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Channel log from 7 May 2009 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:25 | <X-TaZ> Hi. I'm experiencing great difficulties to gget DHCP working. I need to setup on with NIC it should use, but i can't find how to
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| 03:43 | <X-TaZ> I'm experiencing great difficulties to gget DHCP working. I need to setup on with NIC it should use, but i can't find how to. Any ideas ?
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| 04:39 | <X-TaZ> Hi people. Got a problem : On my new ltsp installation, I have " No response from server... Restarting" when i try to log in. Whats going on ?
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| 04:43 | <_Shane> Bad username or password can cause that.
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| 04:58 | <X-TaZ> _Shane, ty, it was a problem of ssh keys
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| 04:58 | I'm getting mad with ltsp-cluster :X
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| 06:48 | <yoshi_> question: can i get any problems if i upgrade my basis ltsp server from 8.10 ubuntu to 9.04
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| 07:12 | <pmatulis> yoshi_: are you having any trouble with 8.10?
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| 07:12 | <yoshi_> no not at all
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| 07:13 | everything is working fine except sabayon
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| 07:13 | <pmatulis> yoshi_: are there any features you need that 9.04 will give you?
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| 07:13 | <yoshi_> but that is a know bug
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| 07:13 | ext4 i thought
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| 07:13 | <ogra> yoshi_, follow the normal upgrade procedure for the server side (update-manager etc), move your old chroot out of the way and run an ltsp-build-client to create a new image
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| 07:14 | that should be all
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| 07:14 | ext4 is not stable enough that you should use it in production
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| 07:14 | <yoshi_> so the new chroot env has a new kernel with better hw support correct ?
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| 07:15 | <ogra> that and it has changes that only apply at build time of the image ... which is why you should rebuilt it
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| 07:15 | <yoshi_> ok nice
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| 07:16 | its because i read some problems with graphics if upgrading
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| 07:16 | <ogra> the intel driver has some issues
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| 07:16 | <yoshi_> but thats fixable ?
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| 07:16 | <ogra> its listed somewhere in the release notes
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| 07:16 | it mainly manifests after suspend/resume on laptops
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| 07:17 | and you might have slowness issues with compiz
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| 07:17 | the first isnt really relevant on thin clients :)
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| 07:17 | <yoshi_> ltsp is great but what is really misses is something like sabayon or the functionalitity to easy manage preferences for users en policies and priviliges
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| 07:17 | <ogra> and the second only if you plan to enforce using compiz
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| 07:17 | <yoshi_> i disabled compiz for use on thin clients
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| 07:17 | so that doesn't matter
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| 07:17 | <ogra> then it should be fine ...
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| 07:18 | <yoshi_> o we got another question dough:
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| 07:18 | <ogra> just keep your old chroot and img around ... then you can revert easily
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| 07:18 | <yoshi_> currently we are building implementation for use in a school with 140 computers
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| 07:19 | and running flash firefox and some other programs locally
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| 07:19 | <yoshi_> but we want to replace the big boxes
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| 07:19 | with small clients
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| 07:19 | <ogra> how small ?
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| 07:19 | <yoshi_> wich thin client you propose for running apps also localy
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| 07:19 | i was lookin into wyse terminals
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| 07:20 | or building ourselfs with atom matx boards maybe
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| 07:20 | <ogra> using localapps with less than 256M and 500MHz wont work well (i would even recommend 512M and 1GHz)
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| 07:20 | <yoshi_> 1ghz at least yes
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| 07:20 | <ogra> right, ATOM boxes will be fine
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| 07:20 | just put enough ram in
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| 07:20 | <yoshi_> well than i was thinking on these EE pc's from asus
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| 07:21 | but seems there are problems also with it
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| 07:21 | <ogra> they will be perfectly fine
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| 07:22 | <yoshi_> Asus Nettop Eee Box B202
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| 07:22 | something like this works fine with ltsp ?
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| 07:23 | <ogra> i have no experience with them but i would expect them to work fine
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| 07:23 | <yoshi_> ok we will order one to test it :)
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| 07:23 | <ogra> i know there are a bunch of people that use EEEs (though not the nettops) with ltsp
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| 07:23 | <yoshi_> thank ogra for the help already :)
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| 07:24 | <ogra> and if you look at disklessworkstations.com you will see that their main procudt has similar specs ...
