IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 2 June 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 00:58 | <wf_c0d3r> hello there...
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| 00:58 | when installing the ltsp will i used the server version or the desktop version?
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| 01:00 | <Burgundavia> edubuntu or ubuntu?
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| 01:01 | <wf_c0d3r> ubuntu
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| 01:04 | <Burgundavia> either will work
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| 01:04 | you need ltsp-standalone if you are using ubuntu
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| 01:07 | <wf_c0d3r> yups but when i used the desktop version i just can get it run
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| 01:10 | <Burgundavia> I belive so
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| 01:16 | <wf_c0d3r> so its better to install the server version?
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| 01:53 | <subha1> how to configure sound in ltsp?
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| 01:54 | iam new to ltsp.how to configure sound in ltsp client side
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| 01:58 | hello...!!!!
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| 02:48 | <sahil> /msg NickServ IDENTIFY orange
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| 02:48 | <vagrantc> nice
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| 02:48 | <sahil> crap
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| 02:48 | hahah
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| 02:52 | <cyberorg> someone quickly steal sahil's id
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| 02:59 | <sahil> cyberorg:you don't want to be me
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| 03:00 | i never get laid
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| 03:00 | or paid
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| 03:00 | <cyberorg> heh, too bad :)
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| 04:16 | * vagrantc reviews http://bugs.debian.org/src:ltsp | |
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| 05:19 | <sahil> how do i get rid of that avahi crap?
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| 05:19 | ltspcfg is saying my eth0 is eth0:avahi or something
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| 05:20 | my /network/interfaces file has no mention of it
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| 05:20 | <vagrantc> is network-manager installed ?
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| 05:21 | it seems to be a popular thing to blame for network configuration strangeness
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| 05:22 | <cyberorg> networkmanager is one of the most annoying software that came out last year
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| 05:29 | <sahil> it is installed
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| 05:29 | vagrantrc: where else could there be mention of it other than the interfaces file/
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| 05:32 | <vagrantc> sahil: well, network-manager kind of treats your networking configuration as it's own and, as far as i understand, doesn't respect other configuration schemes
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| 05:32 | this is coming from someone who's never used it, only the complaints i've heard from others
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| 05:47 | <sahil> vagrantrc:can you search the logs i forgot to log but i think i talked about this with jamc the other night
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| 05:51 | <sahil> vagrantrc:nevermind magic happened on reboot
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| 07:18 | <Barni> hi all
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| 07:18 | i need help
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| 07:19 | i wanna to start TCP font path emenet server on port 7100 and is not working
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| 07:19 | pls help me
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| 07:20 | <sep> install and run xfs ?
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| 07:21 | <Barni> yes
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| 07:21 | it's ok
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| 07:21 | but when the thin client is booting appear could not init font path element tcp/192.168.3.2:7100 removing from list
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| 07:22 | <vagrantc> Barni: have you configured xfs to allow remote connections?
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| 07:23 | <Barni> how?
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| 07:23 | maybe not
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| 07:23 | i don't know
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| 07:23 | <vagrantc> then you probably haven't :P
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| 07:23 | <Barni> :)
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| 07:23 | <vagrantc> it's been so long since i've messed with xfs ... i don't remember how
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| 07:25 | <cliebow_> sounds like a song title..
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| 07:28 | <Barni> pls help me
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| 07:32 | <vagrantc> Barni: what distro?
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| 07:33 | <Barni> ok resolved
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| 07:33 | :)
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| 08:11 | <jammcq> g'morning kidz
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| 08:15 | <Barni> i have started the XMMS, and there is no eSound support
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| 08:15 | why?
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| 08:15 | and how can i configure it?
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| 08:15 | <vagrantc> Barni: what linux distro?
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| 08:17 | <Barni> FC6
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| 08:18 | <vagrantc> !sound
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| 08:18 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "sound" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
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| 08:18 | <Barni> the eSound is missing
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| 08:18 | <vagrantc> using ltsp 4.2 ?
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| 08:18 | <Barni> yes
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| 08:19 | <vagrantc> Barni: read the url above ...
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| 08:24 | <Barni> ok
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| 08:24 | thanks
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| 08:53 | <Barni> my mplayer has no ESD support?
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| 08:53 | why?
