IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 11 June 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 01:34 | <map7> I'm using XFCE on my server & thin clients when I adjust the volume on any of these machines it adjusts the volume for all connect (including the server), why is this so?
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| 01:34 | It seems to have something to do with xfce4-volumed
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| 01:35 | There doesn't seem to be any manual for xfce4-volumed, should I be using this tool for thin clients? or am I better using some other volume controller?
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| 01:54 | <sbalneav> map7: Pulseaudio is usually what's used.
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| 01:54 | on the thin client that is, so make sure xfxe4-volumed is working with pulseaudio
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| 01:59 | <map7> Yeah I'm using pulseaudio, but the alsamixer also controls the volume as I've directed all alsa traffic to pulse using /etc/asound.conf
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| 02:10 | I've got a work around for now using amixer & binding this to the keyboards vol up & vol down special buttons
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| 05:03 | <map7> If I start the thin client with 'pavucontrol' sound works until I close 'pavucontrol', why would this be?
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| 05:03 | What does pavucontrol start in the background?
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| 06:18 | <work_alkisg> I think that if you don't let pulse start first and manage the hardware, and instead you start alsa first, then only one of them works. So maybe you have a bad configuration (starting alsa first) and when you start pavucontrol, this starts pulse first.
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| 06:19 | Which distro is that?
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| 07:07 | <FrozenZia> Morning! If I've got an LTSP-server with a USB-tethered internet connection via mobile, and then a single NIC to my internal network, I would say I'm sort of in a dual NIC situation, right?
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| 07:08 | I presume my NIC should then be configured to a static IP address....
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| 07:10 | Right? And then what other things must I take into account? Is there a good reference I can look at?
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| 07:40 | <work_alkisg> It's a classic dual nic setup, yeah
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| 07:40 | An "internal network" static ip is suggested, but if you have another dhcp server on that network, then it's not required
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| 07:41 | No special docs necessary, the usual ltsp docs apply
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| 07:57 | <FrozenZia> I just seem to be getting strange messages in my client -- it boots up fine, but then the network mgr says something like "device not managed"
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| 07:57 | and is NOT connected to network...
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| 08:13 | <work_alkisg> The clients are expected to show that message, because if it was managed by network-manager, it would break the boot connection to the server
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| 08:18 | <FrozenZia> work_alkisg , mmmkay, but how about this lack of internet connectivity? Ah, somehow need to "share" the internet connection from the server in this case? Was wondering how much it would mess things up to install firestarter on the server and share the internet from there...
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| 09:51 | <FrozenZia> completely confused. Now have laptop, providing internet access and dhcp via firestarter to a very small LAN. Other parties on the LAN are the LTSP-server and a single client.
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| 09:53 | <FrozenZia> The LTSP-server gets its IP from the LAN just fine, and can ping the world.
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| 09:53 | The client DOES NOT get in IP address on boot, and also no PXE pkg....?????
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| 09:54 | Any help?
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| 09:56 | <FrozenZia> Ah, and the relevant bit of info MAY be that my LAN is formed by plugging all the PCs into the back of a DLink-wireless router, which has DHCP turned off and wireless turned off.
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| 10:00 | I've presumed that it acts pretty much like a switch at that point, and shouldn't be causing any problems like what I
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| 10:00 | ...am seeing.
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| 11:17 | <erik__> hi. am trying ltsp but client crashes on booting linux. sometimes later sometimes earlier. pinging is possible until crash. what kernel options could i try, what else could i try?
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| 11:22 | <kbm> http://jonathancarter.org/2010/11/24/how-do-ltsp-fat-clients-work/
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| 11:22 | i successfully booted edubuntu
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| 11:23 | check this site
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| 11:46 | <erikyyy> hello. i am using a client machine where debian squeeze ltsp is working, but debian wheezy ltsp client is crashing after boot at some random time
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| 11:47 | i asked some 10 minutes ago but my irc client was broken, sorry.
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| 11:48 | it is an igel-5/3
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| 13:11 | <erikyyy> i do not understand LDM. it lets me enter any usernamen and any password, then it waits approximatly 20 seconds then it writes to the log: "ldm[xxx]: no response, restarting". what response does it try to get here?
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| 13:14 | ah problem is that server host is unknown to ssh. need to login once from root console to make host known. that sucks
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| 13:29 | <davew> Hi,
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| 13:30 | <davew> I am changing from thin clients to thick clients. I have an issue in logging in the users from the client terminals. Can anybody point me in the right direction ?
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| 14:13 | <alkisg> davew: distro/version?
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| 14:17 | <davew> Hi, Version is 12.04
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| 14:17 | <alkisg> What happens when you try to login?
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| 14:18 | <davew> This is all a bit strange since I have found that on my test client I can log in with a particular user name and password and it is O>K> but if I log in with another it isn't
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| 14:19 | <alkisg> It sounds like a unity problem then, try forcing unity-2d
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| 14:19 | !ubuntu-2d
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| 14:19 | <ltsp`> ubuntu-2d: To select ubuntu-2d as your default session, put this line in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d"
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| 14:20 | <davew> Could you remind me where that file is
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| 14:24 | <alkisg> sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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| 14:32 | <davew> Have changed session - before trying to log in again does anything have to be done ?
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| 14:33 | <alkisg> Yes you can also select the session from the ldm "preferences" menu
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| 14:42 | <davew> It still appears to be the same.When it fails it drops to a black screen and then comes back to a login . There appear to be a comment about saned being disabled as it flashes past.
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| 14:45 | There is also a comment about speed dispatcher being disabled as well
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| 14:46 | <alkisg> Those don't matter; it still sounds like a xorg problem, where unity-3d is selected, it doesn't work, so it restarts. Or it can happen if unity-2d is using compiz for some reason...
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| 14:46 | You can get a local shell to verify that
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| 14:46 | !screen02
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| 14:46 | <ltsp`> Error: "screen02" is not a valid command.
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| 14:46 | <alkisg> !screen-02
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| 14:46 | <ltsp`> Error: "screen-02" is not a valid command.
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| 14:46 | <alkisg> !SCREEN_02
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| 14:46 | <ltsp`> SCREEN_02: To get a root shell on an Ubuntu thin client: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ClientTroubleshooting#Using_a_shell_SCREEN
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| 14:47 | <alkisg> That one ^ will get you a local shell where you can then run: less /var/log/Xorg.7.log.old after the blank screen
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| 14:52 | <davew> Sorry <alkisg> I don't understand --- all this is done on the server ?
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| 14:54 | <alkisg> Yes, read the docs a bit about lts.conf
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| 14:54 | !lts.conf
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| 14:54 | <ltsp`> lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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| 15:08 | <davew> I have pasted the three lines in to lts.conf. I have rebooted a client - Ctrl + Alt + F2 only gives me a flashing cursor
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| 15:24 | <davew> Yes just a flashing hyphen in top left hand corner of screen -- I can get to other screen using Ctrl+Alt+F7
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| 15:38 | <davew> Any comments <Alkisg>
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| 15:40 | Looks like the line dropped
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| 15:41 | To epeat - system was thin client but have attempted to change it to thick client using info in Jonathan Carters article
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| 15:42 | Does this make a difference ?
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| 15:54 | <davew> <Alkisg> - I have to shut the system down - apologies will try to get you later - regards
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| 16:21 | <workingcats> alkisg, thanks for the link ^^
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