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11:56 | <alazyworkaholic> Is the dhcp3-server package a necessary part of an ltsp-server-standalone setup?
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12:08 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: no, it's a "recommended" package, which means you can chose not to install it
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12:08 | Or you can install "ltsp-server" instead of "ltsp-server-standalone"
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12:09 | <alazyworkaholic> alkisg: thanks for the reply. My 'server' is my regular desktop. The client's a netbook. Following the (scant) information out there it seems that for that case I should be using the standalone version.
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12:10 | I managed to get ltsp working a few days ago on 10.10, but then the upgrade to 11.04 broke it. I've tried purging & reinstalling every pkg related to ltsp, removing /opt/ltsp but I won't work. The packages I've reinstalled are: openssh-server ltsp-server-standalone dhcp3-server. I did ltsp-build-client --arch i386 and ltsp-update-sshkeys
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12:10 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: how is it broken? specific error messages help
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12:10 | Also, if you have a home setup where the router is the dhcp server, you can install dnsmasq instead of dhcp3-server (proxydhcp)
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12:11 | <alazyworkaholic> I wish I had them. The client just doesn't connect at all. Times out & then starts its regular boot process
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12:12 | <alkisg> Do you have a chroot currently? /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img ?
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12:14 | <alazyworkaholic> I'm rebuilding the image now, but yes, I confirmed I did.
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12:15 | I think it's a networking/dhcp thing. The netbook isn't able to connect. (i think)
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12:16 | <alkisg> Can you describe your network setup?
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12:16 | How many nics, switches, routers, dhcp servers etc
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12:17 | <alazyworkaholic> Sure. It's a simple home setup. One dsl modem hooked into an el-cheapo 100 mbps router that has the desktop @ a static wired 192.168.1.100, & a wired connection to the netbook as well. Here's my /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf http://pastebin.com/FKGEVu33
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12:18 | <alkisg> Do you have a dhcp server on your router?
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12:18 | <alazyworkaholic> yes.
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12:18 | <alkisg> You can't have 2 dhcp servers on the same subnet
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12:18 | Read about this, it's more suited to home setups: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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12:20 | <alazyworkaholic> If it matters, the first time it worked, I had turned of the router's dhcp server. Then I turned it back on, but it continued to work. However, after the upgrade, it didn't work with or without the router's dhcp server.
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12:22 | Should it work with just the router's dhcp server (I don't know how the netbook would know to get the kernel from the desktop) or do I have to configure the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf? If so, Does mine look correct?
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12:23 | <alkisg> If you decide to use a proxydhcp server, then you don't need a dhcpd.conf
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12:23 | You choices are (1) use a proxydhcp or (2) turn off the router dhcp server
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12:23 | or (3) use hackish methods :)
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12:23 | Pick one!
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12:24 | <alazyworkaholic> I'm worried about turning off the router's dhcp server, because then won't other devices that connect wirelessly (ipod, laptop, etc) no longer be able to get an ip address.
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12:24 | <alkisg> (or use 2 nics + another switch, if you have them handy)
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12:24 | I agree, I propose (1) for you
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12:24 | <alazyworkaholic> ok, if i use proxydhcp, should I remove dhcp3-server & delete the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file?
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12:25 | <alkisg> Something like that. Just follow the instructions on the wiki, they'll tell you what to remove and how
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12:25 | <alazyworkaholic> ok, I'll work on that. Many thanks!
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12:26 | <alkisg> No problem. If you don't get it working, *don't* erase your chroot, we can just fix it.
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12:46 | <alazyworkaholic> alkisg: if you're still there, what's the difference between ltsp-server & ltsp-server-standalone? I had read that since the server is my regular desktop (i.e. not headless) I should use standalone, but the wiki you sent me to is ltsp-server.
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12:48 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: ltsp-server-standalone contains dhcp3-server, which you don't need since you're using a dhcp server on your router
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12:48 | <alazyworkaholic> ok thanks!
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12:48 | <alkisg> Follow the wiki page, it's the one that suits your setup
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13:12 | <alazyworkaholic> alkisg: is this a problem?
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13:12 | Setting up dnsmasq (2.57-1) ...
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13:12 | * Starting DNS forwarder and DHCP server dnsmasq
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13:12 | dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for port 53: Address already in use
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13:12 | [fail]
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13:12 | invoke-rc.d: initscript dnsmasq, action "start" failed.
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13:13 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: yes, it's a problem. Did you create the /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp.conf file as suggested in the wiki page?
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13:14 | <alazyworkaholic> no, but that 's the enxt step. I'll do that then reinstall. thanks.
