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Channel log from 23 July 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:26 | <cliebow> Gadi Rocks!!
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| 08:53 | <Q-FUNK> !g
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| 08:53 | <ltspbot> Q-FUNK: "g" is Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:56 | <Gadi> !Q
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| 08:56 | <ltspbot> Gadi: "Q" is Q-FUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 08:58 | <ogra> kids ....
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| 08:58 | <lejo> ;-)
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| 09:00 | <stgraber> ogra: italc 1.0.9 is out, it's basically exactly rc4 :) I'll package it, then we can upload it to Intrepid and request a backport for Hardy
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| 09:00 | <ogra> good
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| 09:00 | i dont know how well the upload bandwith is at freegeek though
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| 09:01 | <ogra> ah, wait we have the orig.tag.gz anyway, that should be fine then
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| 09:52 | <nate66s> can anyone tell me if there's anything special that needs to be done to get ITALC running on the clients?
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| 10:05 | <cyberorg> nate66s, nothing
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| 10:06 | nate66s, what distro?
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| 10:06 | <nate66s> cyberorg: italc-master can't connect to the clients, so i'm screwing something up somewhere
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| 10:06 | <ogra> depends which version :)
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| 10:06 | <nate66s> cyberorg: hardy
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| 10:06 | <ogra> the package from stgraber's PPA has avahi integration and will autodetect the clients
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| 10:07 | the one shipped in 8.04.1 needs you to add the clients to a classroom
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| 10:07 | <cyberorg> ogra, that need something to be installed and activated in the chroot?
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| 10:07 | <nate66s> ogra: i did that, yet still nothing
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| 10:07 | <ogra> with <serverip>:11<last bit of client ip>
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| 10:08 | or 10<last bit of client ip>
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| 10:08 | i'm never sure about that port :/
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| 10:08 | <nate66s> ogra: ah, ok
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| 10:13 | <nate66s> ogra: it's still not connecting
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| 10:14 | <ogra> but you have a user logged in on a client, right ?
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| 10:14 | <nate66s> yes
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| 10:14 | <ogra> it will only connect to a running desktop session
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| 10:15 | <nate66s> my clients are set up to auto login
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| 10:15 | <ogra> with different users i hope
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| 10:15 | <nate66s> yup
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| 10:15 | <ogra> (not sure how italc would like the same user all over the place :) )
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| 10:16 | <nate66s> lol, probably not at all
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| 10:26 | <nate66s> ogra: can't seem to find any italc packages in stgraber's ppa
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| 10:27 | <ogra> he is just rolling 1.0.9 packages wait a bit :)
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| 10:28 | <ltsppbot> "jorge_zer0" pasted "Connec Client LTSP Log Error" (279 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/37
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| 10:34 | <nate66s> ogra: ah, ty!
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| 10:51 | <stgraber> nate66s: look for the edubuntu-italc-devel team on LP, that's where I upload my packages
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| 10:52 | <nate66s> stgraber: great, ty
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| 10:52 | <stgraber> https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-italc-devel/+archive
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| 10:52 | <nate66s> stgraber: i just tried running italc from the command line and whenever i add a client, the shell spits out a "[critical] not a server i can deal with" error
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| 10:52 | <stgraber> I plan to upload the final 1.0.9 in 3-4 hours, I have a meeting to prepare first and then do some QA on the new packages
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| 10:53 | <stgraber> nate66s: your clients are running ica not x11vnc right ?
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| 10:53 | <nate66s> the source makes it appear to be a protocol mismatch
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| 10:53 | stgraber: that's correct
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| 10:53 | <stgraber> maybe something wrong with the port number or ica crashed
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| 10:54 | we found some serious bugs in the VNC server that are now solved since 1.0.9-rc4
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| 10:54 | <jammcq> Gadi: hey, arent' you traveling today?
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| 10:55 | <nate66s> ok, cool.. i'll try the newer packages and see if that helps
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| 11:26 | <jorge_zer0> hi everyone... i'm having problems with my client... it doesn't finish bot... i have some OIL(?) error... anyone know this error?
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| 12:55 | <Gadi> jammcq: flight's not till 7:30PM
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| 14:02 | <Lns> Hey all
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| 14:06 | At the risk of starting a flamewar, can anyone give me some real-world experience of how AMD stacks up against Intel for LTSP servers (ubuntu hardy) ? Any insight?
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| 14:07 | Say, an Athlon X2 4200+ vs. Core 2 Duo E4500 ?
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| 14:09 | <johnny_> is that even worth starting a flamewar over?