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| 07:24 | <ogra> and i know _UsUrPeR_ did a lot of testing with it
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| 07:24 | so that should work with jaunty
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| 07:24 | * _UsUrPeR_ 's ears are burning | |
| 07:25 | <yoshi_> i notice them
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| 07:25 | the one with the atom cpu
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| 07:25 | and the via cpu
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| 07:25 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, you guys really need to get rid of these e1000's
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| 07:26 | <yoshi_> the smartcard reader is also a nice feature
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| 07:26 | * ogra assumes the support costs these generate smart out the money you can make by selling them | |
| 07:26 | <yoshi_> anyone has experiance with that ? so if a user puts in his smartcard he gets logged into his desktop
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| 07:27 | <ogra> no, ldm is missing support for it yet
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| 07:27 | you can probably hack something up for it though
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| 07:27 | <Bushmills> yoshi_, compare the eeepc and the acer aspire one, also a netbook, about same specs. much better screen, at least compared to older eeepcs. i don't know about the most recents ones, whether they come with improved displays
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| 07:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: believe me, we're trying to :)
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| 07:28 | <ogra> heh
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| 07:28 | Bushmills, well, he was talking about nettops, not netbooks :) the former usually come without displays
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| 07:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> fwiw, I have heard that they will run win98 off a flash drive... competantly
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| 07:28 | <Bushmills> (and the aspire have 2 smart card readers. one for permanent flash extension, the other as removable storage
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| 07:29 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, i run mine as a router (jammcq gave me one years ago) ...
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| 07:29 | <Bushmills> oh, sry
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| 07:29 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, it takes 4mins to boot to a cmdline
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| 07:29 | (from CF card)
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| 07:29 | <yoshi_> Bushmills: thanks but i was indeed in the need for nettops and not books :)
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| 07:29 | <ogra> works fine for the purpose once its up though
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| 07:30 | <_UsUrPeR_> Yeah, we tend to point people looking for text-based terminals towardf those
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| 07:30 | <ogra> single app kiosk setups could also work
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| 07:31 | i know jim used them for database form apps
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| 07:32 | <Bushmills> yoshi_ do you know about the ndiyo slim client?
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| 07:32 | aka thin client
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| 07:33 | <yoshi_> nope
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| 07:33 | <Bushmills> http://www.ndiyo.org/systems looked interesting, a while back.
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| 07:34 | <yoshi_> oo yes i read about that
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| 07:34 | but it's again a solution build on top of the already free solutions :)
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| 07:35 | if ltsp keep evolving it will becom a nice alternative of terminal services
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| 07:35 | and also very usefull in the coorperate enviroment
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| 07:35 | i believe
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| 07:41 | <Bushmills> here's a video which does away with the thin client altogether: http://www.ndiyo.org/files/hubster/hubster.mp4
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| 07:44 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: so what makes you say we need to get rid of those?
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| 07:46 | <yoshi_> bushmills that is a good solution in a computer lab or so but not for us because we need to go over ip
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| 07:55 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, they are simply to underpowered
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| 07:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: preaching to the quire ;)
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| 08:20 | * Bushmills runs an atom N270 in the mainly used machine, and disagrees with "underpowered" | |
| 08:21 | <Bushmills> they may not be good for all tasks. video encoding is slower than real time, for example.
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| 08:25 | <ogra> Bushmills, we were talking about this one: http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/200110.html?id=95INuotB :)
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| 08:27 | <Bushmills> oh. my bad again.
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| 09:04 | <treyh> Good Morning
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| 09:05 | Gadi if you're around, upgrading to jaunty and install ltspfs worked very well
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> treyh: good to hear. worked very well = in ldm and rdesktop?
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| 09:07 | <treyh> yes sir
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| 09:07 | <Gadi> cool
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| 09:07 | cdrom and USB both?
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| 09:07 | <treyh> the only thing that it did that was weird
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| 09:07 | Gadi: yes
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| 09:08 | * Gadi awaits the "but" | |
| 09:08 | <Gadi> :)
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| 09:08 | <treyh> on the usb stick, after I removed it, it didn't remove the folder out of drives on ltsp
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| 09:08 | but no biggie
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| 09:08 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 09:08 | <treyh> I didn't try to duplicate it
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| 09:08 | or test it
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| 09:09 | but I will today if I get a chance to upgrade this customer's ltsp box
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> ok
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| 09:09 | thx
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| 09:09 | <treyh> np
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| 09:09 | <Gadi> devil's in the details
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| 09:09 | <treyh> i think most normal users wouldn't notice but teachers are extremly picky lol
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| 09:10 | <Gadi> well, dev's don't like the quirks either :)
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| 09:10 | usually speaks to something under the surface
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| 09:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> gadi/treyh: About the removal of mounted USB drives from the desktop, I had the same thing happen to me.