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13:14 | <alkisg> reinstall what?
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13:14 | <alazyworkaholic> dnsmasq
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13:15 | <alkisg> Ah you mean restart?
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13:15 | sudo service dnsmasq restart
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13:15 | <alazyworkaholic> ok
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13:15 | <alkisg> That's the command you need, after creating the file
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13:19 | <alazyworkaholic> alkisg: I didn't see anything to change in the ltspconf. Then I ran the below & got
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13:19 | alan@Desktop:~$ sudo service dnsmasq restart
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13:19 | * Restarting DNS forwarder and DHCP server dnsmasq
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13:19 | dnsmasq: failed to bind DHCP server socket: Address already in use
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13:20 | <alkisg> You didn't uninstall the dhcp server then
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13:20 | Also, you need to change this line in dnsmasq ltsp.conf:
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13:20 | dhcp-range=10.160.31.10,proxy
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13:20 | Put your router IP there
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13:23 | <alazyworkaholic> Ok I changed it to dhcp-range=192.168.1.1,proxy but I did remove dhcp3-server. Should I also remove dhcp3-client & dhcp3-common?
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13:23 | <alkisg> No
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13:23 | Run: sudo netstat -nap | grep :68
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13:23 | What's the output?
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13:24 | <alazyworkaholic> mptjomg
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13:24 | nothiing
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13:25 | <alkisg> Sorry, 67, not 68
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13:25 | sudo netstat -nap | grep :67
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13:25 | <alazyworkaholic> udp 0 0 192.168.100.1:6771 0.0.0.0:* 2574/python2.7
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13:25 | udp 0 0 192.168.122.1:6771 0.0.0.0:* 2574/python2.7
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13:25 | udp 0 0 192.168.1.100:6771 0.0.0.0:* 2574/python2.7
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13:25 | udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:6771 0.0.0.0:* 2574/python2.7
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13:25 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6771 0.0.0.0:* 2574/python2.7
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13:25 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 1532/dnsmasq
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13:25 | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 1501/dnsmasq
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13:25 | <alkisg> Err it failed to bind but it did bind? I don't get it
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13:26 | OK, try to boot your client
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13:26 | <alazyworkaholic> ??? I'm confused. That's the output.
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13:26 | <alkisg> And also go to system > settings > log viewer
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13:27 | <alazyworkaholic> same as before, just times out & boots normally.
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13:27 | <alkisg> Did you go to the log viewer? In daemon.log you'll see dnsmasq logs
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13:28 | Or just run: grep dnsmasq /var/log/daemon.log | tail -n 3
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13:29 | <alazyworkaholic> no output.
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13:29 | nothing in the log
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13:29 | <alkisg> Something's not right. OK, let's go again:
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13:29 | sudo service dnsmasq stop
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13:29 | sudo service dnsmasq start
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13:29 | Does it display warnings?
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13:30 | <alazyworkaholic> yes, it says stopping, then not running. when I start it it says address already in use
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13:31 | <alkisg> sudo service dnsmasq stop
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13:31 | ps aux | grep dnsmasq
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13:31 | What does this tell you?
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13:34 | <alazyworkaholic> alan@Desktop:~$ ps aux | grep dnsmasq
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13:34 | nobody 1501 0.0 0.0 21688 1072 ? S 15:39 0:00 dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/default.pid --conf-file= --except-interface lo --listen-address 192.168.122.1 --dhcp-range 192.168.122.2,192.168.122.254 --dhcp-lease-max=253 --dhcp-no-override
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13:34 | nobody 1532 0.0 0.0 21688 1076 ? S 15:39 0:00 dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/run/libvirt/network/network1.pid --conf-file= --except-interface lo --listen-address 192.168.100.1 --dhcp-range 192.168.100.128,192.168.100.254 --dhcp-lease-max=127 --dhcp-no-override
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13:34 | alan 22794 0.0 0.0 9148 1036 pts/1 S+ 17:31 0:00 grep --color=auto dnsmasq
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13:35 | alkisg: sry, pidgin died on me. It didn't take the jump to 11.04 well either.
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13:36 | should I try sudo killall dnsmasq & then restart the service?
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13:37 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: it seems that libvirt or something is telling dnsmasq to use your dhcp port
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13:37 | Are you currently using virtualization?
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13:37 | <alazyworkaholic> not currently, but I have virt-manager installed.
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13:37 | <alkisg> OK, temporarily, run: sudo killall dnsmasq
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13:37 | <alazyworkaholic> Don't use it much. Get rid of it?
