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Channel log from 30 November 2010 (all times are UTC)
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| 02:15 | <gnunux> hi
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| 03:27 | <Uzzi> grrr I can't log all users, it goes in timeout
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| 03:33 | <jimjimovich> hi all
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| 03:34 | I was wondering, does anyone have experience with printing from Windows XP to a printer that is connected to an ltsp thin client?
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| 04:01 | <Axachi> Appiah. I filed a bug report on Launchpad. about the $* "$@" bug in maverick 10.10.
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| 04:02 | <alkisg> Axachi: actually that was me, not Appiah... :)
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| 04:02 | (about the "$@" etc)
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| 04:02 | <Appiah> :)
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| 04:02 | <alkisg> But no problem, Appiah can help you too, he's a good LTSPer ;)
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| 04:06 | <Axachi> oh sorry alkisg :)
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| 04:06 | you rock alkisg. I have a teflon brain.. :P
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| 04:07 | <alkisg> :D
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| 04:07 | So anyway about the bug report, I guess someone of the devs that uses rdesktop will see + fix it...
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| 04:07 | <Axachi> I need help on an other matter.
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| 04:08 | I needto get some printers going they are connectedlocally on the thin clients..
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| 04:08 | Hope they will.
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| 04:09 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/682706
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| 04:11 | So annyone good on PRINTER_0_DEVICE?
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| 04:13 | <Appiah> whats the prob?
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| 04:15 | <Axachi> I tried putting this in lts.conf and I can not telnet to the ip and port 9100 on the thin client
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| 04:17 | <Axachi> I made print connection in Microsoft print serve.. added a port using HP jetdirect. and put in the ip of the thin client.
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| 04:18 | What was the link to put in the conf file that I have?
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| 04:19 | [00:23:7D:10:7F:BE]
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| 04:19 | PRINTER_0_NAME="HP LaserJet Series II"
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| 04:19 | PRINTER_0_DEVICE=dev/usb/lp0
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| 04:19 | PRINTER_0_TYPE=U
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| 04:22 | anyone?
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| 04:23 | !help
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| 04:23 | <ltspbot> Axachi: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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| 04:23 | <Axachi> !
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| 04:26 | Do I need to install anything into the chroot for this to work.. like I did with the ltspfs?
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| 04:27 | <Appiah> cups
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| 04:32 | <Axachi> ?
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| 04:33 | apt-get install cups?
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| 04:45 | <ogra_ac_> Axachi, no, dont install cups
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| 04:45 | find out why jetpipe doesnt start on the client instead
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| 04:45 | have you tried a different printer device ?
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| 04:45 | (/dev/usblp0 is a common one)
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| 04:46 | <mrcarrot> i have been forgetting how to change a ltsp system away from squashfs to nfs... can somebody help. i have tried to google for documentation and last time it also took really long time to find
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| 04:47 | <alkisg> ogra_ac_: is this only for HP printers? Or do all printers support jetpipe?
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| 04:47 | <ogra_ac_> alkisg, heh, i got a dejavu :)
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| 04:47 | <alkisg> ogra_ac_: right I forgot to ask this one though :D
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| 04:47 | <ogra_ac_> you asked me that two weeks ago, no ?
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| 04:47 | <alkisg> mrcarrot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWithoutNFS
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| 04:47 | ogra_ac_: not exactly, but similar
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| 04:48 | <ogra_ac_> alkisg, jetpipe is a dumb port forwarder, as long as the device exists it will work
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| 04:48 | *some* HP printers need additional USB driver stuff which is in hplip or so
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| 04:49 | <mrcarrot> thanks alkisg
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| 04:49 | <alkisg> thanks ogra_ac_ :)
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| 04:50 | <ogra_ac> (or in hpijs, not sure)
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| 04:53 | <mrcarrot> alkisg: this is not working with debian lenny :(... i need to run backport version of ltsp because of some requirements from the customers and the latest backport is making the clients to not boot through squashfs
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| 04:54 | that is why i need old good nfs
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| 05:09 | <Axachi> urg sorry was on lunch her.. :)
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| 05:10 | How do I test jetpip.. on the client
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| 05:10 | <ogra_ac> run an xterm as localapp and check the processlist and logs
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| 05:12 | <Axachi> If I run jetpipe it pops an error.. IndexError: list indesx out of range
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| 05:12 | line 123 in <module>
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| 05:13 | <ogra_ac> sounds like a bug in jetpipe
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| 05:13 | <Axachi> opps how do I run a localapp? (Microsoft Consultant her :P be gental)
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| 05:14 | <ogra_ac> !localapp
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| 05:14 | <ltspbot> ogra_ac: Error: "localapp" is not a valid command.