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| 09:11 | removing worked the second time around though
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| 09:11 | <Gadi> oh yeah? in ldm?
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| 09:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> ubuntu 9.04 in ldm, yes
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| 09:11 | <Gadi> hmm...
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| 09:11 | interesting...
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| 09:12 | <_UsUrPeR_> after a server reboot I tried again. It worked that time
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| 09:12 | * Gadi strokes long mythical grey beard | |
| 09:12 | <treyh> in ldm mine always removed
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| 09:12 | but in rdesktop it didn't
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| 09:13 | I'll double check today though hopefully, have a boring sales meeting this morning, about a phone system lol
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| 09:45 | <markit> hi, during boot clients spend a lot of time "populating /dev" and then with messages like "hdc no response, status 0x0A, resetting driver" and then the same for hdd. What am I doing wrong? this way it takes very long to boot (2 minutes)
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| 09:48 | (thin clients without local storage)
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| 09:53 | <Gadi> markit: is there a cdrom?
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| 09:53 | IDE cdrom
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| 09:53 | that is
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| 09:54 | if not, go into the BIOS and disable your IDE bus entirely
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| 09:54 | that may help
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| 09:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> I has anyone made a good writeup for ltsp-localapps implementation yet? With permanent natting and IP forward and everything?
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| 09:58 | * _UsUrPeR_ will embark on the project if it has not been done yet | |
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| 09:59 | <markit> Gadi: mmm it has no cdrom either.. so no fancy parameter on ltsp side?
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| 10:04 | thanks a lot, I've to run
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| 10:10 | * _UsUrPeR_ considers the silence to be indicative of a negative response | |
| 10:10 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, I'm making a writeup :)
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| 10:11 | <ogra> _UsUrPeR_, stgrabers blog entry is all i know
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| 10:11 | <_UsUrPeR_> I'll be putting something in the ltsp twiki
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| 10:13 | <alkisg> _UsUrPeR_: NATting is explained there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT
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| 10:13 | <ogra> thats pretty outdated
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| 10:13 | there should be as doc based on ufw
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| 10:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> ogra: ufw?
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| 10:14 | <ogra> the firewall ubuntu ships by default
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| 10:14 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh
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| 10:14 | I'll try to integrate that
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| 10:15 | <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
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| 10:36 | <stgraber> ogra: yeah, LTSP spec approved by Rick
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| 11:05 | <_UsUrPeR_> what's normally used for scripting with LTSP if not bash? I want to change DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="DROP" to DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT" in /etc/default/ufw
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| 11:37 | * Lns wonders why 'petermatulis' has been editing the ubuntu ltsp wiki and breaking the formatting of the sections | |
| 11:38 | <Blinny> ...sabotage...
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| 11:38 | <Lns> heh
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| 11:38 | kind of futile, given the revision history of wikis.. =p
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| 11:39 | <Blinny> So is graffiti, given the ubiquity of more paint.
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| 11:41 | <Lns> you really think he was sabotaging?
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| 11:42 | looks like his intentions were good but he left it in a bad state
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| 11:43 | <cyberorg> ogra, tried compcache for the first time today, 64M VM client suddenly became very usable, including localapps xterm, localdev and sound :)
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| 11:47 | <fs001> hi all. I am using LTSP 5 in debian lenny. I cannot use pen drives in terminals. pls help.
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| 11:53 | <fs001> hi all. I am using LTSP 5 in debian lenny. I cannot use pen drives in terminals. pls help.
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| 11:53 | <cliebow> fs001, you might have to wait til you can talk to vagrantc
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| 11:53 | <Lns> fs001: have you read the documentation regarding setting up localdev ?
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| 11:54 | <cliebow> i am still in 4.2..so no..
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| 11:54 | <fs001> ya
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| 11:54 | <staffencasa> it's something like /localdev in the lts.conf file
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| 11:55 | <Gadi> fs001: you may need lenny-backports version of ltspfs/ltspfsd
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| 11:55 | <fs001> I have created lts.conf and added the line LOCALDEV=True
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| 11:55 | * Gadi seems to recall someone saying that here | |
| 11:55 | <cliebow> or Gadi might be a help 8~)
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| 11:55 | <Gadi> well, vagrantc would be the authority
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| 11:55 | :)
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| 11:55 | I am just relaying what I have heard in the channel
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| 11:57 | <Lns> fs001: are your users part of the 'fuse' group? (is that applicable to debian?)