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| 14:09 | lemme know when you change from it
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| 14:09 | oops
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| 14:10 | <Lns> johnny_, I dunno, is it? ;)
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| 14:10 | <johnny> i don't think it is anymore
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| 14:10 | i doubt you're gonna find much different
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| 14:11 | they are both good choices, just pick what you get a better deal on
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| 14:11 | or what has a mobo with a better chipset
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| 14:11 | <Lns> well i've got 2 choices here that i'm looking at on ebay..the AMD is $100 less, otherwise besides the chipset they're identical 1U servers
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| 14:12 | http://cgi.ebay.com/Rackmount-Specialists-1U-Intel-Core-2-Duo-E4500-Server_W0QQitemZ200208485499QQihZ010QQcategoryZ71514QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 -vs- http://cgi.ebay.com/Rackmount-Specialists-1U-AMD-Athlon-X2-4200-Server_W0QQitemZ200208485314QQihZ010QQcategoryZ71514QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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| 14:13 | Has anyone had issues with 64-bit LTSP server vs. i386 clients?
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| 14:13 | (with Hardy)
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| 14:13 | or is it still advisable to use i386 server
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| 14:15 | <johnny> uhmm.. yeah.. with flash
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| 14:16 | hopefully intrepid will have flash 10
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| 14:16 | <Lns> always with the flash ;)
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| 14:16 | <johnny> and that works with pulseaudio, so your problems will be minimized hopefully
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| 14:16 | <Lns> nice
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| 14:16 | <johnny> if not, i'd suggest upgrading to flash10 outside of the distro
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| 14:17 | <Lns> flash10 is still in beta, right?
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| 14:18 | how's its performance vs flash9.0r124?
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| 14:19 | * sutula doesn't have any answers to Lns's questions, but is also interested in the answers, as he needs to set up a similar system | |
| 14:20 | * sutula also wonders about kvm running atop ltsp on the AMD or Intel CPU's...whether the use of kvm might dictate using one or the other | |
| 14:20 | <johnny> uhmm.. i'm just using it on my desktop so my videos will have sound, not sure if it crashes any less
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| 14:20 | they need the certain extension
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| 14:20 | both should have it
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| 14:20 | but why run kvm?
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| 14:21 | then again, the freegeek folks use xen i think
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| 14:22 | <sutula> johnny: I've not researched it, but kvm seems to be the choice these days when you "have to" run a certain windoze app
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| 14:23 | * sutula is very open to other ideas/experiences | |
| 14:24 | <johnny> really? i thought it was vmware
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| 14:24 | or virtualbox
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| 14:25 | <Lns> I'm using both vmware server and virtualbox
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| 14:25 | they both run well, though vmware seems to run faster and has more features
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| 14:25 | both are free
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| 14:25 | (vmware SERVER that is)
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| 14:26 | <vagrantc> xen kind of seems to be a dead-end technology... if you can get hardware supported by kvm, go with that.
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| 14:27 | * sutula nods | |
| 14:30 | <johnny> not Free tho
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| 14:30 | virtualbox is Free if you don't mind the lack of usb .. :(
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| 14:31 | <vagrantc> i haven't tried it in a while, but qemu + kqemu modules weren't all that bad.
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| 14:32 | that should support usb
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| 14:32 | <johnny> vagrantc, i'm sure it does.. but where's the nice gui :)
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| 14:33 | virtualbox makes it too easy
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| 14:33 | <vagrantc> i've mostly been using virtualbox lately
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| 14:33 | <Lns> vmware has a very nice gui as well
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| 14:33 | * vagrantc just doesn't consider non-free options when the free options work good enough | |
| 14:33 | <Lns> and has some pretty nice networking features, plus guest auto-start with host
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| 14:34 | <johnny> vagrantc, i agree
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| 14:34 | until i really need usb support
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| 14:34 | <Lns> vagrantc, you mean F/OSS .. ?
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| 14:34 | <johnny> i wonder if somebody will make a patch for usb support for the free version..
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| 14:34 | it could happen..
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| 14:35 | <vagrantc> Lns: free as in freedom.
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| 14:35 | <vagrantc> johnny: more than could, i suspect it will be likely
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| 14:36 | <Lns> vagrantc, what about http://www.vmware.com/download/open_source.html ?
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| 14:37 | <johnny> i clicked on the desktop product
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| 14:37 | doesn't look free to me
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| 14:37 | <vagrantc> Lns: just looks like a list of products to me ... what does it mean?
