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06:32 | <jpdrawneek> is Vagrant Cascadian about?
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06:33 | <johnny> no
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06:33 | it's like 4:30am where he is
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06:33 | UGGH APACHE DIE
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06:33 | why won't you restart :(
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06:33 | <jpdrawneek> k - and wheres that?
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06:33 | <johnny> portland,or
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06:35 | <jpdrawneek> k - need some help with local app permissions, can some one tell him I be back about 12am GMT
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06:39 | <johnny> he might not be here then
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06:39 | err by then
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06:39 | he's unpredictable :)
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06:39 | <jpdrawneek> tell him I am around etc...
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06:39 | need to get access to serial ports by next week
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08:20 | <petre> can anyone tell me where I can change the default permissions for /dev/fuse?
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08:20 | I seem to recall that it's a udev rule somewhere
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08:20 | <petre> The current default is 600, and I want to make it 660
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08:21 | otherwise, local devices don't work for users after a reboot, until I change the permissions on /dev/fuse
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09:54 | <moldy_> hi
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09:55 | i am using the "guest" login feature and have one account that cannot login
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09:55 | logging in via plain ssh does work using that account
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09:55 | i already tried deleting and recreating the account and its home dir
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09:55 | any ideas?
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10:01 | ahh, got it: quota exceeded
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11:02 | <Nubae> so, I've found what I believe to be the latest version of Edubuntu handbook (it says for Gutsy Gibbon) can I confirm this to be true?
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11:03 | This will be the starting base for a ltsp handbook with ubuntu bits in it, as opposed to the now totally illogical and confusing 'edubuntu' handbook
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13:53 | <johnny> now.. i wonder why my sound doesn't work yet..
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14:02 | <johnny> anybody have a problem with the modem snd_intel_8x0m ? device on ltsp ?
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14:10 | <warren> why are you using snd_intel_8x0m? isn't that only for the modem?
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14:16 | <stgraber> Nubae: the most recent release of the handbook is IIRC the one that gets installed on your system
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14:17 | Nubae: in the edubuntu-docs package
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14:30 | <johnny> warren, yes silly boy :)
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14:30 | it's being loaded by udev i guess
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14:57 | hmm.. guess that wasn't the only problem..
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15:44 | <mistik1> jammcq: hey man
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15:45 | jammcq: Are you still running the imaps over there, if so i've not been able to get access to that account in maybe 8 months or more
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16:04 | <jammcq> mistik1: hey, no, I haven't had that server running since last november
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16:04 | <mistik1> no wonder :)
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16:05 | so bigboy is not more, eh?
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19:02 | <Fisher> Hello! I have some dubts about ltsp. Will the last version work on 486 based computers? I tryed the ubuntu option and ended up with a kernel panic, on an older version of ltsp this client worked fine.
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19:04 | <Ryan52> Fisher: did you use the 486 kernel?
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19:05 | <Fisher> I tried with the --arch i386 option
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19:06 | on the ltsp-build-client command
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19:06 | <Ryan52> that's the architecture. there are 686 and 486 kernels.
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19:07 | <Fisher> The server is a x86 64
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19:08 | <Ryan52> that's irelavant. what I'm asking is which kernel are you using for the client? Is there any --help/man for ltsp-build-client that tells you how to choose? (or is there even a way to allow that...)
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19:08 | <Fisher> I tried the old version of ltsp and cannot connect trhough xdmcp. All I got is a gray screen with an x
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19:09 | I just used this quick start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall#Installing%20on%20top%20of%20an%20already%20running%20desktop%20system
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19:10 | <Ryan52> 1 sec...
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19:12 | it looks like ltsp defaults to the 486 kernel...
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19:13 | what does the kernel panic say? have you looked to see if there are any kernel bugs like it?
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19:13 | <Fisher> I don't remember...
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19:14 | maybe I should enter the channel agin on monday, when I'll be in front of the machine at my job
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19:14 | <Ryan52> you might want to try in #ubuntu (once you have the error message), since it is likely not LTSP specific.
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19:15 | <Fisher> one other thing I would like to know... why does the older ltsp do not connect to xdmcp... looks like an ubunt fail too...
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19:18 | thanks for the attention... looks like it is time for me to rest for a while... I so tired!!!
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19:21 | <petre> evening all
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19:22 | Can anyone tell me where I would change the default permissions for /dev/fuse?
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19:22 | I seem to recall it's some sort of udev rule
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20:01 | <warren> jammcq: when is the next hackfest proposed?
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20:01 | jammcq: early November I heard here on the channel?
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20:01 | jammcq: November 2nd general election, might be a bad idea.
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20:13 | jammcq: actually, having trouble finding hte date online
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20:14 | jammcq: oh, November 4th
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20:26 | <johnny> actually it doesn't default in ubuntu
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20:26 | the default in hardy is whatever the server arch is
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20:26 | so you have to specific i386
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20:26 | <Ryan52> I was talking about 686 vs 486. not i386 vs amd64.
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20:27 | <johnny> oh..
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20:27 | there's no way to choose anything buth amd64 or i386
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20:28 | guess you'd have to look at the config file shipped
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21:07 | <johnny> so close..
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21:09 | <jammcq> warren: yeah, Nov 4th is the travel day, for folks to get there.
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21:11 | <warren> jammcq: isn't that bad given general election?
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21:11 | <jammcq> the election is the 2nd, how could that possibly be bad?
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21:11 | <warren> jammcq: November 4th
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21:11 | <jammcq> oops
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21:11 | no, hackfest is the 6th
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21:11 | sorry
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21:11 | election is the 4th
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21:12 | <johnny> if i come, i'd have to leave early on the 8th.
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21:12 | i think it is the 8th..
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21:12 | hopefully not the 7th.
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21:12 | <jammcq> johnny: oh? you'd miss the big lobster dinner on saturday nite
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21:12 | <johnny> not that interested in the lobster
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21:12 | <warren> jammcq: please don't have another eating contest.
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21:12 | <jammcq> there'd be no point in leaving early on the 7th
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21:13 | warren: heh, my lobster eating contest is behind me
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21:13 | <johnny> well i need to back and find when our red and black ball is
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21:13 | <jammcq> I promise to behave a bit better this year
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21:14 | <johnny> movie time
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22:09 | <cmoo92> I installed LTSP on Ubuntu, under the gnome interface. I would like to change that and default it to KDE. How do I rebuild the thinclient image with this configuration?
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22:10 | <johnny> it comes from the server, not the client
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22:10 | so the standard way of doing that for ubuntu will take care of it
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22:12 | <cmoo92> k. Is there a way that when each user logs in for the first time, that they don't get the KDE personalization wizard?
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22:20 | <johnny> i'm sure there is plenty of information aobut that
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22:20 | i personally have no idea.. never switched from gnome
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22:20 | <cmoo92> ok
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22:21 | have you messed with locking down gnome much?
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22:21 | right now, the school is using KDE's Kiosk Admin tool
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22:21 | but I would rather stick with gnome if possible
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22:25 | i know there are some a couple apps for it, but they don't seem to do exactly what i want
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23:02 | <johnny> cmoo92, there's an app called sabayon for gnome, but it really could use some help
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23:02 | i work on it when i have time.. but i've been worrying about gentoo ltsp first
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23:02 | <cmoo92> johnny: yea. I've been messing with it. It's a really cool idea, but it is buggy.
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23:03 | <johnny> yeah.. but it might not be that hard to solve.. i'm still learning python atm
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23:04 | i've committed some fixes on it
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23:04 | mostly collecting patches from other bugzillas, i'm actually going to go back over some of them
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