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| 11:57 | <fs001> the user which I tried exists in fuse group
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| 11:58 | <Lns> fs001: have you checked the client's logs for clues?
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| 11:59 | <fs001> which log? /var/log/syslog in client?
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| 12:08 | <Lns> fs001: dmesg would probably have the info you need
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| 12:11 | <fs001> Lns: which log? /var/log/syslog in client?
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| 12:12 | <Lns> woah!
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| 12:12 | * Lns had no idea simply CTRL+Fn would switch ttys...always thought it was CTRL+ALT+Fn | |
| 12:13 | <Lns> At least when you're already on a text tty..
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| 12:13 | fs001: log into the TC text tty and type 'dmesg'
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| 12:28 | <Blinny> Lns: Don't you mean alt+Fn?
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| 12:28 | <Lns> Blinny: blrrrp..yes =p
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| 12:29 | * Lns glares at his not-finished-coffee | |
| 12:30 | <Lns> So weird, because i've always been in the habit of configuring my kb shortcuts to change wm workspaces w/Alt+Fn
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| 12:47 | <Ahmuck> firefox is crashing on ltsp clients
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| 12:48 | it's a problem
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| 12:48 | * _UsUrPeR_ touches that with a 40-foot pole | |
| 12:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahmuck: care to elaborate?
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| 12:49 | <Ahmuck> firefox is randomly crashing. happens with adobe flash more often
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| 12:51 | <_UsUrPeR_> Ahmuck: What environment are you running LTSP in? Also, tell me about your clients. What version of flash do you presently have installed?
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| 12:53 | <Ahmuck> ubuntu
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| 12:54 | latest flash
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| 12:54 | ubuntu 9.04
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| 13:03 | <Lns> Ahmuck: just FF crashing, or the whole TC session?
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| 13:05 | <Ahmuck> just firefox
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| 13:05 | upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 ltsp to ubuntu 9.04 ltsp
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| 13:05 | <Lns> Ahmuck: and only when using flash?
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| 13:06 | or "mostly" ?
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| 13:06 | <Ahmuck> on the clients. on the server it's fine, unless a client crashes, and then it appears to crashe all opened browsers
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| 13:06 | mostly. not entirely
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| 13:06 | <Lns> weird
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| 13:06 | * Lns remembers something about this in hardy a while back that had to do w/entropy, but was a different situation | |
| 13:07 | <Lns> Ahmuck: have you done the firefox optimizations described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Firefox3Optimize ?
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| 13:08 | Some of that "safe browsing" malarkey might be hosing stuff, i dunno..
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| 13:08 | Who knows what's broken in the global ff prefs in jaunty though, seems like every release something else doesn't work correctly there
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| 13:08 | * Lns curses not being able to easily set default homepage for everyone through firefox.js | |
| 13:15 | * Blinny curses not being able to set bidi.browser.ui through firefox.js | |
| 13:16 | * Blinny curses not being able to set persistent print_header* and print_footer* settings through firefox.js | |
| 13:16 | * Blinny curses firefox.js | |
| 13:16 | * Lns wonders if firefox-gnome-support could help these issues | |
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| 13:17 | <Blinny> ubufox or whatever is what is screwing w/ bidi.browser.ui
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| 13:17 | Lns: What do you mean re: firefox-gnome-support ?
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| 13:18 | <Lns> Blinny: well, at least if you use gnome, maybe firefox-gnome-support could incorporate some gconf magic to take care of what firefox.js barfs up on the floor
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| 13:19 | <Blinny> I'm ashamed to state that I've historically shunned gconf-editor
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| 13:22 | <Lns> You know, once you see the potential of it, it's really pretty nice to have. And it's definitely not anything like the windows registry/regedit - much, much simpler, cleaner, and extensible
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| 13:23 | Of course, I'd much rather have the FF team fix the bugs in their global configs,...
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| 13:23 | but I get the feeling from them that the code is so buried and scattered that it wouldn't be worth trying
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| 13:26 | <Blinny> *Nod*
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| 13:26 | Dude. Fiire is no more..??
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| 13:35 | <alkisg> Lns, sudo gedit /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/defaults/profile/user.js
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| 13:36 | and insert: user_pref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.google.com/");
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| 13:37 | <Lns> alkisg: that gets overwritten on every update, no?