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| 14:37 | <Lns> right - the desktop apparently isn't free
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| 14:37 | vagrantc, when you click on a product you can download a .tar file or request a CD of modified source
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| 14:38 | <johnny> hmm.. if there is no svn/cvs/git/mtn/bzr/ etc... then i don't really think it is that free
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| 14:38 | <Lns> bah
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| 14:38 | <johnny> it means no proper patches
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| 14:38 | no way to see why or how something was done
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| 14:39 | no way to find out what introduced the bug you found
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| 14:39 | <Lns> I was merely pointing out the fact that vmware actually does offer their source code to the public
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| 14:42 | <johnny> yeah.. just as much as apple it sounds like, and just as hard to integrate :(
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| 14:42 | altho they might be doing better
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| 14:42 | the webkit situation was a mess for awhile, you'd just end up with a large drop of code, with no reasoning in how it got to the way it was
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| 14:43 | which kinda makes it hard to actually work with
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| 14:43 | <vagrantc> Lns: that is a tiny part of open source, and one reason i don't like the term open source
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| 14:44 | <johnny> Lns, you say bah, but you don't have to work with this junk :)
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| 14:44 | vagrantc, i think it is better than free.. free is too easily misused
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| 14:44 | prolly need a better phrase/word
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| 14:45 | libre is closest i guess..
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| 14:46 | <vagrantc> johnny: free as in freedom explains it pretty well.
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| 14:46 | johnny: but yes, many other languages make a better distinction
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| 14:47 | johnny: open source was basically an attempt to make free software palatable to businessfolk... which isn't a problem in itself, but it's not where i'm coming from.
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| 14:48 | <johnny> well, you are reaping some of the benefits i'd imagine
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| 14:49 | <vagrantc> surely
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| 14:49 | <johnny> sometimes.. i actually have a hard time using the term free software tho
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| 14:50 | since the only true free software in my vision of freedom, is public domain
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| 14:52 | <sutula> johnny: Getting to be off-topic here, I suppose, but public domain does nothing to keep it free, so (I suppose) that's why people tend toward licenses
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| 14:52 | <johnny> sure.. the licenses are great
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| 14:52 | i use em
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| 14:52 | * sutula sees johnny's point, though as well | |
| 14:52 | <johnny> i guess the most widely known public domain software of the current era would be sqlite
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| 14:53 | i don't know too many people who public their intellectual property under public domain
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| 14:53 | peter saint-andre of jabber/xmpp fame tends to use public domain for alot of his writings
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| 14:54 | it was cool meeting him in real life
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| 14:57 | <Lns> I'm having trouble seeing the benefit of having OSS *and* BSD style licenses...and I need to go so I don't expect to respond to anyone, but imho (and yes, ianap) BSD style licenses allow everything open source does, plus if someone wants to use it in a proprietary product without giving away their changes they can do so as well. That doesn't necessarily mean they're stealing and not giving back...but in the business world (and i'm not defending or offending this),
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| 14:57 | business people might find it better to "give back" monetarily and not by giving away the code. Which I don't think is a bad thing, either. You get whatever people want to give back. But it, imho, is still compatible with OSS because everyone who WANTS to participate and give back CAN.
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| 14:57 | ok...i'm sorry for all of that. I'll be back later...
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| 15:00 | <vagrantc> public domain may not hold up in a court of law, whereas a free software license will.
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| 15:02 | <johnny> Lns, you're about 5 years too late on making that business case
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| 15:02 | those objections don't seem to be stopping adoption
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| 15:10 | <ninkendo> Is there a good way to verify if you're using LDM_DIRECTX in LTSP 5?
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| 15:11 | I verify that I have no processes running on the server, then I log in on my thin client, and I still see a process in ps that says "sshd: simon23 [priv]"
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| 15:11 | (simon23 is my username)
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| 15:11 | and I'm wondering why sshd would be running if I'm using directx
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| 15:11 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: it still uses ssh to log in, even with LDM_DIRECTX
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| 15:12 | <ninkendo> ok
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| 15:12 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: best was is: echo $DISPLAY
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| 15:12 | ninkendo: if it's an ip address, it's using LDM_DIRECTX, if it says localhost, it's not using LDM_DIRECTX
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| 15:12 | <ninkendo> localhost:11.0
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| 15:12 | hmm
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| 15:12 | but I have LDM_DIRECTX=True in lts.conf
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| 15:12 | <johnny> try just T
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| 15:13 | <ninkendo> O_o
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| 15:13 | <johnny> i think the parser isn't as friendly as it used to be
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| 15:13 | <vagrantc> johnny: what?!
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| 15:13 | <johnny> quotes used to work :)
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| 15:13 | <vagrantc> johnny: that sounds like a major bug.
