IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 2 February 2015 (all times are UTC)
| 00:00 | <Guest49254> ah, I see, thanks!
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| 00:02 | now I am trying following guide for autologin with SSH keys which is partly from you, but even after doing everything like in the guide (plus one corrected typo), I am still getting authentication failure with failed password
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| 00:10 | <vagrantc> which guide?
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| 00:10 | <Guest49254> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LDM_AUTOLOGINwithSSH
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| 00:11 | there is a typo of pam-mkhomedir.so instead of pam_mkhomedir.so
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| 00:13 | * vagrantc doesn't tend to write on ubuntu sites much | |
| 00:14 | <vagrantc> someone definitely copied some stuff i wrote about that :)
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| 00:15 | Guest49254: AuthorizedKeysFile2 doesn't work with modern versions of openssh-server
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| 00:15 | <Guest49254> yeah, I replaced that with AuthorizedKeysFile
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| 00:35 | <Guest49254> when I create normal password-based user, regular autologin works when I use kiosk as screen, but with ldm it keeps restarting the session. I'll look into it more in the morning, thanks for your help so far!
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| 07:41 | <ame> i have installed and configured ltsp-pnp in CAElinux2013...Client computers are detecting server through dhcp but its not booting saying an error like tftp time out....
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| 07:41 | what can i do now??
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| 08:04 | <alkisg> !tftp
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| 08:04 | <ltsp`> tftp: Here's a page to help you troubleshoot TFTP problems in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
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| 08:25 | <ame> alkisg:yes
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| 08:26 | alkisg:clients detecting my server and showing client ip,gateway ip and tftp as timed out
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| 08:29 | <alkisg> ame, yes, try to troubleshoot it
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| 08:29 | Follow that page that I said above
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| 08:30 | <ame> alkisg:ok
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| 08:31 | alkisg:why i asked this doubt is because i dont configure anything regarding tftp for my before server...So only asking
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| 08:31 | <alkisg> It's probably some misconfiguration that you did, I don't think it's related to caelinux2013
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| 08:31 | E.g. you might have forgotten to put ipappend 3
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| 08:32 | <ame> alkisg:might be i will append that again and try to booting again
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> No
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| 08:32 | Try to troubleshoot it by reading that page
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| 08:32 | Don't try random things...
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| 08:32 | * alkisg waves, later... | |
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| 08:34 | <ame> alkisg:okay lemme try and tell you
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| 08:42 | <ame> alkig:one more doubt,In dhcp.conf the root path is /opt/ltsp/i386 but no file is like that in that location
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| 08:42 | <ame> i can find /opt/ltsp/images/amd64....Do we need to change anything on root path??
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| 09:00 | <alkisg> ame: open /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/ltsp_i386.conf and check its header
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| 09:02 | <ame> alkisg:but i have installed amd64
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| 09:02 | <alkisg> Then check that one
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| 09:03 | <ame> alkisg:how it should be??
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| 09:06 | alkisg:i can find some four lines on that conf
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| 09:06 | shall i paste it??
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| 09:06 | <alkisg> ame: yes
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| 09:08 | <ame> [/opt/ltsp/amd64] exportname=/opt/ltsp/images/amd64.img readonly=true authfile= /etc/ltsp
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| 09:08 | nbd-server.allow
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| 09:09 | <alkisg> It's ok
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| 09:31 | <ame> alkisg:We need to install tftp service on caelinux
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| 09:31 | alkisg:i have installed and its working...I can receive image and its booting
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| 09:32 | alkisg:But the graphics is too slow can i use gdm??
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| 09:35 | <alkisg> ame: thin clients or fat?
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| 09:35 | dnsmasq is the tftp server in ltsp-pnp
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| 09:39 | <ame> alkig:i have followed this link "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp"
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| 09:47 | <alkisg> And does it say to install tftp there?
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| 09:48 | Thin clients or fat?
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| 09:48 | What specs?
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| 09:48 | gdm won't make any difference to the client graphics speed
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| 09:48 | And no, you can't use it (easily)
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| 09:51 | <ame> alkisg:i have first checked for the status of tftpf but it says no service running..So i installed tftpd and then its working fine now
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| 09:51 | <alkisg> What was the command to check tftpf?
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| 09:51 | And what was its output?
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| 09:51 | <ame> alkisg:Which specs you want??
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| 09:51 | alkisg:which one output??
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> You said that you checked for the status of tftpf
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| 09:52 | How?
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| 09:52 | <ame> status tftpd-hpa
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> tftpd-hpa shouldn't be installed
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| 09:52 | Uninstall it
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| 09:52 | <ame> oh ok
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| 09:52 | <alkisg> Why did you install it?
