IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 26 June 2019 (all times are UTC)
| 04:32 | <alkisg> gbaman, I'm more around in Greek mornings than UK evenings :)
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| 05:53 | <alkisg> mwalters: btw, if they work fine in windows, you can share them via windows samba :P
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| 13:06 | <mwalters> last time I tried that, they spit out garbage?
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| 13:06 | <alkisg> mwalters: which one, print via samba? It works fine here...
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| 13:07 | Garbage = probably wrong drivers?
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| 13:07 | <mwalters> printing to a printer shared by a windows machine
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| 13:07 | (from a fat client)
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| 13:07 | probably
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| 13:07 | Ultimate goal would be to get rid of all of our windows machines... but that's probably not happening for a while...
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| 13:07 | * mwalters shakes fist @ quickbooks | |
| 13:08 | <mwalters> Will probably have at least a windows server for a while... so I'll dig into that again
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| 13:08 | oh
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| 13:08 | CALs
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| 13:09 | <mwalters> That's the real reason why not
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| 13:09 | <alkisg> So?
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| 13:09 | You can chain print queues :)
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| 13:09 | LTSP server prints to windows; the others print to the ltsp server
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| 13:09 | <mwalters> Oh... so technically the only machine accessing the windows machine is the ltsp server ;)
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| 13:10 | <alkisg> So it's 1 connection; no need for cal
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| 13:10 | It may even be a VM in the ltsp server
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| 13:10 | If you have enough ram
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| 13:10 | <mwalters> I'm sure there's some creative verbiage in the windows EULAs that covers that case ;)... MS are really good at making them IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND... I doubt they'd care in either case with how small we are, though
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| 13:10 | I'll dig into that a bit further
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| 13:11 | yeah, we have a windows server at this office for quickbooks (and eventually moving all of our accounting staff to LTSP and RDP to the windows server)... the other servers are like 64gb or 128gb memory, so no problems there ;)
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| 13:11 | (other servers that host ltsp)
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| 13:12 | They bought big beefy servers here because they were doing thin clients
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| 13:13 | It'd probably help if I actually learned how CUPS/linux print stack even worked ;)
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| 13:15 | <alkisg> I also enjoy the part where my rpi is a print server to all my linux and windows machines without having to do anything extraordinary
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| 13:15 | and a scan server for linux pcs too
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| 13:33 | <mwalters> nice. We just do "scan to email" for scanning
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| 14:44 | <||cw> saned was fun to mess with. I hacked a HP network scanjet5 once, stuffed a faster mainboard and scsi card in it, found a script for the serial LCD and keypad, and made a much faster network scanner
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| 14:45 | another HP mechanical design tho, the rollers were not designed to be replaceable, same with the 9100C, so they are all dead now. I do have a 9100C still working, but it can only do normal paper and only a couple pages at once
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| 17:52 | <josefig> hi guys, i tried to upgrade some apps on my ltsp image and i'm getting the following error:
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| 17:52 | Err:2 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ts.sch.gr/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease >>> Couldn't create temporary file /tmp/apt.conf.Uxdvkc for passing config to apt-key
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| 17:53 | it looks like the tmp directory is not mounted when I do ltsp-chroot -m
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| 17:56 | <alkisg> josefig: tmp isn't a mount
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| 17:56 | It's a simple directory; so you must be doing something weird
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| 17:56 | <vagrantc> it can be...
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> vagrantc: well, if he deliberately tried to ... what, delete tmp in the chroot and the mount it?
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| 17:57 | Because even if it was a mount point, it should work
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| 17:57 | <vagrantc> true, that does sound confusing
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> Maybe it's just "out of space" issue
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| 17:57 | <vagrantc> plausible
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| 17:57 | <alkisg> Or wrong tmp permissions
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| 18:04 | <josefig> i did an upgrade of some packages needed on the ltsp server
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| 18:04 | but when I tried to install new packages and create a new image i got that error
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| 18:06 | but i didnt move anything regarding the tmp directory
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| 18:06 | maybe permissions?
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| 18:06 | drwxrwxr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jun 26 18:03 tmp
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| 18:07 | root@sagitario:/# df -h >>> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 1.3T 142G 1.1T 13% /var/cache/apt/archives udev 12G 0 12G 0% /dev
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| 18:08 | it's not disk
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| 18:08 | <vagrantc> should be drwxrwxrwt
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| 18:08 | <josefig> ah I see
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| 18:08 | weird
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| 18:09 | worked, thank you vagrantc
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| 19:09 | <alkisg> vagrantc: so, buster == wayland by default? No epoptes, no ssh -X... :/
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| 19:10 | <Sleaker> wait they swapped to wayland now?
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| 19:10 | hmmm
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| 19:10 | is it still a choice?
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| 19:12 | <alkisg> Sure
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| 19:12 | It's just about the default... the choice should be there for many years
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| 19:14 | <Sleaker> fair.
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| 19:47 | <vagrantc> alkisg: gdm defaults to wayland with gnome; i'm not sure it's more than that
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| 19:52 | <alkisg> I think that's all; but it's the "default desktop environment, default session"
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