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13:38 | <alkisg> See if that allows "sudo service dnsmasq start" to start without warnings
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13:38 | <alazyworkaholic> started without warnings!
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13:38 | <alkisg> OK, retry booting your client
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13:39 | <alazyworkaholic> It's WORKING!
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13:39 | oh, wait.
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13:39 | :(
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13:39 | but at least we have an error message
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13:40 | Trying to lead: pxelinux.cfg/default
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13:40 | rror: failed to connect to NBD server 192.168.1.1:2000.
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13:41 | <alkisg> Is that your nbd server? Or that's your router?
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13:41 | I mean, is it your desktop pc?
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13:42 | <alazyworkaholic> 192.168.1.1 is the router's ip. The desktop's is 192.168.1.100
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13:42 | <alkisg> You didn't do the step with "IPAPPEND 3"
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13:42 | sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
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13:42 | and put "IPAPPEND 3" at a new line at the end of that file
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13:42 | Save, reboot client
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13:54 | <alazyworkaholic> my pxelinux.cfg/default
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13:54 | http://pastebin.com/u4qqsDyP
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13:55 | it's there, but the client now get to the ubuntu loading screen for a few seconds (purple with moving dots under the logo) then drops to initramfs
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14:02 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: on that initramfs, run: cat /proc/cmdline
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14:02 | Do you see a long "ip=xx:xx:xx:xx" parameter there?
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14:02 | Ah
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14:03 | You may want to try to remove "autoconf=dhcp"
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14:03 | It should be working with that, but maybe something broke in natty
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14:03 | <alazyworkaholic> ip=192.168.1.106:192.168.1.100:192.168.1.1:255.255.255.0 BOOTIF=01-00-1e-68-93-f9-ae
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14:04 | <alkisg> Try removing that "autoconf=dhcp" part
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14:05 | <alazyworkaholic> removed that, still the same.
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14:05 | do I have to update something, like ltsp-update-image?
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14:05 | <alkisg> No. That doesn't sound right. And the error is still that it tries to connect to your router for the nbd image?
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14:05 | I.e. still that one? (11:40:41 PM) alazyworkaholic: rror: failed to connect to NBD server 192.168.1.1:2000.
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14:07 | <alazyworkaholic> yeah, the same.
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14:07 | <alkisg> OK, something's broken in Natty
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14:07 | Now instead of nbdport=2000, try putting: nbdroot=192.168.1.100:2000
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14:08 | <alazyworkaholic> did that, nope. same
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14:09 | <alkisg> On the client, on the initramfs prompt, try: nbd-client 192.168.1.100 2000 /dev/nbd0
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14:09 | Do you see "negotiation ... size... " etc?
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14:10 | <alazyworkaholic> Negotiation: Error: Server closed connection Exiting
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14:11 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: it seems that you have more than 1 problems
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14:11 | It's getting late here, so I'll have to go in a few minutes. Want me to help you with vnc so that we finish this quickly?
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14:11 | (no port forwarding needed)
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14:11 | <alazyworkaholic> sure
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14:11 | <alkisg> sudo apt-get install x11vnc
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14:11 | <alazyworkaholic> you need my ip?
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14:11 | <alkisg> No
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14:11 | x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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14:13 | <alazyworkaholic> Installed it, now?
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14:14 | <alkisg> (12:11:50 AM) alkisg: x11vnc -connect alkisg.dyndns.org
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14:16 | <alazyworkaholic> ran that in a terminal, it says it's making a connection to client on host alkisg.dyndns.org port 5500
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14:16 | The VNC desktop is Desktop:2 PORT=5902
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14:16 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: ah dyndns is broken
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14:17 | 79.166.158.20
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14:17 | x11vnc -connect 79.166.158.20
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14:17 | ok got it
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14:24 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: I think something's broken in your logs, dnsmasq and inetd don't write to daemon.log
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14:27 | <alkisg> alazyworkaholic: try to boot a client
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14:28 | <alazyworkaholic> You sir, are incredible. It's there.
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14:28 | <alkisg> Nice
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14:28 | The problem was the /etc/nbd-server/config
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14:28 | Did you manually put it there?
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14:28 | <alazyworkaholic> no
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14:28 | <alkisg> Hmmm maybe a bug report needs to be filed then, in launchpad for ltsp
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14:29 | (left vnc)
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14:29 | Good luck with LTSP, and goodnight all.
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14:29 | <alazyworkaholic> Thanks a lot. I'll look through what you did there & try to figure it out.
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14:29 | Have a very good night.
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