IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 30 May 2013 (all times are UTC)
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| 12:52 | <workingcats> hi, i'm trying to use ltsp 5.3.7-0ubuntu2.5 on zentyal/ubuntu12.04 and its been working for i386 thin clients, but now i need to make an amd64 fat client. but when i boot the clients they always use the i386 image
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| 12:54 | on boot i can see it says TFTP prefix: /ltsp/i386
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| 12:54 | but on the fat clients this needs to be /ltsp/fat-amd64, or so i think at least.. how can i get it to use the latter?
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| 12:56 | i know i can set "fat mode" in lts.conf, but it wont be able to use an amd64 userspace if booted with the i386 kernel from ltsp/i386
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| 12:58 | <||cw> what's controlling the TFTP prefix in your setup?
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| 12:59 | <workingcats> ||cw, i suppose that's what my question boils down to :/
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| 12:59 | * ||cw is looking at his config | |
| 12:59 | <||cw> I seem to recall this being confusing when I looked before....
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| 13:00 | I'm still on 4.x though
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| 13:00 | <workingcats> hm i'll grep through /etc, maybe it's there
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| 13:01 | <||cw> basically, there's zero technical reason for separate i386 and amd64 tftp roots. one only needs 1 tftp root, and both kernels can live there, with pxe configs/menus controlling which kernel gets sent to which client.
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| 13:01 | <workingcats> good point
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| 13:01 | yes that would be preferable
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| 13:02 | <||cw> then, mac based directives in lts.conf to control which gets the amd64 ndb/nfs
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| 13:02 | <workingcats> ah yes i think i get it now
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| 13:02 | <||cw> I'm not sure how much that helps, but if you aren't trying to script ltspserver deployment you can override the default configs and make it work
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| 13:02 | <workingcats> yes that's much better
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| 13:04 | <||cw> that's one of the cool things about ltsp, it's just a collection of standard independent tools with some glue to manage them more efficiently. and for hte most part, that glue is platform independent.
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| 13:05 | <workingcats> yeah. we made the mistake of using a "ready to go" distro that isnt really ready to go, at least not for our needs. so since i didnt set it up (the distro came with it) i don't know how to fix it :/
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| 13:06 | <||cw> it's also generally tolerant of replacing any of the parts, as long as you either modify the glue or do the things it does manually
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| 13:06 | <workingcats> yeah
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| 13:07 | ok i think i found what settings i need
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| 13:07 | thanks :)
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| 13:07 | <||cw> I need to make some time to upgrade to 5. but 4 is suiting our needs, so there's no priority on it
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| 13:08 | <workingcats> yeah
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| 13:08 | i went with very new versions for everything so that if i dont have time to do complex updates it won't be a problem for longer ;)
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| 16:05 | <ogzy> hi, i installed ubuntu 12.04 on 64 bit but set the clients 32 bits, i don't feel so performance while using firefox, sometimes hanging while surfing, and knwn issue on KDE version of ubuntu? If i follow the same steps with Kubuntu may i get more performance?
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte, jammcq: I restarted apache2 again because ltsp.org was down. But I see some php errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log
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| 16:13 | <jammcq> hmm
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| 16:13 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte: so I get the idea that maybe some php uncaught exception is what causes the server to die every now and then... could you look at it?
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| 16:22 | <alkisg> E.g.: grep 'Stack trace' /var/log/apache2/error.log
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| 17:32 | <workingcats> ok made some progress in the meantime.. but i've got a question. i created a new chroot with "ltsp-build-client --fat-client --fat-client-desktop edubuntu-desktop --arch i386 --skipimage", then post-installed fluxbox, removed unity, libreoffice and the edubuntu "metapackage".. but now when I check /var/lib/apt/extended_states EVERYTHING seems to have "Auto installed: 1".. is that normal?
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| 17:32 | or should i be asking this in #ubuntu?
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| 17:35 | <workingcats> and apt-get autoremove doesnt want to remove anything at all
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| 17:39 | <workingcats> oh ok removing a few more things i dont need seems to fix it i think
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| 17:49 | <NerfBomb> What command will show be how many thin clients are currently booted?
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| 17:51 | <NerfBomb> Does anyone know what command will show me how many thin clients are currently booted?
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| 18:00 | <workingcats> NerfBomb, asking twice in a few minutes wont get you a reply any faster ;)
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| 18:00 | "who" will tell you who is logged in, maybe thats enough
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| 18:03 | the last field (behind the time) gives the IP or hostname, so if you cant find a better way you could always use that
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| 18:04 | <vagrantc> you could try using epoptes
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| 18:04 | that can report which clients are booted
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| 18:04 | amoung other things
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| 18:04 | !epoptes
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| 18:04 | <ltsp> epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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| 18:05 | * alkisg waves | |
| 18:05 | <workingcats> vagrantc, that sounds useful, cheers
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| 18:06 | <alkisg> nbd-server also has a list of clients that have been booted with nbd...
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| 18:06 | <vagrantc> you can get a list of clients from nfs, but it's pretty misleading
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| 18:07 | or at least, i've never figured out how to get an accurate list
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| 18:07 | <workingcats> well im off for the day, laters everyone
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| 18:07 | <alkisg> And dhcpd might have a list of current leases, that you could ping to get more accurate results
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