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| 09:52 | In ltsp-pnp, dnsmasq handles tftp
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| 09:53 | <ame> alkisg:I am very new to ltsp...Please guid me to do that
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| 09:53 | <alkisg> About the specs, I meant client cpu and ram
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| 09:53 | ame, you followed the ltsp-pnp page
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| 09:53 | <ame> i have completed till generating the image
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> There, it does *not* mention tftpd-hpa
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| 09:54 | <ame> alkisg:client RAM is 1 GB in few computers and 2GB in few computers
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> So, you decided not to follow that page
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| 09:54 | Why?
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| 09:54 | <ame> alkisg:you sent a link for tftp right??So i followed that
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| 09:54 | <alkisg> No you didn't
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| 09:54 | You have tftpd-hpa installed
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| 09:54 | That page doesn't say to install tftpd-hpa
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| 09:55 | So you didn't follow it, you did other things
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| 09:55 | <ame> alkisg:sorry
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| 09:55 | alkisg:i will just uninstall that
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| 09:55 | <alkisg> The issue here is not tftpd-hpa
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| 09:55 | The problem is that I don't know what things you did
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| 09:56 | E.g. maybe you followed 2 wiki pages? Maybe 3? Maybe 10?
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| 09:56 | You should be mentioning those here so that we know what you did
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| 09:57 | So in your next installation, take notes of what you are doing
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| 09:57 | <ame> alkisg:I just followed the link which i sent
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| 09:57 | <alkisg> No you didn't
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| 09:57 | You installed tftpd-hpa
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| 09:57 | <ame> alkisg:That is the only mistake i done
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| 09:57 | <alkisg> Anyway
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| 09:57 | <ame> From that page
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| 09:58 | <alkisg> You are saying that graphics is slow now?
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| 09:58 | Open a terminal in a client
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| 09:58 | Run this command: hostname
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| 09:58 | what is the output of that command if you run it in a client?
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| 09:58 | <ame> But i have removed that tftpd know...my client is not booting
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| 09:59 | <alkisg> What's the output of this command on the server?
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| 09:59 | grep tftp /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf
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| 10:00 | <ame> i cant find the command
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| 10:00 | i can go till dnsmasq.d
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| 10:00 | After that nothing is there as you said
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| 10:01 | <alkisg> Type that command on the server and tell me the output
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| 10:01 | Ah you mean the file isn't there?
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| 10:01 | Then you didn't do this step:
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| 10:02 | sudo ltsp-config dnsmasq
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| 10:02 | Read the wiki page, you didn't do that
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| 10:02 | !ltsp-pnp
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| 10:02 | <ltsp`> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 10:02 | <alkisg> Try to follow the page more carefully
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| 10:02 | <ame> If i execute the command i get output as no such a file or directory
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| 10:03 | Need to do DNS issues also??
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| 10:04 | <alkisg> ame: can you paste the output here?
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| 10:07 | <ame> its on the another computer
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| 10:07 | <alkisg> Go there and come to irc from there
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| 10:08 | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ltsp
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| 10:08 | <ame> ok one moment
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| 10:10 | <ame> alkisg:i have login in the server which i configured...Tell me now i give all the output
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| 10:11 | <alkisg> sudo ltsp-config dnsmasq
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| 10:11 | grep tftp /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf
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| 10:12 | <ame> : /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf: No such file or directo
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| 10:12 | Created /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf * Restarting DNS forwarder and DHCP server dnsmasq dnsmasq: failed to bind DHCP server socket: Address already in use [fail] invoke-rc.d: initscript dnsmasq, action "restart" failed.
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> You did them in the wrong order
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| 10:13 | Give this one again:
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| 10:13 | grep tftp /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf
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| 10:13 | <ame> # The boot filename is relative to tftp-root. enable-tftp # The TFTP directory. Sometimes /srv/tftp is used instead. tftp-root=/var/lib/tftpboot/ root@hi:/home/test-1/Desktop# grep tftp /etc/dnsmasq.d/ltsp-server-dnsmasq.conf # The boot filename is relative to tftp-root. enable-tftp # The TFTP directory. Sometimes /srv/tftp is used instead. tftp-root=/var/lib/tftpboot
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| 10:14 | <alkisg> See, that's the command that you didn't do
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| 10:14 | Now... did you stop tftpd-hpa and did you remove it?
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| 10:14 | <ame> yes i removed that
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| 10:14 | <alkisg> Did you install isc-dhcp-server?
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| 10:14 | <ame> no
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| 10:15 | <alkisg> sudo netstat -nap | grep :67
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| 10:15 | <ame> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:678 0.0.0.0:* 931/rpcbind udp6 0 0 :::678 :::* 931/rpcbind
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> sudo netstat -nap | grep :69
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| 10:16 | <ame> nothing coming
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| 10:16 | <alkisg> sudo service dnsmasq restart
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| 10:17 | <ame> * Restarting DNS forwarder and DHCP server dnsmasq [ OK ]
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| 10:17 | <alkisg> Try to boot a client
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| 10:17 | <ame> one sec please
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| 10:18 | its saying could not locate boot server
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| 10:18 | <alkisg> What's the output of this one now?