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| 13:37 | <alkisg> No, that's prefs.js
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| 13:37 | I don't think user.js gets overwritten
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| 13:38 | <Lns> hrm, that might work then...have you done that w/success?
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| 13:40 | <alkisg> Works, but I'm not sure about the updates thing
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| 13:41 | <vagrantc> if "dpkg -S /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/defaults/profile/user.js" shows it belonging to a package, it'll get overwritten.
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| 13:42 | <alkisg> That file doesn't exists, it's user-created, but when firefox gets updated I don't know if it transfers it to the new firefox-3.0.x directory...
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| 13:42 | <Blinny> .../profile is a symlink to /etc/firefox-*
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| 13:44 | I don't think user.js works
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| 13:44 | <vagrantc> ah, if profile is a symlink to /etc/, you should be set.
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| 13:44 | <alkisg> I've just tried with the ubuntu guest session, it works for me.
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| 13:45 | <vagrantc> presuming it works, of course :)
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| 13:45 | <Blinny> Hrm. I've just tried and no worky for me :(
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| 13:45 | * alkisg has 9.04 | |
| 13:46 | * Blinny has 8.04.2 | |
| 13:46 | <Blinny> Damn.
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| 13:46 | <Lns> here's a weird question that's cropped up a few times in school environments..is there a way to lock down permissions for users so that they can't *change* them (i.e. to try and lock out other users who have permissions via acl or similar), regardless of whether they own the files or not?
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| 13:46 | <Blinny> alkisg: painful/less upgrade to 9.04 ?
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| 13:47 | Lns: you could always wrap chown
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| 13:47 | <alkisg> I've only tried upgrading once, from 7.10 to 8.04 (and it broke), ever since then I install from scratch
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| 13:47 | <Blinny> alkisg: Preserving /home or ..?
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| 13:48 | <alkisg> Yes, i've even made a small script to transfer the users
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| 13:48 | <Blinny> I'm more worried about some esoteric .local or .metacity or .gnome2 something that causes problems when suddenly loaded in Jaunty.
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| 13:49 | <Lns> Blinny: good idea. though i'm not sure if nautilus uses chown specifically
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| 13:49 | or chmod, etc
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| 13:49 | <alkisg> I got a small problem with the panels (the new fusa icon) so I had to call gconftool-2 for all users to erase the panel settings
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| 13:50 | *not with 9.04, that was with 8.10
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| 13:50 | *with 9.04 I don't think I had any problems with local user settings
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| 13:50 | <Lns> it'd be cool if gnome/gconf was smart enough to detect a (drastic) version change and automatically back up previous settings
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| 13:51 | or ask the user "do you want to attempt to update your current settings, or start over?"
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| 13:51 | <alkisg> Here's a one-liner to change the start page, that works for me: echo 'user_pref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.google.gr/");' | sudo tee /etc/firefox-*/profile/user.js
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| 13:52 | <Lns> alkisg: nice, thanks =)
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| 13:52 | <alkisg> But it's a "default" setting, not a mandatory one
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| 13:53 | <Lns> alkisg: sure...you could probably change that w/ 'user_lockPref' or whichever is correct, right?
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| 13:53 | <alkisg> Is there such a thing? /me looks...
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| 13:53 | <Lns> yep
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| 13:54 | * Lns isn't sure if lockPref is available in all config files though | |
| 13:54 | <Lns> anyway i'm out to save the world by installing a soundcard in the ltsp server so kids can hear sound through rdesktop. =p
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| 13:54 | crazy ms tactics
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| 13:55 | <treyh> Lns: you tried using local sound?
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| 13:55 | <Lns> treyh: whta do you mean?
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| 13:56 | <treyh> Lns: on the rdesktop command add -r sound:local:alsa
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| 13:56 | I believe it uses local sound on the client to be redirected to rdesktop
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| 13:56 | <Lns> treyh: i've done '-r sound:local' -- is sound:local:alsa supposed to emulate a sound card in windows? the windows apps themselves seem to require a sound card/driver to work
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| 13:57 | treyh: i think you need both an audio chipset and the '-r sound:local'
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| 13:58 | <treyh> if the client has audio hardware, it should work
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| 13:58 | <Lns> treyh: hmm. are you sure?
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| 13:58 | <treyh> all my clients are rdesktoping into a TS on vmware that has no sound card
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| 13:59 | <Lns> hmm, that's my setup too.