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| 08:58 | also with the xine i have the same problem
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| 08:58 | the problem is there is no ESD audio spupport
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| 11:13 | <F-GT> trying to get ltsp 5 working on fc7
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| 11:13 | using ltsp tarballs for feisty
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| 11:14 | <cottima> Hello
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| 11:14 | <F-GT> can't get the login manager to show up
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| 11:21 | <cottima> I have a question I am a bad linux user, so please pardon me, but I have an old Compaq rack mount server that was donated dual p3 900mhz and about 512mb. I have never done a project with linux, just a bad user using desktop graphical environment and a LITTLE command line. I am worried about control, and do not totally like ubuntu but know that it is friendly for most.
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| 11:23 | Oh, sorry. I have two questions: 1) anyone think that server can handle 12 to 15 terminals and 2) am I just being chicken about ubuntu and/or security (I do not want users to have command line access, at least no base system access).
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| 11:24 | I am developing a lab for non-profit org to allow children to do homework
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| 11:40 | <jammcq> cottima: that server would be ok for about 5 terminals. take a look at: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ServerSizing
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| 11:41 | also, the only way to know for sure is to try it
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| 11:41 | if possible, try to add some more ram, that's the most important thing
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| 11:42 | and i'd be curious to hear why you don't totally like ubuntu
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| 11:49 | <F-GT> anyone got ltsp 5 running on a centos/fedora system ?
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| 11:59 | <Avatara> imho ltsp runs on any distro which can run dhcp tftp nfs and X server
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| 11:59 | <F-GT> i used to have a working ltsp 4.2
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| 11:59 | cant get ltsp5 running tho
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| 12:00 | i can see ubuntu firing up .. then it just hangs
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| 12:02 | <Avatara> ??
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| 12:03 | what you mean?
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| 12:03 | <F-GT> it gets a dhcp address. .. kernel loads and ubuntu splash screen starts
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| 12:03 | splash screen disappears and it stops
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| 12:04 | <Avatara> what on screen in that momet?
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| 12:04 | <F-GT> nothing
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| 12:04 | its blank
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| 12:04 | ls
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| 12:04 | <Avatara> splash screen starts - bootsplash?
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| 12:05 | <F-GT> yeah
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| 12:05 | <Avatara> try at first pass kernel parameter vga=normal or switch bootsplash off
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| 12:06 | for more output
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| 12:06 | <F-GT> actually
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| 12:06 | its managed to come up with somethign that time
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| 12:07 | cant access tty: job control turned off
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| 12:07 | (initramfs)
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| 12:07 | testing this from a vm
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| 12:12 | how do i pass the kernel param to the pxe kernel ?
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| 12:34 | <PMantis> jammcq: OT ping
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| 16:57 | <petre> afternoon all
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| 17:00 | jammcq: ping
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| 17:09 | <jammcq> petre: hey
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| 17:10 | <jammcq> petre: hey
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| 17:10 | <Burgundavia> hey jammcq
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| 17:11 | <jammcq> hey Burgundavia
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| 17:11 | <petre> man, I gotta get a new xchat client ;-)
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| 17:11 | <jammcq> or use a good one, like irssi
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| 19:43 | <mistik1> jammcq: game time
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| 20:11 | <cliebow_> jammcq:any chance my forwarding is bunged up?
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| 20:19 | forget it for now..alright
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| 22:53 | <ringlej> Etherboot is getting a dhcp address (I see DHCP discover/offer/request/ack in Ethereal), but when IP-Config tries to get a DHCP address I only see DHCP discover/offer. IP-Config doesn't continue with a DHCP request.
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| 23:16 | <F-GT> any ltsp devs awake ?
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| 23:19 | * sutula suspects there are people awake somewhere in the world | |
| 23:20 | <F-GT> still trying to get ltsp working after about 4 hrs .. starting to do my head in :)
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| 23:21 | v5 anyway
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| 23:21 | <Burgundavia> what distro?
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| 23:22 | <F-GT> fc7 with the feisty tarball
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| 23:23 | <Burgundavia> ahh
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| 23:23 | <F-GT> i see the bootsplash for ubuntu
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| 23:23 | <Burgundavia> that isn't shocking
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| 23:24 | I think that is part of the tarball
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| 23:24 | * jammcq wonders what he was expecting to see | |
| 23:24 | <F-GT> and if i tail /var/log/messages i can see dhcp requests, offers and packs
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| 23:25 | :)
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| 23:25 | i dont get ldm
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| 23:25 | <jammcq> what kind of thin client?