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| 10:18 | sudo netstat -nap | grep :67
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| 10:19 | <ame> udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 6404/dnsmasq udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:678 0.0.0.0:* 931/rpcbind udp6 0 0 :::678 :::* 931/rpcbind
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| 10:20 | <alkisg> OK now run this on the server:
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| 10:20 | tail -f /var/log/sys
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| 10:20 | Sorry no
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| 10:20 | tail -f /var/log/syslog
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| 10:20 | This will show some messages and wait
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| 10:20 | Then boot a client
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| 10:20 | Then you'll see some new messages on the server
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| 10:20 | Paste those new messages here
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| 10:28 | <ame> alkisg:Internet disconnected on that server
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| 10:32 | <ame> alkisg:Internet disconnected on that server
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| 10:33 | <alkisg> ame: reconnect it?
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| 10:34 | <ame> In that computer only its not connecting working on that now
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| 10:50 | <alkisg> ame: I think your main problem is that you don't read the instructions of the wiki pages well enough
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| 10:50 | E.g. now you didn't run the ltsp-config dnsmasq command,
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| 10:50 | and it's quite possible that you didn't read the rest of the page either, the dns issues, network-manager issues etc
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| 12:33 | <pingufan> Hello. I am fighting with kiwi-ltsp on openSUSE 12.3 x64 since meanwhile more than one month. With an update, I suddenly git a message on the booting client telling "Not supported by kernel" and it reboots.
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| 12:34 | <highvoltage> is it an old thin client that doesn't do PAE?
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| 12:35 | <pingufan> I managed to successfully run kiwi-ltsp -l to create a new i386 image, but I still get this error.
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| 12:36 | No the client is new enough. It boots the bootmenu. Also starts to boot up, then I get this error and it reboots.
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| 12:36 | So PAE is definitely working.
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| 12:37 | I am close to give up and install a harddisk in the clients, but this will become expensive (multiple clients)
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| 12:38 | What can cause this crazy error? It appeared with one of the last updates of the host machine.
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| 12:43 | I wonder that "kiwi-ltsp -l" still shows some references to openSUSE 12.2 (see here: http://pastebin.com/4ZtbikmT), but the system is meanwhile upgraded to 12.3 !
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| 12:44 | <highvoltage> boot menu will still show even if it doesn't support PAE, it's only when the kernel loads when it will complain. what CPU do the clients have?
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| 12:46 | <pingufan> One has a VIA C7 CPU. The second one has a AMD E270 (or something like that). The first one worked fine at the beginning.
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| 13:02 | Any idea why this crap still uses 12.2 in some places?
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| 13:07 | I have no idea why it still uses some parts from 12.2. In /etc/sysconfig/kiwi-ltsp I find only one entry which was 12.2. I edited it to 12.3.
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| 13:19 | <pingufan> Where is the repository for Education / LTSP in cummunity repositories? It is missing, but was there in openSUSE 12.2.
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| 13:22 | <highvoltage> probably best to ask in opensuse channels. very few of us in #ltsp every even touch opensuse
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| 13:22 | there's one guy that uses it but he's rarely here
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| 13:22 | <ogra_> right, wait for cyberorg
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| 13:23 | kiwi is more a fork than plain ltsp so you need a kiwi specialist
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| 13:24 | <pingufan> You cannot imagine how much stress this is. This is a production system which does not work any more. And all that only because of permanent small issues...
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| 13:25 | When is cyberorg usually here?
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| 13:25 | <ogra_> no idea, i dont even know if he is around on a regular basis anymore
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| 13:26 | !seen cyberorg
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| 13:26 | <ltsp`> cyberorg was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <cyberorg> dnsmasq is default for ltsp on suse
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| 13:26 | <pingufan> I could cry.
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| 13:28 | Can I install somehow a normal LTSP on openSUSE 12.3 ? This has to work really reliably then.
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| 13:29 | <ogra_> i dont think there is normal ltsp for opensuse, no
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| 13:29 | debian., ubuntu., gentoo, arch and mint have proper implementations ... fedora has some old version half way working and suse has the kiwi port
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| 14:20 | <pingufan> I could puke. I will never touch this again. Is there a way to get the same functionality with installed CF-Card or HDD? I mean: Installing a local system which entirely connects to the host and works then identical?
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| 16:16 | <m4xx> morning all. i have an older disklessworkstation and i'm getting an hda-intel spurious response. I believe you guys helped me fix it a long time ago when i was working on an LTSP setup. anyone know/remember how to solve this by any chance?
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| 18:40 | <Hyperbyte> m4xx, hi
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| 18:40 | That's a warning generated from the onboard Intel HDA soundcards.
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| 18:40 | It's a driver error, or hardware error, either of those.
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| 18:41 | Every now and then there's an audible pop on the output, this causes the spurious response message. That, or vice-versa... the message causes the pop.
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| 18:41 | Either way, you can safely ignore the message. If you want the message to disappear and you don't use the onboard soundcard, you can blacklist the snd_hda_intel kernel module on the client.
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