my client is /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/jetpipe -b 9600 -y 8 -p none -x /dev/usb/lp0 9100
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21:21 | so lookin at that script and trying to run it is where you'd wanna look.. there's no need for cups anywhere you could add the driver to windows or whatever
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21:21 | i'm not so familiar with dosemu and your use to guess how that plays for you
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21:26 | <mnemoc> abeehc_: I have whatever is in ubuntu 11.04...
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21:27 | dosemu just triggers lpr -PFoo with a text file that goes raw to the printer
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21:27 | <abeehc_> word well look at that python script i think it's the pertinent part even in 11.04
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21:29 | <mnemoc> /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/jetpipe -b 9600 -y 8 -p none -x /dev/lp0 9100 returned nothing and $? 0
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21:29 | is that good?
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21:30 | <abeehc_> it'll background
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21:30 | that's good i think it means you have that python-serial package
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21:30 | is /dev/lp0 accurate in your case?
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21:32 | <mnemoc> yes, ls > /dev/lp0 on a local shell works
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21:32 | <abeehc_> good stuff
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21:32 | <abeehc_> if you do "ps aux|grep jetpipe" you should see the python script running
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21:33 | <mnemoc> yes
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21:33 | <abeehc_> at which point you can print over the network to port 9100
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21:33 | again where dosemu fits i dunno
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21:35 | in my case once that script's running, i install a printer on my cups server (actually that's not my ltsp server)
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21:35 | <mnemoc> I kind of fall on the same problem... I local cups to recognize the printer
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21:35 | <abeehc_> is dosemu running locally?
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21:35 | <mnemoc> yes
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21:35 | <abeehc_> then i don't see why you'd need this script, nor cups
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21:36 | <mnemoc> good point... I'll check If I can give dosemu the dev directly
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21:36 | <abeehc_> word i did a quick google for docs along that line and came up with nothing
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21:36 | but yeah i'd imagine you just tell dosemu /dev/lp0 provided you don't need some complicated driver
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21:41 | <mnemoc> abeehc_: so PRINTER_n_* sets up this jetpipe daemon?
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21:41 | <abeehc_> yeah exactly
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21:41 | there's nothin more too it
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21:42 | just a way to expose the printer on a client over the network without installing cups i guess you'd say
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21:42 | <mnemoc> :D
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22:00 | <mnemoc> btw, can one use this jetpipe tool with raw printers?
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22:01 | (dot matrix)
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22:02 | <abeehc_> yeah very much so i'd think; i'd guess you could almost print with netcat in that case
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22:02 | <mnemoc> neat :)
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22:02 | <abeehc_> but installing on a print server be it cups or windows you just select the generic print driver or whatever and it should work well
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22:02 | more advanced printers are the pain in that you need binary crap drivers i think
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22:03 | then again anyone on your lan could print with netcat :)
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22:03 | <abeehc_> i guess that's the case with that script nomatter what printer you have behind it so nevermind
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22:03 | <mnemoc> :)
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22:10 | awesome, it's working like a charm
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22:10 | <abeehc_> good stuff glad to help
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22:11 | <mnemoc> thanks a lot :)
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23:43 | <TheMatrix3000> anyone here good at bash scriptiong
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23:43 | scripting*?
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