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| 05:14 | <ogra_ac> !localapps
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| 05:14 | <ltspbot> ogra_ac: "localapps" :: to access a tutorial on setting up localapps on jaunty, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty
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| 05:14 | <Axachi> wow cool
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| 05:15 | <ogra_ac> i guess you can ignore that its for jaunty
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| 05:16 | <Axachi> oki
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| 05:16 | but should I be able to telnet the client on its ip and port 9100
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| 05:16 | ?
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| 05:17 | <ogra_ac> if jetpipe runs this port should be available
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| 05:17 | your prob seems to be that it doesnt start at all
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| 05:17 | <Axachi> oki
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| 05:18 | so can i do a ps -ef | grep jetpipe ?
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| 05:19 | it comes up with a line
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| 05:19 | <ogra_ac> sounds good, where did you see the index out of range error then ?
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| 05:19 | <Axachi> if I only run jetpipe in shell
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| 05:20 | <ogra_ac> on the server ?
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| 05:20 | <Axachi> no on client
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| 05:20 | <ogra_ac> with the right options ?
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| 05:20 | <Axachi> no
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| 05:20 | <ogra_ac> (see the line from ps)
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| 05:20 | <Axachi> only jetpipe :)
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| 05:20 | <ogra_ac> right, it wont have the right options that way
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| 05:21 | <Axachi> how can I test
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| 05:21 | what command must I type ?
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| 05:21 | <ogra_ac> well, if jetpipe already runs for that port you first need to kill it
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| 05:22 | then run the same command you saw in your ps output
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| 05:24 | <Axachi> well taht only states jetpipe and notin behind?
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| 05:25 | I killed it no there is noting from ps
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| 05:25 | well it started right up agian
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| 05:27 | <Axachi> hmmm I can not see jetpipe if I do top..
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| 05:48 | <Axachi> Well I got it working starting i manually..
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| 05:48 | it
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| 05:49 | I did jetpipe /dev/usblp0 9100 and out came my test page :)
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| 05:50 | but wy wont it start with printer_0_device /dev/usblp0 in lts.conf?
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| 05:51 | <ogra_ac> are you sure thats your device in lts.conf ?
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| 05:53 | <Axachi> what do you mean? [mac] and under I have printer_0_device /dev/usblp0.
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| 05:57 | <Uzzi> I've problems with autentication. login screen works, but after typing password, no authentication and X doesn't start and login screen compare again
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| 05:57 | <Axachi> well is password strong enough? Like Password10 ?
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| 05:59 | <Hyperbyte> Uzzi, have you looked at logfiles? Have you tried to manually log in from the client to the server (like via SSH), to see if that works?
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| 06:00 | <Uzzi> now I'm loging into the server by ssh
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| 06:00 | <Hyperbyte> There is also an lts.conf option (LDM_DEBUG if memory serves) which instructs LDM (the login manager) to write a logfile in /var/log/ on the client, might also contain some useful information.
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| 06:01 | <Uzzi> Hyperbyte, I've not ldm dir in /var/log
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| 06:01 | <Hyperbyte> Take a look at the lts.conf documentation and turn on LDM debugging
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| 06:01 | <Uzzi> k
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| 06:01 | <Hyperbyte> Then after a client reboot there should be an ldm logfile
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| 06:02 | <ogra_ac> Axachi, your lts.conf paste further above showed /dev/usb/lp0
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| 06:02 | Axachi, and no slash in front of /dev
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| 06:02 | <Axachi> ah will check :)
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| 06:16 | no change.. :(
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| 06:17 | I changed the line to PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0 and PRINTER_0_PORT=9100 but it is not starting..
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| 06:18 | but port should be set default to 9100 right..
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| 06:18 | <ogra_ac> dont set the port
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| 06:18 | <Axachi> k
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| 06:18 | <ogra_ac> PRINTER_0_DEVICE=/dev/usblp0 is the only line you need
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| 06:19 | and dont forget you need to reboot the client after changing
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| 06:19 | <Axachi> yea I know :P
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| 06:26 | nope wont start..
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| 06:27 | what script is starting it. as there where errors in the rdesktop screen script on maverick ther might be one for this as well :)
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| 06:29 | hmm if I do getltscfg -a I get no PRINTER_0_DEVICE...
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| 06:29 | <ogra_ac> aha
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| 06:31 | smells like your lts.conf is either broken or lives in the wrong place
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| 06:31 | <Axachi> well everything els works in it :P
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| 06:32 | <Axachi> hmm exept the thing I put under the MAC address ... I will try somting else..