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| 15:13 | <johnny> remember :)
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| 15:13 | vagrantc, it was just a suggestion
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| 15:13 | i don't know if that is the case, as i always use T
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| 15:13 | <ninkendo> trying
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| 15:13 | <johnny> but, if you recall, you used to be able to use quotes
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| 15:13 | <vagrantc> johnny: ok.
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| 15:14 | no idea on the quotes.
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| 15:14 | <johnny> i tried reading the lexer code, waaay above my head
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| 15:15 | <ninkendo> johnny: still localhost:11.0
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| 15:15 | <johnny> just coverin the bases
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| 15:16 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: what linux distro and release are you using?
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| 15:16 | sounds to me like lts.conf isn't being processed, more likely.
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| 15:17 | <ninkendo> vagrantc: ubuntu hardy
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| 15:17 | pretty stock install
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| 15:18 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: where is your lts.conf ?
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| 15:18 | <ninkendo> it's on a windows tftp server
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| 15:18 | * vagrantc smiles | |
| 15:18 | <ninkendo> the same one that does our boot menu
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| 15:18 | <vagrantc> i'm guessing there's an issue there
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| 15:18 | <ninkendo> well, I'd hope you'd be wrong
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| 15:18 | since we're able to load the kernel and pxelinux.cfg off that server
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| 15:19 | <vagrantc> well, it downloads lts.conf via tftp, and there's been issues with non-standard tftp servers.
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| 15:19 | binary mode vs. netascii
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| 15:20 | <ninkendo> I'm pretty sure this was happening before we moved the tftp root to the windows server
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| 15:20 | at what point during the boot process does lts.conf get processed?
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| 15:20 | once ldm launches?
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| 15:21 | and, is it copied to the thin client's root fs first?
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| 15:21 | <vagrantc> it's downloaded in the initramfs and copied to the root filesystem
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| 15:21 | <ninkendo> I'm wondering if I can edit anything on the thin client to test it without rebooting, so we can rule things out
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| 15:21 | does it need to be built into the initramfs?
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| 15:21 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: try this: SCREEN_07=shell
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| 15:21 | ninkendo: should stop ldm from starting at all.
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| 15:22 | <ninkendo> trying
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| 15:23 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: also, go ahead and paste your lts.conf to the pastebot:
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| 15:23 | !pastebot
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| 15:23 | <ltspbot> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 15:24 | <ltsppbot> "ninkendo" pasted "lts.conf" (5 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/38
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| 15:25 | <ninkendo> hmmm, yeah SCREEN_07=shell doesn't seem to have any effect
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| 15:26 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: is your LDM server different from the root filesystem server?
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| 15:26 | <johnny> you could just drop it into the /etc/ in the chroot
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| 15:26 | and then rebuild the image
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| 15:26 | <ninkendo> vagrantc: no, they're the same
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| 15:26 | <johnny> i had to do that due to netascii issues
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| 15:26 | <ninkendo> that line about LDM_SERVER probably doesn't matter
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| 15:26 | <johnny> luckily the new dnsmasq fixes it
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| 15:27 | <ninkendo> I put it in there when I was attempting to fix ltsp from trying to get the nbd root from the windows server
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: best not to add things to lts.conf unless you know you need them.
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| 15:27 | <ninkendo> heh
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| 15:27 | like the screen_02=shell line?
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| 15:27 | :P
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> well, that had a specific goal :P
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| 15:27 | <johnny> i guess hardy will never get anewer dnsmasq
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| 15:27 | <vagrantc> and it worked great.
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| 15:30 | * ninkendo is trying the /etc/lts.conf + ltsp-update-image approach | |
| 15:31 | <vagrantc> ninkendo: alternately, you can rebuild the initramfs with a patch to transfer lts.conf via binary tftp mode ... it's a pretty simple patch
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| 15:31 | <ninkendo> vagrantc: is there a bash script somewhere I can edit?
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| 15:32 | <vagrantc> copy /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ltsp_nbd to /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/initramfs-tools/scripts
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| 15:33 | ninkendo: add "-m binary" to the line that downloads lts.conf
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| 15:34 | <ninkendo> just initramfs-tools/scripts?
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| 15:34 | not a subdirectory thereof?
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| 15:34 | <vagrantc> yes
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| 15:34 | <ninkendo> ok
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| 15:34 | <vagrantc> and then ...
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| 15:34 | chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 update-initramfs -u -k all
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| 15:34 | ltsp-update-kernels
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| 15:34 | copy the files to your tftp server ...
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| 15:35 | and try that.
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| 15:35 | <ninkendo> so the line is now: (echo "get ${tftpath}/lts.conf"|tftp ${ROOTSERVER} -m binary >/dev/null 2>&1)
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| 15:35 | correct?