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| 23:25 | <F-GT> infact i cant seem to get it to do anything other than drop back to a busy box after time
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| 23:25 | ive got it in vmware atm
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| 23:25 | <jammcq> ok, you need to disable usplash, to see what it's doing
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| 23:26 | find the pxelinux.cfg/default file, and remove the 'usplash quiet' options
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| 23:26 | <F-GT> yeah
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| 23:26 | did that
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| 23:26 | <jammcq> ok
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| 23:26 | <F-GT> doesnt seem to do anything
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| 23:26 | <jammcq> is usplash still showing?
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| 23:26 | <F-GT> yep
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| 23:26 | let me just try again
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| 23:26 | <jammcq> then you didn't do it right
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| 23:26 | or you did it to the wrong file
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| 23:27 | <ringlej> F-GT: are you using an external dhcp server?
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| 23:27 | <F-GT> im using the dchp server on my fc7 box
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| 23:27 | <jammcq> that's no problem
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| 23:27 | <F-GT> pwd
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| 23:27 | /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_feisty_i386/boot/pxelinux.cfg
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| 23:27 | <jammcq> that's wrong
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| 23:27 | <F-GT> doh
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| 23:28 | <jammcq> do this: grep server_args /etc/xinetd.d/tftp
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| 23:28 | <F-GT> yeah
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| 23:28 | i just changed the other one
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| 23:28 | once sec
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| 23:28 | one sec
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| 23:28 | <jammcq> "other one" ?
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| 23:29 | <F-GT> ./tftpboot/ltsp/ubuntu_feisty_386/pxelinux.cfg
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| 23:29 | tjat
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| 23:29 | <jammcq> k
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| 23:29 | <F-GT> that
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| 23:30 | ok .. getting text now :)
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| 23:30 | nfsmount need a path.. hmm
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| 23:31 | <jammcq> what's your 'root-path' set to, in dhcpd.conf?
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| 23:31 | i'm guessing you have the ip address in there
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| 23:31 | <ringlej> I just found out that in order to use an external dhcpd3-server, I had to add "always-broadcast true;" to my dhcpd.conf. Otherwise, when IP-Config tries to do a DHCP discover, it doesn't seem to see the offer response.
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| 23:31 | <jammcq> ringlej: never heard of that
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| 23:31 | <F-GT> option root-path "192.168.0.1:/opt/ltsp/ubuntu_feisty_i386";
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| 23:32 | <jammcq> F-GT: yeah, ltsp-5 has a bug, it can't handle the IP address in the root-path
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| 23:32 | remove the 192.168.0.1:
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| 23:32 | <F-GT> ok
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| 23:32 | <jammcq> so it's just the path
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| 23:32 | <F-GT> got it .. trying again
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| 23:32 | looking better
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| 23:33 | nope
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| 23:33 | doh
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| 23:33 | <ringlej> F-GT: try adding "always-broadcast true;"
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| 23:33 | <F-GT> wait .. i didnt restart dhcpd
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| 23:33 | <jammcq> F-GT: he's way past dhcp issues
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| 23:33 | err
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| 23:33 | that was for ringlej
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| 23:35 | * sutula rests his case that people are awake, even some that know something (unlike himself :) | |
| 23:35 | <ringlej> jammcq: ok. I wasn't really sure about that. There are two different entites that do dhcp request during the boot of a ltsp-client: pxe/etherboot and later IP-Config. In my case, I was having a problem with the later.
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| 23:35 | <F-GT> ok.. that's stopped the nfs mount errors
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| 23:35 | <jammcq> ringlej: yeah, but by the time NFS starts doing it's thing, you'll be way past dhcp issues
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| 23:35 | <F-GT> nfs over tcp not available
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| 23:36 | <jammcq> F-GT: umm, dunno how fedora enables nfs over tcp
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| 23:37 | <F-GT> i have nfs running .. i guess i can do a bit more reading now i have something else to go onto
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| 23:37 | thanks for your help jammcq
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| 23:37 | 1 step closer :)
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| 23:37 | <jammcq> no prob
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| 23:38 | <F-GT> was there any docs on the wiki about the bug with the ip path ?
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| 23:38 | <jammcq> umm, dunno. it's in Launchpad, to get fixed
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| 23:39 | <F-GT> ahh ok ... i was up till about 3.30 trying to figure it out .. checking my old ltsp 4.2 configs against 5 ... seeing what i'd missed
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| 23:39 | 3..30 am
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| 23:39 | oh well good to know :)
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