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| 13:59 | how does adding :alsa (i've seen :oss too) change things? I wrap my rdesktop command w/padsp
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| 14:00 | Well i'll test it while i'm out there..thanks for the tip treyh =)
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| 14:00 | <treyh> lns: I think just sound:local tries to automatically specific a driver
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| 14:00 | using alsa or oss specifies which to use
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| 14:00 | but remember
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| 14:00 | the client, must have working sound hardware
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| 14:01 | Lns: no problem, let me know if it doesn't work
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| 14:10 | Lns: if you're still around, forgot to tell you to also add this to lts.conf
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| 14:10 | SOUND = false
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| 14:19 | * alkisg just tried putting lockPref("browser.startup.homepage", "http://www.alkisg.com/"); in /etc/firefox-*/prefs/user.js (that's a different location - lockPref didn't work in ../profile) and it worked fine, now all users have a locked homepage!!! :) | |
| 14:20 | <alkisg> Lns, Blinny, ^^^
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| 14:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey guys
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| 14:29 | I'm having a problem with sed
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| 14:29 | !pastebot
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| 14:29 | <ltspbot> _UsUrPeR_: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 14:30 | <ltsppbot> "_UsUrPeR_" pasted "need sed help" (4 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/329
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| 14:32 | <_UsUrPeR_> woop, wait. I got that. needed a few escape characters.
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| 14:33 | namely: sed 's/\#net\/ipv4\/ip_forward=1/net\/ipv4\/ip_forward=1/' ~/sysctl.conf.old > ~/sysctl.conf
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| 14:33 | unfortunately, it prints a blank file
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| 14:38 | never mind, I got it
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| 14:44 | <Blinny> alkisg: No worky for me :( -- must be a Jaunty thing
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| 15:17 | <_UsUrPeR_> goldeneyes: most in here speak english
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| 15:19 | <Goldeneyes> wondered if some of you implemented LTSP to run multimedia applications much like French classes
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| 15:33 | <treyh> you mean like videos
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| 15:33 | ?
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| 15:33 | Goldeneyes: like an application that will teach French Class?
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| 15:35 | <Goldeneyes> treyh yes videos and sound
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| 15:36 | <epsas> maybe Rosetta under WINE?
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| 15:36 | <Goldeneyes> treyh: Yes will teach frensch class
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| 15:40 | I already have the application but this is for Windows, what I want is to implement a laboratory with 25 terminals and running this application, multimedia (video and sound), but my question is whether the performance of LTSP handle or have much traffic on the network
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| 15:42 | <_UsUrPeR_> someone mind reviewing my ufw tables to tell me why localapps is not working properly?
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| 15:42 | <ltsppbot> "_UsUrPeR_" pasted "Little help with ufw? \O_o/" (75 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/330
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| 15:47 | <treyh> Goldeneyes: best way is to try to run the application under wine and see how it performs
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| 15:49 | _UsUrPeR_: I would but haven't dove into ufw yet
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| 15:49 | <_UsUrPeR_> I'm trying to make it so you'll never have to :)
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| 15:49 | <treyh> _UsUrPeR_: perfect lol
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| 15:50 | I'm actually very familiar with firewalls, spend a lot of time with openbsd's packet filter and freebsd's IPF
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| 15:51 | but ipchains I've never read upon
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| 15:52 | it's weird to me how you enable commands but they aren't saved unless you put them in a file
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| 16:00 | * _UsUrPeR_ is out fo thu weekend | |
| 16:00 | <_UsUrPeR_> woo!
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| 16:25 | <jhaig|home> Hi. Someone was helping me yesterday with getting a graphics on a client working. I now have it working (I changed the old CRT screen for a newer flatscreen). Now, when I move the mouse I get lines (looks like interference) across the screen. I tried using the tool in Ubuntu to detect the monitor but it says it is unknown. Can anyone help?
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| 16:53 | <jhaig|home> I'll try again some other time. Bye.,
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| 18:06 | <treyh> LNS you around?
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| 18:06 | Lns: you around?
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| 18:18 | <Lns> treyh: yo
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| 18:18 | just got back
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| 18:32 | treyh: sound=false would help how?
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| 18:33 | It works fine for me - all my thin clients have sound chipsets. using '-r sound:local' OR '-r sound:local:oss' seems to work fine... I just took oss out
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| 18:33 | I had no idea rdesktop could redirect so many things, pretty nifty
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| 18:37 | <Lns> Anyone know if you can disable sound in Ubuntu LTSP for specific users only?
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| 18:37 | It looks lke the whole 'audio' group thing is depreciated as none of the users are a member but all still get sound on the TC
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