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| 15:36 | <vagrantc> i think before the ROOTSERVER part
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| 15:36 | (echo "get ${tftpath}/lts.conf"|tftp -m binary ${ROOTSERVER} >/dev/null 2>&1)
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| 15:38 | <supreme> hi
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| 15:38 | how can i share the scanner plugged into the server
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| 15:38 | ?
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| 15:39 | (share to clients users)
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| 15:40 | actually i can scan from clients but only as root
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| 15:50 | <supreme> ive tried to change permissions in udev, but i think i didnt do well
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| 15:55 | <sutula> supreme: When you manually log into the server, can you use the scanner?
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| 15:55 | <supreme> i cannot have phisic access to the server, but i can use scanner as root from clients
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| 15:56 | (the scanner always is connected to server)
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| 15:57 | <sutula> supreme: My point is that it's probably not an ltsp issue. If normal users logged directly into the server can't access the scanner, then ltsp users won't be able to as well.
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| 15:58 | <supreme> supreme: surely u re right
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| 16:00 | after change permissions in /etc/udev/ what can i do to take effect (except reboot cause its a classroom :S)?
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| 16:00 | <sutula> supreme: Different Linux distros have different mechanisms to handle permissions...probably someone in a support channel for your server's distro is the best choice
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| 16:01 | supreme: My guess is you'd have to reboot the server...if you change perms on the /dev file, you wouldn't need the reboot, but then it will go away next reboot
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| 16:06 | <supreme> ok,thanks
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| 16:11 | <sutula> supreme: Most distros prefer to take care of this with /etc/groups entries, but have different ways of changing that file. If you go that way, users have to log out and log back in to gain group access.
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| 16:14 | <supreme> humm /dev/parport0 is the scanner his permissions are rwxrwxrwx and belongs to lp group, where belongs all other users too
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| 16:14 | :/
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| 16:15 | but i think this issue already isnt for this chan
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| 16:19 | <ninkendo> vagrantc: that worked, thanks!
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| 16:20 | <vagrantc> i considered making it the default ...
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| 16:32 | <jammcq> vagrantc: hey, I made reservations for friday nite at 7pm. Figured we could change them if we need to
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| 16:32 | <vagrantc> jammcq: ok, cool.
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| 16:33 | <jammcq> I said 10-12 people and I'd call her if we'll have more than that
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| 16:33 | I know Gadi won't join us
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| 16:34 | <vagrantc> jammcq: sounds reasonable. where is it?
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| 16:35 | <jammcq> 1201 12th ave SW
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| 16:35 | <vagrantc> jammcq: you you expect there will be some of those funds leftover for other meals?
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| 16:35 | <jammcq> it all depends on how many go to .br
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| 16:35 | and how much wine we enjoy
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| 16:35 | <vagrantc> heh
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| 16:36 | <jammcq> for the other meals, i'm willing to pitch in some money to help
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> brazil isn't known for it's wine, sadly.
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| 16:36 | <jammcq> no, but south america in general has some excelent wine, especially Chili
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> indeed.
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| 16:36 | <jammcq> and they have it at this place
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| 17:22 | <krasna> hi, how can listen sound in openoffice2.4?
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| 19:24 | <devsforev> Greetings everyone. I am working on getting an LTSP setup in my home. After installing nvidia-glx with apt-get, I tried running ltsp-update-image. But it doesn't exist! I am running Debian Etch and LTSP 5. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
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| 19:28 | <johnny> it exists outside of the chroot, not inside
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| 19:28 | <devsforev> johnny: i am outside of the chroot
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| 19:28 | <johnny> hmm.. but you have ltsp-build-client ?
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| 19:29 | <devsforev> yes i do
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| 19:29 | <johnny> vagrantc, any ideas on that?
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| 19:29 | <devsforev> I have ltsp-build-client, ltsp-update-kernels, ltsp-update-sshkeys but no ltsp-update-image
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| 19:30 | <vagrantc> devsforev: no need to run ltsp-update-image on debian
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| 19:30 | devsforev: and i presume you're using the version of ltsp from etch, not the backported version
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| 19:30 | <devsforev> really? thats pretty sweet; yes I am using the etch version
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| 19:30 | I just spend an hour googling and nobody else had my problem, so i figured i would come here
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| 19:31 | thank you greatly for your help!
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| 19:31 | <johnny> aha.. so the backported version would have ltsp-update-image ?
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| 19:32 | <vagrantc> johnny: they would have it, but it's not really used on debian.
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| 19:32 | the default is still to use NFS
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| 22:03 | <vagrantc> dberkholz, warren: y'all make it to town alright?
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