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| 06:32 | <ogra_ac> mac address should be fine
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| 06:32 | how about you put your lts.conf to a pastebin ;)
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| 06:33 | <Axachi> !pastebin
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| 06:33 | <ltspbot> Axachi: "pastebin" :: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
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| 06:35 | <Axachi> http://ltsp.pastebin.com/CJCdmi7n
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| 06:35 | and as you scan thru it. is there a way to set a password on the menu item ?
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| 06:41 | <ogra_ac> line 25 is broken
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| 06:41 | unless you have usblp01 on your thin client ;)
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| 06:41 | <Axachi> i do
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| 06:42 | <ogra_ac> 01 ??
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| 06:42 | did you hack the kernel ?
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| 06:42 | <Axachi> that is what I type when I do it manualy as well
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| 06:42 | ?
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| 06:42 | no
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| 06:42 | <ogra_ac> there is definitely no usblp01
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| 06:42 | should be usblp0
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| 06:42 | or if you have a second printer usblp1
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| 06:42 | but surely not 01
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| 06:44 | <Axachi> thx changed it..
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| 06:50 | <mrcarrot> after an upgrade of ltsp i get the thumbdrives mounted under /tmp/.username instead of under /media/username
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| 06:50 | in what file do i change this back?
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| 07:01 | <Axachi> what is the format on PRINTER_0 in lts.conf?
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| 07:02 | I trid PRINTER_0_DEVICE= /dev/usblp0 or is it only PRINTER_0_DEVICE /dev/usblp0 ?
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| 07:05 | I get syntax error.. on the PRINTER_0_DEVICE line..
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| 07:34 | <Axachi> the lts.conf file was corupt. works now :)
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| 07:34 | thx for all the help
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| 07:35 | Now is there a way to set a login for when using menu?
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| 07:42 | <Appiah> set login? as in autologon?
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| 08:45 | <whatch> Going to give skolelinux a try. I already have a dhcp server on my Windows Server 2008 domain. Where can I find clear instructions on how to use my current dhcp server. Thanks
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| 08:52 | <whatch> where can I find good instructions on how to use my current windows dhcp server?
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| 09:14 | <alkisg> whatch: skolelinux? That's not related to LTSP, is it?
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| 09:14 | <alkisg> Here are the docs for using a windows dhcp server with LTSP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
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| 09:19 | <whatch> looking for as little configuring as possible. Skolelinux comes with it out of box. thanks for the help
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| 09:20 | <Axachi> Appiah:no not autologin.. If I use the SCREEN_10 menu MENU_ITEM_01="Linux Shell" MENU_COMMAND_01="shell" is what I mean
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| 09:20 | I use windows 2008 dhcp
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| 09:21 | no prob on ubuntu distro. one nic as well
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| 09:21 | <Axachi> install with apt-get install ltsp-server only not -standalone
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| 09:23 | It pops up. with a menu. but I don't want users to see it if they are not authenticated... :)
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| 09:23 | the menu that is :P
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| 15:33 | <sidartha> is anyone familiar with how to change the umask setting in karmic? I want to allow my students to be able to share editing of certain files.
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| 15:39 | <alkisg> sidartha: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiUserManagement and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ACLSupport
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| 22:16 | <Mip5> Evening folks - I'm at the initramfs prompt after a system update dist-upgrade. I'm at 10.04. Any ideas?
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| 22:40 | <Mip5> Okay - I'll check back in the morning. G'night.
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| 22:52 | <johnny> alkisg, is there anything to make the connect to server dialog sane? i can't believe this atrocity is still default
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| 22:52 | it doesn't even remember what you've typed in before
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| 22:52 | <alkisg> Good morning
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| 22:52 | What dialog?
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| 22:54 | <evil_root> morning alkisg
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| 22:55 | i also got a question for ya alkisg if you have played with the ltsp-cluster
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| 22:55 | <alkisg> Nope, sorry, never seen it working
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| 22:55 | <evil_root> dam
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| 22:56 | i got it all working but there is this stupid harware inventory screen that loads on the thin client before the login
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| 22:56 | i just want to disable that inventory
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| 22:56 | but other then that the thing runs like a champ
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| 22:59 | <johnny> connect to server..
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| 22:59 | Places | Connect to Server
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| 23:01 | <evil_root> johnny connect to server... for what? is this ltsp?
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| 23:06 | <alkisg> johnny: you can make bookmarks for most of the things you put in that dialog
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| 23:06 | <johnny> alkisg, i know, buti don't want to bookmark them
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| 23:06 | that implies i want to connect to them at some other point and time other than the current session
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| 23:06 | seems like it could at least save what you've typed in previously.. like in a web browser
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| 23:06 | <alkisg> Well, that's about all the alternatives I know. The next one is submitting patches to the upstream code and hoping they'll accept it. :)
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| 23:07 | <johnny> i've seen some replacements actually, i was just hoping you had one to recommend, guess not
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